Cracking SV

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Originally posted by faisalmowa@May 3 2007, 04:02 plzz send me auto plvl in my email ([Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...])

omg,ppl like u makes me want to kill some 1 <_<

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Originally posted by AntiBNI+May 3 2007, 04:09--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (AntiBNI @ May 3 2007, 04:09)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--faisalmowa@May 3 2007, 04:02 plzz send me auto plvl in my email ([Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...])

omg,ppl like u makes me want to kill some 1 <_< [/b][/quote]
I dont understand why elitepvper forum wont release the cracked version of SV. Instead, they release a guide to help you study cracking SV. I mean, what is the point of that? I followed her guide and successfully cracked the older version of SV, but in the end, I didnt learn shit about cracking nor do I learn anything about memory stuff whatsoever. If elitepvper forum were really trying to help people improve their cracking skill, they should create a section for beginners like me. Starting with the very basics, just like before doing the complicated math problems, you need first to learn how to count number properly. We, most of people, are those who try to do the more complicated math problems without first getting to used to known of some of the basic principles or concepts. Anyway, elitepvper really should create a section for helping beginners to actually learn, as i suggested above. Dont flame me calling me lazy, because i am not. I just think it is not worth it spending 2 hours cracking SV, and in the end you never really learned how to crack it yourself. A perfect example would be the upgrade of SV. If people really knew how to crack SV by reading Ana's post, then why most people still ask for cracked bot? I hope we can all be as skillful as threadstarter someday.

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Originally posted by kevindai@May 3 2007, 05:47 I dont understand why elitepvper forum wont release the cracked version of SV. Instead, they release a guide to help you study cracking SV. I mean, what is the point of that? I followed her guide and successfully cracked the older version of SV, but in the end, I didnt learn shit about cracking nor do I learn anything about memory stuff whatsoever. If elitepvper forum were really trying to help people improve their cracking skill, they should create a section for beginners like me. Starting with the very basics, just like before doing the complicated math problems, you need first to learn how to count number properly. We, most of people, are those who try to do the more complicated math problems without first getting to used to known of some of the basic principles or concepts. Anyway, elitepvper really should create a section for helping beginners to actually learn, as i suggested above.

That's a really good point. It seems that in this forum you either get flamed for being a nooblet at cracking stuff and asking for bots in desperation (which is ridiculous as not everyone is a Bill Gates computer programmer), or you have to decipher the complicated guides on cracking. Anantasia was very nice as s/he sent me an easier version of cracking SV which I used for V1.06 and 1.07 (which stopped working after 4347), but I still couldn't understand most of the guides that was put up as I have no knowledge of programming.

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Originally posted by requiescence+May 3 2007, 05:51--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (requiescence @ May 3 2007, 05:51)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--kevindai@May 3 2007, 05:47 I dont understand why elitepvper forum wont release the cracked version of SV. Instead, they release a guide to help you study cracking SV. I mean, what is the point of that? I followed her guide and successfully cracked the older version of SV, but in the end, I didnt learn shit about cracking nor do I learn anything about memory stuff whatsoever. If elitepvper forum were really trying to help people improve their cracking skill, they should create a section for beginners like me. Starting with the very basics, just like before doing the complicated math problems, you need first to learn how to count number properly. We, most of people, are those who try to do the more complicated math problems without first getting to used to known of some of the basic principles or concepts. Anyway, elitepvper really should create a section for helping beginners to actually learn, as i suggested above.

That's a really good point. It seems that in this forum you either get flamed for being a nooblet at cracking stuff and asking for bots in desperation (which is ridiculous as not everyone is a Bill Gates computer programmer), or you have to decipher the complicated guides on cracking. Anantasia was very nice as s/he sent me an easier version of cracking SV which I used for V1.06 and 1.07 (which stopped working after 4347), but I still couldn't understand most of the guides that was put up as I have no knowledge of programming. [/b][/quote]
We need specific players who will dumb down anan's guide for people like us who can't do programming.

Strategy to crack this program is finding linking between EXE and DLL file in SV program and command hook/unhook your keyboard. by Anantasia.

