After change 2 Dropbox, ZygorDDL restart and Crash.
Why they dont install the tool, always start temp.
greetz
Why they dont install the tool, always start temp.
greetz
ZygorDDL - Zygor Guides downloader & updater
09/25/2012 02:39
Musti83#571
09/25/2012 02:48
SHJordan#572
=\ Oh man... don't let be fooled by these leechers... You and 1badbobby are the ones i most consider over the forum, please, dont do that... =[Quote:
Yes I did that in the past. And now? You're the best example, that this was required. And this information is just included in your own download. So, it's not my problem, if you share these informations with other people.
However... You may be right. From now, the project has been closed. I'm done.
As soon, as I'm awake, I'll remove everything, regarding ZygorDDL (which is 100 percent my own code). That does also include this thread.
Then, you can do, whatever you like.
09/25/2012 02:49
morreale#573
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!Quote:
However... You may be right. From now, the project has been closed. I'm done.
As soon, as I'm awake, I'll remove everything, regarding ZygorDDL (which is 100 percent my own code). That does also include this thread.
Then, you can do, whatever you like.
09/25/2012 02:55
highrup#574
seriously mate, dont drop the project, many of your loyal followers will surely be dissapointed including myself, dont let this cat get to you because he wants to mock your work.
09/25/2012 02:56
Kronvict#575
Please don't let a bad apple spoil the bunch. :-( I really appreciate the work that you do to help us with this. I will gladly chip in to support the project come payday.Quote:
However... You may be right. From now, the project has been closed. I'm done.
As soon, as I'm awake, I'll remove everything, regarding ZygorDDL (which is 100 percent my own code). That does also include this thread.
Then, you can do, whatever you like.
09/25/2012 03:21
Bristae#576
What a douchenozzle....
09/25/2012 03:24
zxrac#577
please keep updating we love you!
09/25/2012 03:33
cswink267#578
Wow, what an asshole. Is there no way to get rid of this jerk?Quote:
I left my dropbox account open where I was placing the zip file for mac users to grab the latest version and apparently, someone decided to share them. I completely forgot about the dropbox account where I was putting it, I was using it myself to grab the zip for other accounts. Apparently, whoever decided to share them repackaged them because again, I dont use rar files.
Its fine tho, I have other ways of getting this addon and doing the RIGHT thing and making it publicly available without closing out users because they have a Mac or dont want to use an exe.
For Christs sake, you didnt write the damn thing, all you did was modify their downloader and steal their work and then closed it off for the purpose of getting any donation money sent to you other than someone else.
09/25/2012 03:34
casper66333#579
First off let me say its sad to hear that you wont be continuing the development of Zygordll. Only thing I can say is try to reconsider your decision and keep in mind all the people that appreciate the time, effort you put in to it. Thanks again
09/25/2012 04:57
zxrac#580
does anybody know how to move the magic key text? that is in the corner of the screen?
09/25/2012 05:37
t0li#581
i don't know what to say ... first, wow, i sleep for 8 hours, and the world turns around on an asshole.
littlewierdo, if you decided to upload zygor, by yourself, to the public via a filesharing website, that's entirely your decision and the repercussions also fall onto you to limit or be aware of that. dropbox has T&C's that would say something very different to your idea, but that's up to dropbox or the site you use.
then again, you seem to be blind to reality, so i'll explain it out.
1. the reason whoknows it asks people not to distribute it, is so it's not noticed by zygor, lawyers tend to be people as likeminded and nastier than you are, because they have deep insecurities.
zygor, and whoknowsit both skirt around the legality of the issue, that blizzard's developer API clearly states you can't sell an addon, or force people to donate to access the files, (due to carbonite, and others, mostly carbonite.), and even curse, tries to end-run around the donation restriction by compensating addon authors based on users selecting their "favourites" as an opt-in donation.
i'm not trying to muddy up the issue deliberately, but you seem to believe one side can hold the high ground morally by asking for money over another side asking for money for a different reason, when the amount of money being recieved on both sides is exponentially different.
2. your perspective is rather odd, donations are intended to be optional and if it is worded badly, i don't see this as an antagonistic guilt relationship. you, do.
the donation level prior to me donating 1/3-1/2 of the cash towards the extended guides, was pretty low, and you can actually see how much is donated when you actually donate money, which i assume you have not done, because you're only seeking an emotive response to agree with you, to make you appear correct in the face of logic.
there's also the running cost of letting people download the guides with just a forum account, which might seem transparently low, and is mostly transparent. 12mb x 1000+ users, including app updates, RSS feed traffic, repair options, etc. adds up in download traffic every few days.
3rd. there has always been an identifier in the guides since almost version 2.0 or some even older iteration, and it was occasionally modified by scripts so you never looked for it, saw it or knew it was there. it was also something needed for general obscurity as zygor have a lot of disposable income to pursue people uploading the files via filesharing sites.
