[Unofficial] World of Warcraft Unlockers and Bot Reviews

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Originally Posted by hsal93 Can I ask, why do you need 2 PCs for RR?

The 1pc version has been detected multiple times. their 2 pc version has not. though any 2pc bot is almost impossible to detect.

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Originally Posted by deststraw The 1pc version has been detected multiple times. their 2 pc version has not. though any 2pc bot is almost impossible to detect.

Do you need 2 subs for it?

you dont need 2 pcs and you dont need 2 subs if you use vm/2pc method. Vm method is just as safe but only requires 1pc. Just not using any of this will be problematic. If you have a decent pc vm is just fine. Its a very light vm cause it only runs a stream and rice nothing else. I feel like we are in the wrong thread, no?

Project Sylvanas ban wave today

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Originally Posted by tamedbeast I removed their review recently because their mods banned me from their chat after I criticized the owner's constant random rants that almost turn into storytime novels. If you're fine with AI generated rotations, a community that's cult-like, and censorship of any criticisms, then you might be okay there. Personally, I prefer rotations made by actual players who actually play the game at high levels, not some casuals that barely understand the fundamentals of the game. About the banwave list they used to have (but removed), they never included themselves, even though they got detected multiple times. I guess removing the list altogether was easier than dealing with the drama caused by their hypocrisy. If you're looking for a community where your opinion won't be silenced, there are way better options with active developers who actually play the game. For PvP, I recommend Clipper, Lunar, Aurora, or SadRotations which can be used on NilName Unlocker or Tinkr Unlocker. For PvE rotations, go with NilName Rotations or Phoenix. When it comes to ban risks, they're pretty much the same across all platforms, whether you're using internals, unlockers, or pixel bots. If Blizzard decides to crack down, the result is the same. Bottom line, I wouldn't recommend them because there are better options and better communities. Also, your original post feels like you're trying to ragebait, especially since the banwave list hasn't been up on their site for weeks, yet you claim you just found out about Project Sylvanas.

Despite the banwave from today, your feedback is incredibly bias and anyone who reads it, please take with a huge grain of salt.

AI rotations couldn't be further from the truth. The level of development on most rotations is beyond what I've seen on most other platforms.

Not only can you find a rotation that has a dedicated "tank only" dev who knows, plays, understands the class in question, you would also find within this rotation custom combat logic, and/or SimC integration.

Giving the user choice to use custom APL or SimC APL.

The API continues to grow, and has functions that no other provider has done.


There are PvP devs who only play one spec, one class, and have dedicated the entire season to perfecting their one single rotation, and it performs at a level you would expect from this level of dedication.

Censorship, its straight up bullshit. I have never seen anyone's posts removed for any reason. Shit I myself would have wanted to be removed, and users banned for posting, Silvi makes a point to allow full transparent posting in chat.

Its possible you did get silenced, I dont know what was said. But I can say, in the months I've been in chat, I've never once seen it. But you still could be telling the truth.

Silvi and Barny are the two "who dont play the game" thats true. But they're high level coders who at a minimum have been able to provide working specs across the board. PvP rotations that work, and work well.

But beyond them, are the countless dedicated committed devs who write some of the most high level, high performing rotations I've seen across numerous providers. Not acknowledging this is criminal. If you didn't try any of these rotations, thats on you and you should be fair about this.

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Originally Posted by nevenias Project Sylvanas ban wave today Despite the banwave from today, your feedback is incredibly bias

lol... COPE.

I really appreciate the author for posting this. Could you share your perspective on Project-Sylvanas? Someone I'm not familiar with recently recommended it to me, but I'm unsure whether to try it.

Hey what’s the best for Classic Anniversary any recommendations?
Looking for Pve Rotations

Why is Nilname advertised here? Its 99% of the time on status Risk LOL.

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Originally Posted by estexx Why is Nilname advertised here? Its 99% of the time on status Risk LOL.

99%? That's a bit exaggerated; however, the review is about the rotations themselves, not the unlocker.

As everyone knows, anything that uses memory, especially anything that edits memory, is risky. It's always been that way, and it hasn't changed.

PS, NN, and Daemonic have risk all the time. The difference is that NN announces it on their website, while the others don't. As a result, you often have no idea that other platforms are at the same risk level.

If NN didn't make those posts, you would have never known they existed.

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Originally Posted by Dcmurdock Hey what’s the best for Classic Anniversary any recommendations? Looking for Pve Rotations

depends on what you play on Mac or PC?

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Originally Posted by lim0318 I really appreciate the author for posting this. Could you share your perspective on Project-Sylvanas? Someone I'm not familiar with recently recommended it to me, but I'm unsure whether to try it.

I've recently shared my perspective on PS. But to make it short and sweet. The platform itself is okay; it's well developed, but there are better alternatives. However, the rotations are "mostly bad." There is an exception for a couple of the rotations, but the majority of it is bad. And really, rotations are all the platform is "currently" good for, and they can't seem to even excel in that. Maybe it will change in the future, I don't know, right now in the last couple of months they've really struggled with detection issues and self-identity.

