to all ppl that PMd me for dupe methods

06/23/2009 14:41 Archking#46
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Originally Posted by Stonedseller View Post
maybe i should write here "one" of the easiest ways of duping, after that i promise the game is going down with much more scammers than before etc.... its that what all of u want?

ummm............. yes pls? pm it to me ill even give u 3 accs for the method.
06/23/2009 14:50 Creme.egg#47
lol no don't give out dupes.
At least with a price like 100Euros, little kids can't afford it :O
06/23/2009 14:50 Creme.egg#48
EDIT: sorry for double post. Had a lag with a few archlord open xD
06/23/2009 19:03 Newbb#49
my opinion in this since ive been looking for a long while for it:

A dupe isnt dangerous in the hand of the right person, and what i mean by that:
If u use the dupe to dupe items witch u normaly wouldnt buy, and dont bring on the market it wont make a difference, but as soon as u start rolling them in the economy, then it will affect prices, and therefor making other ppl go poorer, unless u put loads of stones on ah wich will lower the price(and deleting the gold u get from selling them) its a good thing since prices(especialy cc and reinf) went trough the roof.

When i left reinfs were bout 150k ea, now there 700k ea(and i had bout 800 of em left)
same for cc, when i left cc was bout 20m for 1k and now, about 150-200m for 1k, and u can tell me all u want, its becouse of the gold coin dupe(wich i tried, just curious if it worked or not).
But if the dupers thought about it carefully they would have done it like i mentioned above, imo.

anny comments?
Would be lovely to awnser them.
06/23/2009 19:15 Salami-aeros#50
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Originally Posted by Fir3andIc3 View Post
Gold looses only value because players set a high value for uniques not a duper! It's your own fault when you buy RMT Gold and buy ingame cc for 200mil 1kcc!
RMT gold is also made by dupe , the problem here thats destroys the economy is the dupe , if RMTers where working with farmbots , the problerm would be 10 times , and once more u dont have a clue how economy works ...

And for the guy posted above , duping only stones and not gold coins would bring an much more smaller problem in economy , stoned prices would be very low depending others item value , so there would be no reason farm them , and the farmers would not make money ( always depending on the gold every other item would need )

ps and selling massively that hack just destroys the game .

Point is duping gold is like cheating all players who play the game , duping only stones is like cheating all those who farm stones . Anyway it goes against other player .. and it does have a defference if the duping is made from RMTers to sell it in site wich cause even biger problems and duping for own purpose ... but both affect all other players by negative ways .
06/23/2009 19:50 Newbb#51
well salami, then we have a different oppinion,

The only way it will NOT affect the economy if u use it for ur own purpose(refering to the part in my Post above)

and for the stones concern, eventualy all players will bennefit from the lower prices(now players get more for there stones wich is needed couse prices are high) when the offer becomes higher and the demand stays the same, all prices will drop, and then u dont need that much money..

more items=ur items going down in price=all items going down in price=no need to have so mutch gold.

And to be clear: Im 100% against duping coins or bringing other valuables to the ige.
06/24/2009 07:45 Panthergr#52
The thing is that most of us come down to one clue.Duping destroys the game. Haven't seen any comment from the inventor of the dupe still and i'm just curius what he has to say.I also see people with 0 feedback all suddenly know about the dupe and allready gone to market cheack some threads.
So dupe hack is sold undercover i supose even we like it or not and we know who is behind this.
Also about Fir3andIc3 i will not make any comment for.It'sn obviuss that the guy understands and want to keep rolling or either he is too young to understand.
In any way the guy that sells the dupe hack don't think he will ask or even investigate his buyer or check an id or something when it comes down to dollars. Sell your hack and go for hollidays...What will you do next year? Let me know which game you will hit for hollidays money. The game has still a buissness going on with real $$ it's never late to stop duping or selling the dupe. If you totally destroy the game you along destroy the small market thats going on Archlord virtual items. Take it a 3rd thought.
06/24/2009 09:12 Newbb#53
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Originally Posted by Panthergr View Post
.I also see people with 0 feedback all suddenly know about the dupe and allready gone to market cheack some threads.
guess u reffering to me, well for that, ive been around longer.
and i try to help out where i can.

and only way to stabilaze economy now is by mass duping stones and reinf pots.. and the dupers should delete there money(since no one wants more igg)
06/24/2009 12:01 Panthergr#54
guess your joking now cause if you don't maybe you are form another planet. Lets say warhammer planet. The only realistic way is to stop duping at all. Economy will stabilize this way. Stones fail month by month they dissapear.i'm wondering what will hapen with uniques.
06/24/2009 13:05 Navar#55
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Originally Posted by Fir3andIc3 View Post
I think you missunderstand! Noone Lags the Server LMFAO! Noone can Lag the Server! The Server can only Lag by it self!
I agree with you that hrhrhr should never release this for Public! But dupers don't destroy the Game! Did you ever see that CM sells Att Prayer in AH for 5 Mil? Or Phys Res 3? Or Elemental Stones? I think not! Or why do you think the Prices for CC are so high in Game? Everything is fking expansive and so CC is! What if you buy 200 Att Prayer Stones and sell them for 5 Mil each? What if 100 or maybe 1000 ppl do the same? Everything will be cheaper and also more Players will maybe Play and more Players will buy CC and sell it ingame for lower Prices.