3rd if you feel confident, ZygorDDL is not the only option out there.
you can DIY.
there's probably a few QT4 or python (python libs would be easier to handle SSL and HTTP error/resuming) frontends in which you can use the same HWID code, HTTP, SSL certificate & API handling for dropbox and google, an md5 checksum, an integrated file unpacker, and file parser, and a shiny self-update-capable GUI. you may also need a way to update several backup storage locations at the same time for redundancy, but, go for it.
if you feel ambitious, you can code it in Xcode + cocoa as a purely mac-only app, grab the xcode 4.1 sdk, a couple of open-source dropbox syncing apps, cyberduck seems okay) and something you like the look of, see how their code works, and tie it together into your own app.
surprise us with your loud arrogance, build a mac version for your mac friends to replace the zygor client. Perhaps, the main issue, you'd also need someone willing to work with you, or to give you money in order for you to access the zygor files. probably not me, see if your mac friends will help you out.
first things first, build the client. i.e. there's not a lot of rocket science in building a rocket, the science is in getting it to fly properly the first time and not explode. then you can put people inside it.
lastly, and more of a note to everyone else, they forgot to put in the panda levelling area (The Wandering Isle 1-12 ish) in 4.0.5050, so you may need those files if you're starting a panda. everything else seems to be there.
littlewierdo, if you decided to upload zygor, by yourself, to the public via a filesharing website, that's entirely your decision and the repercussions also fall onto you to limit or be aware of that. dropbox has T&C's that would say something very different to your idea, but that's up to dropbox or the site you use.
then again, you seem to be blind to reality, so i'll explain it out.
1. the reason whoknows it asks people not to distribute it, is so it's not noticed by zygor, lawyers tend to be people as likeminded and nastier than you are, because they have deep insecurities.
zygor, and whoknowsit both skirt around the legality of the issue, that blizzard's developer API clearly states you can't sell an addon, or force people to donate to access the files, (due to carbonite, and others, mostly carbonite.), and even curse, tries to end-run around the donation restriction by compensating addon authors based on users selecting their "favourites" as an opt-in donation.
i'm not trying to muddy up the issue deliberately, but you seem to believe one side can hold the high ground morally by asking for money over another side asking for money for a different reason, when the amount of money being recieved on both sides is exponentially different.
2. your perspective is rather odd, donations are intended to be optional and if it is worded badly, i don't see this as an antagonistic guilt relationship. you, do.
the donation level prior to me donating 1/3-1/2 of the cash towards the extended guides, was pretty low, and you can actually see how much is donated when you actually donate money, which i assume you have not done, because you're only seeking an emotive response to agree with you, to make you appear correct in the face of logic.
there's also the running cost of letting people download the guides with just a forum account, which might seem transparently low, and is mostly transparent. 12mb x 1000+ users, including app updates, RSS feed traffic, repair options, etc. adds up in download traffic every few days.
3rd. there has always been an identifier in the guides since almost version 2.0 or some even older iteration, and it was occasionally modified by scripts so you never looked for it, saw it or knew it was there. it was also something needed for general obscurity as zygor have a lot of disposable income to pursue people uploading the files via filesharing sites.
3rd if you feel confident, ZygorDDL is not the only option out there.
you can DIY.
there's probably a few QT4 or python (python libs would be easier to handle SSL and HTTP error/resuming) frontends in which you can use the same HWID code, HTTP, SSL certificate & API handling for dropbox and google, an md5 checksum, an integrated file unpacker, and file parser, and a shiny self-update-capable GUI. you may also need a way to update several backup storage locations at the same time for redundancy, but, go for it.
if you feel ambitious, you can code it in Xcode + cocoa as a purely mac-only app, grab the xcode 4.1 sdk, a couple of open-source dropbox syncing apps, cyberduck seems okay) and something you like the look of, see how their code works, and tie it together into your own app.
surprise us with your loud arrogance, build a mac version for your mac friends to replace the zygor client. Perhaps, the main issue, you'd also need someone willing to work with you, or to give you money in order for you to access the zygor files. probably not me, see if your mac friends will help you out.
first things first, build the client. i.e. there's not a lot of rocket science in building a rocket, the science is in getting it to fly properly the first time and not explode. then you can put people inside it.
lastly, and more of a note to everyone else, they forgot to put in the panda levelling area (The Wandering Isle 1-12 ish) in 4.0.5050, so you may need those files if you're starting a panda. everything else seems to be there.
09/25/2012 06:20
baqbaq79#582
I have a problem witch update , write here a server is down
09/25/2012 06:54
zxrac#583
anybody know if 5052 fixes fps?
09/25/2012 06:58
JamesTheMad#584
Disable the internal waypoint module and use Tomtom, much faster, gets rid of the slowdown till zygor fixes their internal waypoint module.
