Cracked client for TrueClassic.

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Originally Posted by AcF I dont respect botters on a private server.

I don't respect people that call themselves developers or coders and name there servers trueclassic when they are nothing more then tq binarys and a 2.0 client edited :rolleyes:. Any fool can put up a binary server they go up everyday by more kids that have no clue wtf there doing and they usually fail shortly after launch.

That is no better then TQ's idea of classic which is far from. If your going to make a classic server then develope it the right way with a real source and a true 1.0 client.:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by BaussHacker Love2Hate and True Classic has NOTHING to do with each other.

No shit, Sherlock, thanks for the pointless tidbit. I only bring up Love2Hate because you did, not because of any association with True Classic.

I'm just noting that the hacks posted for True Classic such as the one in [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] ALSO work on love2hate including the composition bug, aimbot etc without any modification. So the appeal of "play at love2hate less hackers!" is gone.

I also noted the player base on that server is pathetically low (15% of True Classics on average) while the ping is quite high even for Europeans (your server is based in Europe). Therefore your suggestion to "just play at love2hate" really doesn't look appealing at all when it currently seems inferior to True Classic in every way. Could change in the future but as of right now TC is the only "classic" server worth playing, even if it is a 2.0 binary server.

But have yet to produce anything closer. I'm not really on anyone's side here, I'm just a player(among many) searching for a quality classic server. And they all get trashed for not being classic enough, or DDOS'd to oblivion or targeted by people who make it their goal to crack every patch. Everyone downplays how the 'classic' private servers aren't 1.0 enough, all while failing to produce a server closer to 1.0, themselves. It really sucks to be an old school conquer player right now.

But hey all of this was said in my previous posts you quoted. :rolleyes: so to those who comprehended it the first time, I apologize for the redundancy.

TC is shutting down August 7. Supposedly. I call bullshit but if it is, your entire essay you just wrote has no point at all.

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Originally Posted by Yup Stigs TC is shutting down August 7. Supposedly. I call bullshit but if it is, your entire essay you just wrote has no point at all.

It's really unsurprising that yet another pseudo-1.0 server would shut down. Although I am curious what lead you to believe that. But regardless of True Classic's existance the point is every 'classic' server sucks. Including the ones recommended in the thread. Hopefully the KylinCO source changes that.

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Originally Posted by Yup Stigs TC is shutting down August 7. Supposedly. I call bullshit but if it is, your entire essay you just wrote has no point at all.

Yeah, the owner told 2 other people I know that.

@BoredPlayer - L2H has only been a server for 3 weeks, and I hadn't joined their team until about a week ago. Look how far we've come since then compared to TC. We've also been getting DDoSed by TC, which is understandable, and not really a problem. Thanks for the advice about Coop; it won't work on the next update. There really aren't any classic p-servers worth a shit, and you know why? Because there aren't any public 1.0 sources worth a shit, and no one can/wants to spend time making a great server. That's the sad truth, but hopefully we'll change that.

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Originally Posted by BoredPlayer1 No shit, Sherlock, thanks for the pointless tidbit. I only bring up Love2Hate because you did, not because of any association with True Classic. I'm just noting that the hacks posted for True Classic such as the one in [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] ALSO work on love2hate including the composition bug, aimbot etc without any modification. So the appeal of "play at love2hate less hackers!" is gone. I also noted the player base on that server is pathetically low (15% of True Classics on average) while the ping is quite high even for Europeans (your server is based in Europe). Therefore your suggestion to "just play at love2hate" really doesn't look appealing at all when it currently seems inferior to True Classic in every way. Could change in the future but as of right now TC is the only "classic" server worth playing, even if it is a 2.0 binary server. But have yet to produce anything closer. I'm not really on anyone's side here, I'm just a player(among many) searching for a quality classic server. And they all get trashed for not being classic enough, or DDOS'd to oblivion or targeted by people who make it their goal to crack every patch. Everyone downplays how the 'classic' private servers aren't 1.0 enough, all while failing to produce a server closer to 1.0, themselves. It really sucks to be an old school conquer player right now. But hey all of this was said in my previous posts you quoted. :rolleyes: so to those who comprehended it the first time, I apologize for the redundancy.

While I appreciate the; "common players" feedback- you should at least attempt to get your facts straight before 'downrating' our server (however I'm sure it wasn't your intention- merely 'true feedback' from your perspective).

All of said 'hacks' mentioned- are not usable on Love2Hate. Perhaps at one point while we were testing out different security methods but I assure you we take every precaution possible to derail any 'cheating' attempts.