I am having trouble in the beginning of this thread. First of all, i dont know what a DLL. And I never heared there existing a linkage between a DLL and EXE files. Second, hooking/unhooking keybord are new concepts to me. Thats what i have been talking about --------- we cannt catch up with Anantasia. She is like an university professor who try to make 3 years old kids undersatnd + digest the concepts of universal gravity.

Their intentions isnt teaching you bout cracking in general..

Epvp made its own rules that distribution of cracked SV isnt allowed anymore
so basicly the only way of making it reachable to ppl
is making them follow their steps to crack it themselfs

Honestly i dont even know how anantasia has enough patience to try to crack it
and still make a so easy to follow guide for ppl to crack it

and honestly.. im not an expert on cracking either
but i've been checking memory addresses and trying to track the right ones to make the bot work..
and its being really hard

at least for me it is :rolleyes:

ppl should feel bad for being so demanding...

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Originally posted by coolboy0286+May 3 2007, 05:58--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (coolboy0286 @ May 3 2007, 05:58)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Quote: Originally posted by -requiescence@May 3 2007, 05:51 Quote: Originally posted by -kevindai@May 3 2007, 05:47 I dont understand why elitepvper forum wont release the cracked version of SV.?Instead, they release a guide to help you study cracking SV.?I mean, what is the point of that??I followed her guide and successfully cracked the older version of SV, but in the end, I didnt learn shit about cracking nor do I learn anything about memory stuff whatsoever.?nbsp; If elitepvper forum were really trying to help people improve their cracking skill, they should create a section for beginners like me.?Starting with the very basics, just like before doing the complicated math problems,?you need first to learn how to count number properly.?nbsp; We, most of people, are those who try to do the more complicated math problems without first getting to used to known of some of the basic principles or concepts.?Anyway, elitepvper really should create a section for helping beginners to actually learn, as i suggested above. That's a really good point. It seems that in this forum you either get flamed for being a nooblet at cracking stuff and asking for bots in desperation (which is ridiculous as not everyone is a Bill Gates computer programmer), or you have to decipher the complicated guides on cracking. Anantasia was very nice as s/he sent me an easier version of cracking SV which I used for V1.06 and 1.07 (which stopped working after 4347), but I still couldn't understand most of the guides that was put up as I have no knowledge of programming. We need specific players who will dumb down anan's guide for people like us who can't do programming. [/b]

Or we need pros who can teach us from the very beginning. How about creates 3 sections. 1 for beginners, another for intermediate hackers and the last one is for the pros. Its like web class where you really learned something not only hacking but the whole general concept such as "how to burn a CD; how to make a ghostfile to backup your system". Those things are the ones we needed the most in daily life. And those things could really benefit us.

<hr>Append on May 3 2007, 06:09<hr><!--QuoteBegin--logobel@May 3 2007, 06:04

but i've been checking memory addresses and trying to track the right ones to make the bot work..
and its being really hard

at least for me it is :rolleyes:

ppl should feel bad for being so demanding... [/quote]
Did you ask yourself a question of what an address really is? You may only know how to track it because someone told you, but you might not know WHY you track address in order for SV to work. SEe, that's the problem. And i am not demanding. I am suggesting, because i wish elitepvper could increase the quality of their members, so the forum could last long.

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Originally posted by kevindai@May 3 2007, 06:00 Strategy to crack this program is finding linking between EXE and DLL file in SV program and command hook/unhook your keyboard. by Anantasia. I am having trouble in the beginning of this thread. First of all, i dont know what a DLL. And I never heared there existing a linkage between a DLL and EXE files. Second, hooking/unhooking keybord are new concepts to me. Thats what i have been talking about --------- we cannt catch up with Anantasia. She is like an university professor who try to make 3 years old kids undersatnd + digest the concepts of universal gravity.

Omg dude 0.0...

All programs MUST have a linkage btw exe and dll/ini/or whatever,you just need to find that linkage.

