[Discussion]Emulation

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05/05/2012 20:13 paxemuman#46
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Originally Posted by ermvrs View Post
i said it already i make extensions as same as plugin system. Also i make it free. peoples dont need to pay it. i will talk with ufonese and lyzerk. Maybe if they accept i will make a pro team to dev a best emu. thx for ur comment :)
np ;) good luck.

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Originally Posted by mertcoskun View Post
You drunk? you compare your shitty v.basic emulation with the OFFICIAL FILES? Really you have to take psychological support dude...
Yes i compare those things:
emulator pluses:
-can be easily customized
-easy to use
-low requirements
-you can have fun on EASY coding and checking your own UNIQUE stuff.
- Emulator are for REAL FANS of the game who wont make money, who want just some fun and easy way to make your own things, without coding, without debuggers, just by scripts. Thats why emulator will be always better for normal peoples.

My emulator can run on 500mhz and 256 RAM try beat that with vsro files.
05/05/2012 20:18 vorosmihaly#47
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Originally Posted by paxemuman View Post
np ;) good luck.


Yes i compare those things:
emulator pluses:
-can be easily customized
-easy to use
-low requirements
-you can have fun on EASY coding and checking your own UNIQUE stuff.
- Emulator are for REAL FANS of the game who wont make money, who want just some fun and easy way to make your own things, without coding, without debuggers, just by scripts. Thats why emulator will be always better for normal peoples.

My emulator can run on 500mhz and 256 RAM try beat that with vsro files.
yeah,but your emulator sucks ballz anyway,so I'm not surprised xDD
05/05/2012 20:20 ermvrs#48
im doubt on vsro or another server's source release :(
05/05/2012 20:22 Getzabelz#49
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Originally Posted by paxemuman View Post
np ;) good luck.


Yes i compare those things:
emulator pluses:
-can be easily customized
-easy to use
-low requirements
-you can have fun on EASY coding and checking your own UNIQUE stuff.
- Emulator are for REAL FANS of the game who wont make money, who want just some fun and easy way to make your own things, without coding, without debuggers, just by scripts. Thats why emulator will be always better for normal peoples.

My emulator can run on 500mhz and 256 RAM try beat that with vsro files.
Can run in low end machine yea, but how much people It can handle at same time without any retard? And does It got the exact same functionalities as any vsro server?

Just saying, we cannot compare emulators to any files. Emulators has their good stuff and files too. They are different things and shouldn't be compared, at least when emulators are this basic.
05/05/2012 20:26 Kamisuro_x#50
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Originally Posted by paxemuman View Post
Bulshit, you have no chances to do anything.

Only lyzerk,Me,Ufonose have enought expirience in sro emulaton to keep developing a real emulator, i doubt about ufonose or lyzerk will help you.

I have in plans OPEN SOURCE DLL EXTENSIONS which will let you make new functions so basically you will be able to make your own patches for SSE.

Only core and some functions will be not available for edit, to prevent peoples to claim whole work as thier. Also dll extensions have other pluses, you can make a patch without sharing source (thats something new and nice because peoples can compete and create own patch projects) by this way peoples will work on they own projects but anyway they will make whole emulator better(closed source,open source it doesn't matter).

Problem is i have still lack of money for development.

Peoples invest money in hosting vsro shit instead of invest time and money in emulation which is more fun.
To the red lines, there are surely more people in the sro scene that can do more as you, what you did in ~3 or 4 years?Almost nothing.
I know what you mean, but to let you know :)
If you may know Stratti he was once developing "NDSRO"(It was not public) He had 150clientless chars connected that were attacking 1mob without any crash, range/teleport crash.

It was on the start the files are more advanced already, but it's not worth to development a emulator since the files are public.
05/05/2012 20:28 paxemuman#51
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Originally Posted by vorosmihaly View Post
yeah,but your emulator sucks ballz anyway,so I'm not surprised xDD
Its your opinion, many peoples thinks different.
Many vsro servers grabbed soul reborn idea from my emu. Also i have made huge progress sience last cracked version(include statuses). If you made better emulator show it. It will looks better if you will show something, otherwise i willl say your'e jelous :)

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Originally Posted by Getzabelz View Post
Can run in low end machine yea, but how much people It can handle at same time without any retard? And does It got the exact same functionalities as any vsro server?

Just saying, we cannot compare emulators to any files. Emulators has their good stuff and files too. They are different things and shouldn't be compared, at least when emulators are this basic.
Yes they are different things and there is no competition between them, it depends on proposes what files you choose. If you want make professional server you have to use vsro.