In addition, Whoknowsit, Please don't shut down this project. I and several other people appreciate what you are doing.
In addition, Whoknowsit, Please don't shut down this project. I and several other people appreciate what you are doing.
09/25/2012 06:59
littlewierdo#585
1. Except, the whole flaw with everything you said is that he banned someone for sharing it HERE on THIS site, not sharing it elsewhere.Quote:
littlewierdo, if you decided to upload zygor, by yourself, to the public via a filesharing website, that's entirely your decision and the repercussions also fall onto you to limit or be aware of that. dropbox has T&C's that would say something very different to your idea, but that's up to dropbox or the site you use.
then again, you seem to be blind to reality, so i'll explain it out.
1. the reason whoknows it asks people not to distribute it, is so it's not noticed by zygor, lawyers tend to be people as likeminded and nastier than you are, because they have deep insecurities.
zygor, and whoknowsit both skirt around the legality of the issue, that blizzard's developer API clearly states you can't sell an addon, or force people to donate to access the files, (due to carbonite, and others, mostly carbonite.), and even curse, tries to end-run around the donation restriction by compensating addon authors based on users selecting their "favourites" as an opt-in donation.
i'm not trying to muddy up the issue deliberately, but you seem to believe one side can hold the high ground morally by asking for money over another side asking for money for a different reason, when the amount of money being recieved on both sides is exponentially different.
2. your perspective is rather odd, donations are intended to be optional and if it is worded badly, i don't see this as an antagonistic guilt relationship. you, do.
the donation level prior to me donating 1/3-1/2 of the cash towards the extended guides, was pretty low, and you can actually see how much is donated when you actually donate money, which i assume you have not done, because you're only seeking an emotive response to agree with you, to make you appear correct in the face of logic.
there's also the running cost of letting people download the guides with just a forum account, which might seem transparently low, and is mostly transparent. 12mb x 1000+ users, including app updates, RSS feed traffic, repair options, etc. adds up in download traffic every few days.
3rd. there has always been an identifier in the guides since almost version 2.0 or some even older iteration, and it was occasionally modified by scripts so you never looked for it, saw it or knew it was there. it was also something needed for general obscurity as zygor have a lot of disposable income to pursue people uploading the files via filesharing sites.
3rd if you feel confident, ZygorDDL is not the only option out there.
you can DIY.
there's probably a few QT4 or python (python libs would be easier to handle SSL and HTTP error/resuming) frontends in which you can use the same HWID code, HTTP, SSL certificate & API handling for dropbox and google, an md5 checksum, an integrated file unpacker, and file parser, and a shiny self-update-capable GUI. you may also need a way to update several backup storage locations at the same time for redundancy, but, go for it.
if you feel ambitious, you can code it in Xcode + cocoa as a purely mac-only app, grab the xcode 4.1 sdk, a couple of open-source dropbox syncing apps, cyberduck seems okay) and something you like the look of, see how their code works, and tie it together into your own app.
surprise us with your loud arrogance, build a mac version for your mac friends to replace the zygor client. Perhaps, the main issue, you'd also need someone willing to work with you, or to give you money in order for you to access the zygor files. probably not me, see if your mac friends will help you out.
first things first, build the client. i.e. there's not a lot of rocket science in building a rocket, the science is in getting it to fly properly the first time and not explode. then you can put people inside it.
lastly, and more of a note to everyone else, they forgot to put in the panda levelling area (The Wandering Isle 1-12 ish) in 4.0.5050, so you may need those files if you're starting a panda. everything else seems to be there.
2. I only posted into Dropbox for myself and 2 other persons that use Dropbox and have Macs and were unable to obtain the files because they were on a Mac and unable to use ZygorDDL. I have since changed this but that doesnt matter since Im now banned anyway.
3. My points regarding donations were not that people should (or not) pay money for a pirated product vs the real product, my point was that the way I see it (and still do) was that in order to keep the money and credit all to himself, the guy started banning people for sharing this right here on elitepvpers. Sure, it was hosted on mediafire. But finding something on mediafire is impossible unless you have a link, something that was only provided here (security through obscurity - ie. the amount of 'stuff' on mediafire pretty much makes it impossible to find anything unless you know where to look - ie. a link which was only provided here).
4. Regarding server costs, a moot point. The guy is using dropbox & Google, both of which are free to a certain level of storage space, something which zygor is far from exceeding.
5. The user identifiable information is not being put there by Zygor, it was being put there by the guy who claims to have written zygorDDL. This is NOT cool.
6. The guide being provided by ZygorDDL is out of date, it is at version *.*.5052 now.
In the grand scheme of things, he is free to do what he wants. I dont agree and Im voicing that opinion. Im not looking for sympathy, others are allowed to have their own opinion and agree or disagree with mine.