I respect True Classic, their player base and what all of the 'devs' there have done to make it what it is. I just question their 'hosts' morales and the way they do things aside from server work. True classic is over a year old now? Love2Hate just over 2 weeks- and yet we have an average online player base of 50 players which is pretty cool.

I think it should be noted, that we are not trying to 'compete' with TrueClassic. All servers offer a unique experience in their own way. We are (I believe [but could be wrong])- the only EU "classic" server out there. Or at least we try to be as classic as we can be- without conforming to retarded standards (dropping 10k cps per mob or mirroring co 2.0.. Why??). TC is it's own game- and in its own league. We just take our own ideas, friends and hard work and try to offer an alternative european experience.

As far as the lag goes- we are only on a VPS at the moment and unfortunately have been subject to quite a few petty DDOS attacks for no reason. As fast as the VPS is, it's not going to be lag free with those kind of variables unfortunately. Dedicated hosting is expensive- and we simply don't have the funds, donations or player base to upgrade to such hosting yet.

The aim of L2H is simple. Give people a fun, retard-free gaming experience. Do I consider it a work of art? No. Do I think I'm some kind of elite coder? Heck no. Do I think it will be 'the most popular server in the world'.. Definitley not.. But, when all is said and done- the people like it. I like it- and it serves a perfect home to our player base until we have time to work on our C# source.

To each their own- and good luck finding a server that suits you.

-Jan

And really, stop blaming me for releasing this. If it wouldn't have been me, it would have been someone else. You should blame the owners, as they're the ones who should be fixing these exploits... and if they can't, then how do you expect them to properly manage a server? It seems they would rather resort to threats and DDoS attacks than to permanently fix their problems. Plus I guarantee there were people using exploits on that server before. At least I exposed those exploits... I'd be really glad if someone found an exploit on my server, because it'd give me the opportunity to fix it, which I'd do immediately.

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Originally Posted by Lateralus And really, stop blaming me for releasing this. If it wouldn't have been me, it would have been someone else. You should blame the owners, as they're the ones who should be fixing these exploits... and if they can't, then how do you expect them to properly manage a server? It seems they would rather resort to threats and DDoS attacks than to permanently fix their problems. Plus I guarantee there were people using exploits on that server before. At least I exposed those exploits... I'd be really glad if someone found a bug on my server, and I'd fix it as soon as possible.

..Even some of the most notorious companies in the world actually EMPLOY 'hackers' etc to make attempts on their security in order to optimize it. Think of it as free advice and take it as a challenge to beat it to make the best security possible for your players.

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All of said 'hacks' mentioned- are not usable on Love2Hate. Perhaps at one point while we were testing out different security methods but I assure you we take every precaution possible to derail any 'cheating' attempts.

Last I tested was patch 1004 IIRC where it worked perfectly. Having quickly redownloading your server and attempting it again without modification, it does not work properly just as you claim. So my apologizes for assuming you wouldn't have updated your security in that time.

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I think it should be noted, that we are not trying to 'compete' with TrueClassic. All servers offer a unique experience in their own way. We are (I believe [but could be wrong])- the only EU "classic" server out there. Or at least we try to be as classic as we can be- without conforming to retarded standards (dropping 10k cps per mob or mirroring co 2.0.. Why??). TC is it's own game- and in its own league. We just take own own ideas, friends and hard work and try to offer an alternative european experience.

You are indeed wrong. [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] is another European "classic" server. It also averages [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] at any given time and they just had a server wipe. I should give it another look tbh.

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If it wouldn't have been me, it would have been someone else. You should blame the owners, as they're the ones who should be fixing these exploits... and if they can't, then how do you expect them to properly manage a server?

I can't argue that.

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Originally Posted by BoredPlayer1 You are indeed wrong. [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] is another European "classic" server. It also averages [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] at any given time and they just had a server wipe. I should give it another look tbh.

Never heard of that server before, but yeah~ best of look to them.

50 players is just an average, we do peak up to 70-80 as well but I'm not going to lie- it isn't regular :p- hence the average.

Again though- we aren't trying / don't want to compete with these people. We have a loyal, English-based community that is growing rapidly- and try to offer the best most original gameplay that we can. It won't be for everyone- granted, but that's not the point anyway ^^..

We don't 'want' peoples money etc- we just want a fun place for people to play where they can get a close experience to Classic CO in a European environment. Players looking for an easy ride or; "free cps"- I gladly show the door :o..