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Originally Posted by Kamisuro_x View Post
To the red lines, there are surely more people in the sro scene that can do more as you, what you did in ~3 or 4 years?Almost nothing.
I know what you mean, but to let you know :)
If you may know Stratti he was once developing "NDSRO"(It was not public) He had 150clientless chars connected that were attacking 1mob without any crash, range/teleport crash.
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Stratti was my sponsor later he bought source from lyzerk, he didnt created it from zero. Also clientles wont show you real player behavior, that tests are pointless. Also last thing is stratti never opened a server for open beta proposes.
05/05/2012 20:35 vorosmihaly#52
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Originally Posted by paxemuman View Post
Its your opinion, many peoples thinks different.
Many vsro servers grabbed soul reborn idea from my emu. Also i have made huge progress sience last cracked version(include statuses). If you made better emulator show it. It will looks better if you will show something, otherwise i willl say your'e jelous :)
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Actually,I do have my own emulator,but I haven't been working on it for 4 years or what,it's been only a few weeks,but it'll surely be better than that crap..the only advantage of it is the stability,nothing else.owh..and at least I'm not asking for money for "developing" crap,huh?..
05/05/2012 20:42 Kamisuro_x#53
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Originally Posted by paxemuman View Post
Stratti was my sponsor later he bought source from lyzerk, he didnt created it from zero. Also clientles wont show you real player behavior, that tests are pointless. Also last thing is stratti never opened a server for open beta proposes.
Yes, he edited the source of arcane first, than he made his own emulator not based on arcane, you can ask him aswell. About the clientless thing, it's pointless only if you are not going with a client online to test the range spawn/teleporting to the chars while they are walking, attacking or anything else.
05/05/2012 20:42 Stratti#54
So, why arent we working together already? Instead of "fighting" we could work together in a big project and share our knowledge. I'm sure after hard and long work we could reach some great results. But nevermind, I think that's only a dream, this will probably never happen.
Anyways it would be great..
05/05/2012 21:02 paxemuman#55
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Originally Posted by Stratti View Post
So, why arent we working together already? Instead of "fighting" we could work together in a big project and share our knowledge. I'm sure after hard and long work we could reach some great results. But nevermind, I think that's only a dream, this will probably never happen.
Anyways it would be great..
When you will read post's up (especially my post about dlls) you will understand that i am going to let everyone code toghether. Also beginners will get help on forum about everything. There have to be structure for everything you can't just say "now peoples let's CODE emulator!".

Currently i am only person who can make this because Ufonose gave up(we are owners of 2 best sro emulators).

It's not about my project, its about fun of making something. Its worth to try to show peoples about creation it's more fun than hosting.
05/05/2012 21:09 Stratti#56
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Originally Posted by paxemuman View Post
When you will read post's up (especially my post about dlls) you will understand that i am going to let everyone code toghether. Also beginners will get help on forum about everything. There have to be structure for everything you can't just say "now peoples let's CODE emulator!".

Currently i am only person who can make this because Ufonose gave up(we are owners of 2 best sro emulators).

It's not about my project, its about fun of making something. Its worth to try to show peoples about creation it's more fun than hosting.
Are you sure that ufonose (ok he gave up) and you are the only one who could lead such a project? Ok I agree with you that we need someone who will organize everything. And I dont care about hosting neither, I just want to learn from coding an emulator, and yeah it's fun too.
05/05/2012 21:14 vorosmihaly#57
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Originally Posted by paxemuman View Post
When you will read post's up (especially my post about dlls) you will understand that i am going to let everyone code toghether. Also beginners will get help on forum about everything. There have to be structure for everything you can't just say "now peoples let's CODE emulator!".

Currently i am only person who can make this because Ufonose gave up(we are owners of 2 best sro emulators).

It's not about my project, its about fun of making something. Its worth to try to show peoples about creation it's more fun than hosting.
heh,you're making me laugh a lot :DD
you just think you're better than you actually are,at least,that's my personal opinion..there are many people here,in this forum who could do that,though.
05/05/2012 21:18 paxemuman#58
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Originally Posted by Stratti View Post
Are you sure that ufonose and you are the only one who could lead such a project? Ok I agree with you that we need someone who will organize everything. And I dont care about hosting neither, I just want to learn from coding an emulator, and yeah it's fun too.
Time will show how will be.
05/05/2012 21:28 Veteran1337#59
I dont get what's the problem of the silkroad community, did you saw other games?They got emulations that are better as the files. Silkroad could reach the same, but not with such people like pax. If everyone is like you, there will be never a open source of silkroad(what will probably never happen).
You sound like "Oh I'm one of the best silkroad coder" who cares?If you want to work in a team it does not matter who is the best, cause if you want to show you are the best in the team, you will continue alone, that's how it will end...
05/05/2012 21:55 paxemuman#60
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Originally Posted by Veteran1337 View Post
I dont get what's the problem of the silkroad community, did you saw other games?They got emulations that are better as the files. Silkroad could reach the same, but not with such people like pax.
Ive never prevent people from making thier own emulators. Look what i am doing now, i am planing how to share my source with peoples and you saying about i am bad? wtf is wrong with you and with this community, i can understand vorosmihaly because he is clearly jelous but you ?

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Originally Posted by Veteran1337 View Post
If everyone is like you, there will be never a open source of silkroad(what will probably never happen).
If everyone would be like me than emulator would be done many years ago. I have relased my old source which was perfect for starting development but noone uses it(peoples are too lazy).

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Originally Posted by Veteran1337 View Post
You sound like "Oh I'm one of the best silkroad coder" who cares?If you want to work in a team it does not matter who is the best, cause if you want to show you are the best in the team, you will continue alone, that's how it will end...
I will tell you how looks that teams in sro, one person work rest leeching. Thats why sro emulators mostly fails.

I thinked some time about answering to you , after a while i decided to answer because i saw you register date, i am amazed that you who should know some more about me is talking such a bulshits. I am not going to repeat over and over again how much i have done for sro community because i know that peoples have a memory of goldfish .
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