You dont know what a DLL is o.0, im not triying to be a nerc nor making u look like a moron but; atleast if u wanna get into memory editing/packet sending/hex editing and all that stuff, u need to learn the principals of programs.

The tut its not hard, it just needs alitle refining for better understanding.

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That's a really good point. It seems that in this forum you either get flamed for being a nooblet at cracking stuff and asking for bots in desperation (which is ridiculous as not everyone is a Bill Gates computer programmer), or you have to decipher the complicated guides on cracking. Anantasia was very nice as s/he sent me an easier version of cracking SV which I used for V1.06 and 1.07 (which stopped working after 4347), but I still couldn't understand most of the guides that was put up as I have no knowledge of programming.

Bill gates suck -_-

It is not a difficult concept to understand. Yes, I know that most of us that do understand it are programmers of some sort (guilty).

It starts like this. An exe is a very simple file. It contains little code for what is done with the program.

Other files, such as .dll or .ini or anything like that, do the heavy work.

Think of it like this, a .exe file is a shell. That shell is used for a friendly user interface. The .dll is not supposed to be seen or understood by the casual user, because as long as that user knows how to run the .exe, they are fine.

Here, we are trying to find that linkage and change it so we can use the software.

Basically, what anastasia and others try to do (and do it successfully) is basically find snippets of code that handle the permission to use the program.

Some versions, they were able to make it so that it would completely bypass the connection and work with the program blocked form internet access. Other versions, they found a way to "trick" the creators login system into thinking that the junk you were putting in as a username and password was legitimate.

Following the directions is fairly simple, well they used to be.

Im not sure why they took down the cheat engine method, I'm sure its still here somewhere.

But, if you follow steps properly, ask a real question when needed, you should have no problem. And if you can't figure it out even with help, maybe you shouldn't be here, not saying anyone shouldn't be here.

From what I understand, anantasia isn't completely fluent in English, so the directions may be a little hard to understand, and thats fine. But what you actually do to the code is still there.

Hopefully this clears the air a little about files and how programs work.

Always feel free to ask me questions.

<hr>Append on May 3 2007, 06:32<hr>

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Originally posted by AntiBNI@May 3 2007, 06:15 Omg dude 0.0... All programs MUST have a linkage btw exe and dll/ini/or whatever,you just need to find that linkage. You dont know what a DLL is o.0, im not triying to be a nerc nor making u look like a moron but; atleast if u wanna get into memory editing/packet sending/hex editing and all that stuff, u need to learn the principals of programs. The tut its not hard, it just needs alitle refining for better understanding.

Oh, and to you, don't act like you know everything and rip on people who dont. Not everyone knows what those files do. As a matter of fact, not many do. So I suggest you stop.

The funny thing is that I took the sentence only as an example to prove my point made above.

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Originally posted by kevindai@May 3 2007, 06:41 The funny thing is that I took the sentence only as an example to prove my point made above.

What are you saying exactly?

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Originally posted by theduderr@May 3 2007, 06:27 From what I understand, anantasia isn't completely fluent in English, so the directions may be a little hard to understand, and thats fine. But what you actually do to the code is still there.

so your saying the cheat engine guide should work on the new version of SV?

well guys, the best tutorial on hacking i've seen so far came from this awesome guy, its kind of outdated but the idea is good, if anyone is interested in exploring it further with me, pls pm me, need some help too

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kevin dude, u absolutely shocked me......
dude, this is EPVP! it is created for its purpose, and w/e tat purpose is, it is not to teach ppl programming
and, if u dont even know wat is dll or exe, then plz , go somewhere and learn. e*pvp is not a school.
btw, ppl who post how to crack should be well respected, their work is for FREE, u shuold not demand anymore easier guide if u cant understand it urself

<hr>Append on May 3 2007, 07:24<hr> btw, create a section for newbies is a good idea indeed. but dont think it is possible for many reasons

Yea, thats not a bad idea. But it would be difficult. And no, I'm not saying the cheat engine method would work, because the crack needs to be updated for the changes in the game that prevent it to work. I was just trying to say that the cheat engine method is extremely simple.