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Originally Posted by tamedbeast 99%? That's a bit exaggerated; however, the review is about the rotations themselves, not the unlocker. As everyone knows, anything that uses memory, especially anything that edits memory, is risky. It's always been that way, and it hasn't changed. PS, NN, and Daemonic have risk all the time. The difference is that NN announces it on their website, while the others don't. As a result, you often have no idea that other platforms are at the same risk level. If NN didn't make those posts, you would have never known they existed. depends on what you play on Mac or PC? I've recently shared my perspective on PS. But to make it short and sweet. The platform itself is okay; it's well developed, but there are better alternatives. However, the rotations are "mostly bad." There is an exception for a couple of the rotations, but the majority of it is bad. And really, rotations are all the platform is "currently" good for, and they can't seem to even excel in that. Maybe it will change in the future, I don't know, right now in the last couple of months they've really struggled with detection issues and self-identity.

I am not here to bash on anyone however, I think you are being quite unfair to ps in these messages, we can all agree that there is a big difference in a detection and an ac team issuing a constant barrage of modules to focus solely on your platform to issue bans, Silvi has measures in place to fight these attacks however this last time it was not enough, but still only a handful out of the hundreds of people that were actively in game using it at the time were affected because the preventive measures worked for most of us. From my knowledge ps has only had one true detection, had had a handful of people banned twice because of a module attack from blizzard, comparing ps and nn is a massive joke imho, I guarantee I could go use nn right and be banned this time tomorrow if not sooner, it’s unusable and constantly down due to detection or simply not being updated.

My final statement will be that removing a review from not just ps but any platform in general is quite disrespectful and honestly not very trustworthy when you could instead just provide an updated review whether it’s good or bad

As for getting kicked from the discord I won’t say much on this but at the end of the day people can run their discords however they please, it’s not like they stole money from you, you were kicked by a mod due to an argument which they have the right to do so if they please, but it’s not like they removed your key or anything of the sort

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Originally Posted by trentmccreight2022 I am not here to bash on anyone however, I think you are being quite unfair to ps in these messages, we can all agree that there is a big difference in a detection and an ac team issuing a constant barrage of modules to focus solely on your platform to issue bans, Silvi has measures in place to fight these attacks however this last time it was not enough, but still only a handful out of the hundreds of people that were actively in game using it at the time were affected because the preventive measures worked for most of us. From my knowledge ps has only had one true detection, had had a handful of people banned twice because of a module attack from blizzard, comparing ps and nn is a massive joke imho, I guarantee I could go use nn right and be banned this time tomorrow if not sooner, it’s unusable and constantly down due to detection or simply not being updated. My final statement will be that removing a review from not just ps but any platform in general is quite disrespectful and honestly not very trustworthy when you could instead just provide an updated review whether it’s good or bad As for getting kicked from the discord I won’t say much on this but at the end of the day people can run their discords however they please, it’s not like they stole money from you, you were kicked by a mod due to an argument which they have the right to do so if they please, but it’s not like they removed your key or anything of the sort

Well, you can feel how you want, just as I feel how I want. You call it bias; I call it my user experience. While I understand you're offended that PS isn’t on this review list, it will stay that way as long as I'm banned from their community. Just as they have the right to remove me from the community, I also have the right to share my opinion in my reviews based on my availability of the product and community. This isn't a bias, this is my choice and opinion. If people want my opinion on them, they can find it here in the messages of this thread. If you disagree with that opinion, that's fine, you're your own person.

I have made my view very clear on what I think about PS, and nothing right now is going to alter that until I see improvements to convince us otherwise.

1. Rotations are not that great 90% of the offered rotations are below average in comparison to other 3rd parties on other platforms.
2. The security of the PS is not what the developer promised its users; it has had several HARD detections over the last few months. Even if mitigation measures were in place, this doesn't negate the fact that it was easy for Blizzard to detect.
3. Other than rotations, the platform really has nothing else going for it as of yet
4. The developer API is the best thing about it
5. The community is very cult like, while some of the community are nice guys, the other half are not.
6. Censorship of opinion is a problem in PS

If we were to compare PS to other communities, such as Clipper, Mukulu, Spiken, Murloc, Lunar, Aurora, Phx, GGL, Rice, Tinkr, NN, and Daemonic, etc., those other rotation developers and platforms would undoubtedly outperform PS in terms of quality across all aspects, including community. You get respect when you earn it. Sending your shills out to make posts on the forums in your defense earns you nothing.

depends on what you play on Mac or PC?


Pc anniversary pve and mop pve+pvp, that’s what iam looking for in Rotation bot

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Originally Posted by Dcmurdock depends on what you play on Mac or PC? Pc anniversary pve and mop pve+pvp, that’s what iam looking for in Rotation bot

Well, for memory-based stuff, there isn't a lot of PVP options for MOP. It's kinda limited. Clipper supports a few specs, Lunar a few specs.

For PVE NNR (NilName Rotations) supports all MOP classes and specs for PVE

PS might have something, but I wouldn't expect any good performance out of most their rotations.

Spiken Rotations with GGLoader Meta Engine has all classes and specs for both PVE and PVP for MOP, and you can guarantee they'll be top-notch. He is very well known and a highly reputable developer. However, if you don't have a lot of money, GGLoader might not be for you.

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Originally Posted by sansaria21 you dont need 2 pcs and you dont need 2 subs if you use vm/2pc method. Vm method is just as safe but only requires 1pc. Just not using any of this will be problematic. If you have a decent pc vm is just fine. Its a very light vm cause it only runs a stream and rice nothing else. I feel like we are in the wrong thread, no?

Not really sure which thread to use but I'm in the RR discord so have asked there

Assuming you stream the game over to your PC and then run RR on that PC so it can see the streamed WoW game?

Does anyone know how to get in touch with GGL there customer support isn't responding and neither are I believe the creators on the discord. I recently just purchased A product.

I'm starting to think the site is a scam