Don't tell me you never cryed about economy in game.. expansive bla bla cc price 150 mil 1k cc bla bla bla.... Not CM can fix that but the Dupers can!
LOEL!

u think this is the reason for high cc prices???

just think about it, or i tell u. that doesnt take so much time. U dupe the normal players. they loose alot of money and quit the game.
Steal the money of 100 players and 100 will leave the game.
than u are alone on the servers with all ur dupes and hacks. noone is there who sells cc. and if someone sells, its very expensive, because its rare.

Learn 2 Reallife
06/24/2009 13:08 harharhar the 15th...#56
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Originally Posted by EmmeTheCoder View Post
@Pantergr & Salama-aeros
Sure, I agree with you both. The reason why this game goes down, is because all he cheating and hacking going on. There have been a enourmous amount of people who wanted me to share how to dupe or exploit the games, but no, I wont share it, nor will I use it. I often ask one question when they want me to give them somthing - 'why?' - and they reply saying the game is shit and they need to, because they don't want to waste their money on the game, then I'll most likely reply - 'If you use it, that will ruin the game even more' - and they go saying that it won't affect the game if only they use it, but they don't realise that 1+1 = 2, and 2+2 = 4, etc etc. Soon enough tons of people will do it..

We just need to think before we do actions, and keep the hack into ourselfs and don't use it. This game could be an awesome game if people just stick to the rules.


-Emme
totally agreed, however im just done with it all and tryin to make some profit out of it... ive kept it secret long enuff...

and for others: good dupers are the ones ull never hear off...
06/24/2009 13:11 harharhar the 15th...#57
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Originally Posted by Newbb View Post
well salami, then we have a different oppinion,

The only way it will NOT affect the economy if u use it for ur own purpose(refering to the part in my Post above)

and for the stones concern, eventualy all players will bennefit from the lower prices(now players get more for there stones wich is needed couse prices are high) when the offer becomes higher and the demand stays the same, all prices will drop, and then u dont need that much money..

more items=ur items going down in price=all items going down in price=no need to have so mutch gold.

And to be clear: Im 100% against duping coins or bringing other valuables to the ige.
its simple, it are the duped gold coins that fckd the economy... if CM would remove those, not only will price for cc drop mentally insane, also the price of stones will highly decrease and end up like ep2 in the winter of january 2008 when the average price for lv3 stones used to be 500k and cc 10 mill..
06/24/2009 14:46 Newbb#58
thats what i mean,

but guess, removing them aint gonna happen, so manny trades, the gold is widly spread troughout the game.

and there are 2 ways to balance the economy again(lets say there has been made 100% of old money)

U double amount of items in game.
Or u remove 100% of the old money.
now this topic is about economics, in wich would u guys invest atm?stones?items?cc?
06/24/2009 15:06 harharhar the 15th...#59
id say remove gold coins and all gold on the server would help bring back a reasonable economy...
however i havent duped for a year by now, and tbh, im still doin pretty well... even with the teared up economy...
and stones arent that expensive...
06/24/2009 15:22 Fir3andIc3#60
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Originally Posted by Navar View Post
LOEL!

u think this is the reason for high cc prices???

just think about it, or i tell u. that doesnt take so much time. U dupe the normal players. they loose alot of money and quit the game.
Steal the money of 100 players and 100 will leave the game.
than u are alone on the servers with all ur dupes and hacks. noone is there who sells cc. and if someone sells, its very expensive, because its rare.

Learn 2 Reallife

A duper steals gold from Players? oO Dupers go into your Account and take all your gold or what?? Why they loose gold?

The truth is that dupers dupe since ep1! Was the economy better befor EP3 or not?
The economy is fk up not bc of dupers but bc of the shit Cm company that can't bring out Patches to stop f.e. Glitching!
With all the bugs in game it's just normal that 1,2, 10 ,1000 ppl find some new/old Bug with time and scam other ppl!

I never hear that dupers scammed someone in EP1 or EP2! Also economy was ok in EP1 and EP2 with all the dupers... so what excuse now?

So i would say "BUG USER" and not the "OLD DUPER" fk this Game up!