Anyways walls of text over~ dinner time!

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Originally Posted by Lateralus And really, stop blaming me for releasing this. If it wouldn't have been me, it would have been someone else. You should blame the owners, as they're the ones who should be fixing these exploits... and if they can't, then how do you expect them to properly manage a server? It seems they would rather resort to threats and DDoS attacks than to permanently fix their problems. Plus I guarantee there were people using exploits on that server before. At least I exposed those exploits... I'd be really glad if someone found an exploit on my server, because it'd give me the opportunity to fix it, which I'd do immediately.

hey lat

i was crashing thier web site a ton of times they are idiots


and which server is your server?

Classic conquer isn't all that great. It's been around since true classic first started. The coder isn't too good either and the server just keeps going up and down. This is probably atleast the 3rd wipe from what I'm aware of.
Janix: I would say ever server is different but in reality it's not. It's really just different names, staff, and players. The events and quests are really all the same for the most part. That's how it is for the top 5095 servers. All the same crap. But there are a very few servers that have done things differently which I respect. Servers like TC, AcidEstox, and a few others I can't think of from the top of my head. Also, the 'dev' was primarily me as I originally did all the work for true classic.
As for the high ping on the vps. It isn't possible removing lag. Lag will always be there unless everyone in the world has fiber connections with 100 mbit+ connections. A vps is expensive and L2H is trying and is doing a good job of keeping a server online. Renegade went classic for the last 2 months but L2H quickly surpassed them.

Creating a new source from scratch isn't the easiest thing to do. It takes a lot of skill and time. It's true that a classic server using a 1.0 source and client would be the best but again, not easy.

I don't see how many people say true classic is as close to classic as it gets since 1st, you can donate for 2 soc items. I know it's not listed on site but there are a lot of people that spawned from no where and had maxed out gears. It was on their site before though. I remember seeing it. The game economy is a big thing and being able to buy money limits and even ruins it. True Classic really had a lot of potential but 2 big mistakes ruined it, 1st is being able to donate for soo many things that harms the economy and 2nd is the random banning of members which is probably what got true classic into a big mess. I may not be on the server but I do have a majority of the staff on msn and probably 50% of the dedicated players too excluding new ones.

Another thing I do disagree with is the competition. Unless your the only classic server, you have competition.

I just got a new doll.

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Originally Posted by SkyTearZz Classic conquer isn't all that great. It's been around since true classic first started. The coder isn't too good either and the server just keeps going up and down. This is probably atleast the 3rd wipe from what I'm aware of. Janix: I would say ever server is different but in reality it's not. It's really just different names, staff, and players. The events and quests are really all the same for the most part. That's how it is for the top 5095 servers. All the same crap. But there are a very few servers that have done things differently which I respect. Servers like TC, AcidEstox, and a few others I can't think of from the top of my head. Also, the 'dev' was primarily me as I originally did all the work for true classic. As for the high ping on the vps. It isn't possible removing lag. Lag will always be there unless everyone in the world has fiber connections with 100 mbit+ connections. A vps is expensive and L2H is trying and is doing a good job of keeping a server online. Renegade went classic for the last 2 months but L2H quickly surpassed them. Creating a new source from scratch isn't the easiest thing to do. It takes a lot of skill and time. It's true that a classic server using a 1.0 source and client would be the best but again, not easy. I don't see how many people say true classic is as close to classic as it gets since 1st, you can donate for 2 soc items. I know it's not listed on site but there are a lot of people that spawned from no where and had maxed out gears. It was on their site before though. I remember seeing it. The game economy is a big thing and being able to buy money limits and even ruins it. True Classic really had a lot of potential but 2 big mistakes ruined it, 1st is being able to donate for soo many things that harms the economy and 2nd is the random banning of members which is probably what got true classic into a big mess. I may not be on the server but I do have a majority of the staff on msn and probably 50% of the dedicated players too excluding new ones. Another thing I do disagree with is the competition. Unless your the only classic server, you have competition.

I know the work you put into TC- and it's what they did to you that justifies me taking a disliking to them (among other things).

And as far as competition goes- I didn't say we never had any-- just that we aren't TRYING to 'compete'.. We're doing OUR thing.. Not seeing what other servers are doing and 'trying to do it better'. ;)

But yeah, you deserve more credit than you get. You've helped me a lot with things so you have my respect. :)

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Originally Posted by BaussHacker I just got a new doll.

Dolls are hawt.. I have 2, one is bald. :cool:

What are dolls?