Private Silkroad Chit-Chat I

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Originally Posted by Chainer* Hahahaha .. just lemme try i got some experience on sro's interfaces also character customization is just replacing some bms and ddj with each other. so i wanna know what exactly in BnS?

Oh please tell me more about how you're gonna do this, sir!

This chit-chat is slowly changing into a skype chat of 5 diff persons :')

Silkroad 2006 ^^

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Originally Posted by StatyO Silkroad 2006 ^^ [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

Here we realize ,once again, how did greedy gaymax achieve to convert such a lovely game into a crappy one.. good old days

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Originally Posted by 3DooM Here we realize ,once again, how did greedy gaymax achieve to convert such a lovely game into a crappy one.. good old days

Let's be fair here, the greedy community that just wanted to bot rather than handgrind destroyed the game. Not joymax, even tho they probably coulda done way more about goldbots- in the end goldbotting was the community's mistake and the reason the game died out.

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Originally Posted by OutlawNL Let's be fair here, the greedy community that just wanted to bot rather than handgrind destroyed the game. Not joymax, even tho they probably coulda done way more about goldbots- in the end goldbotting was the community's mistake and the reason the game died out.

You can't blame a community. It's the developers [managers] fault for not handling the situation. More or less players are just players, they try to get the best out of stuff. Bot? Why not? That's how shit goes if the game didn't fix stuff as soon as they appear.

Here's how I thought about the bot problem. What if you change the packet structure over time [client context] [server sided]. My packet structures are different than yours. Using some encryption done at client to make sniffing much more harder. A lot of possibilities if you ask me but they didn't do shit, their fault, they ruined their own business.

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Originally Posted by ​Exo You can't blame a community. It's the developers [managers] fault for not handling the situation. More or less players are just players, they try to get the best out of stuff. Bot? Why not? That's how shit goes if the game didn't fix stuff as soon as they appear. Here's how I thought about the bot problem. What if you change the packet structure over time [client context] [server sided]. My packet structures are different than yours. Using some encryption done at client to make sniffing much more harder. A lot of possibilities if you ask me but they didn't do shit, their fault, they ruined their own business.

People that want to bot will always find a way to bot, hence it being a community issue.

WoW has botters, LoL has scripters- they're (idk about WoW) banning them and trying to stop it but they won't, as long as players want to bot/script/cheat in games they will find a way.
Once the community will stop cheating/botting in games a game won't die out untill it gets to the point of boredom because it's just outdated.

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Originally Posted by OutlawNL People that want to bot will always find a way to bot, hence it being a community issue. WoW has botters, LoL has scripters- they're (idk about WoW) banning them and trying to stop it but they won't, as long as players want to bot/script/cheat in games they will find a way. Once the community will stop cheating/botting in games a game won't die out untill it gets to the point of boredom because it's just outdated.

There will always be a way to bot but it will be harder with good managers. Changing the architecture over and over using proper encryption, etc, won't actually remove the chance of botting but it will make it harder, really harder. People *in general* won't stop cheating unless ruled by some strict guidelines, it's a rulers duty *game developer* to find his way through if he wants his shit to stay alive as long as possible.

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Originally Posted by OutlawNL Let's be fair here, the greedy community that just wanted to bot rather than handgrind destroyed the game. Not joymax, even tho they probably coulda done way more about goldbots- in the end goldbotting was the community's mistake and the reason the game died out.

If they really want they CAN stop bots.

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Originally Posted by TheWickedNite If they really want they CAN stop bots.

Then there will mostlikely be another way to cheat or bot again, make it less obvious etc.

Bot chitchat ! we need a time machine.

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Originally Posted by OutlawNL Then there will mostlikely be another way to cheat or bot again, make it less obvious etc.

Dude, no! It's all about how you do your stuff. There's always a way 'to' and a way to prevent. In SRO's case it was very easy for them to handle this issue but maybe they didn't care? I doubt they were too stupid to not think of a way to fix it.

*All bots use the same base! One small idea would have solved it.

Have you ever asked who are those ppl behind e.g. sbot or mbot and how much money the earned? :D

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Originally Posted by Invista9 Have you ever asked who are those ppl behind e.g. sbot or mbot and how much money the earned? :D

No, you ?

Hey y'all,

I've been on and off SRO for the past eight years now.

About me
I'm a mechanical engineering student and a recovered addict; life for me is mostly tasks that I am forced to do with no interest whatsoever. So, like many people each with a reason or another, I find mmorpg's to be a fantastic way to reach out into a different realm and live adventures as you would in a dream or fantasy.

Thinking back now I feel both deceived and shocked that I played SRO through Joymax's' servers. I remember stealing about a thousand bucks total from my parents at the age of 14 to buy 'silk' and 'gold'. I also remember spending twice as much in a couple of weeks when I was using!
I'm sure that I'm not the only person with such embarrassing figures, I don't even remember my login information for many a private server in which I 'invested' my money.



So the logical question posed here is WHAT THE HECK?
Well almost everyone wants to be number one, the strongest or the first. This concept is clearly implemented very deeply in games, especially mmorpg's. This is not something theoretical or speculative, I've been attending the course 'economics for engineers' for the past month now and one concept seems to be very clear : every organisation seeks maximizing its profit(whether it's a weaponry factory, pharmaceutical research center or a gaming company). This may seem clear and obvious to many but it's controlling our world, and therefore our daily lives.

To summarize I believe that a self progressive entity can only go forth when 'finances' play no rule in the development, but rather actual raw resources: I consider motivation to be the most important resource of which.




So what's the way to go? Why a private server?
Consider adapting an aquarium just because you are fascinated with water life. You will need money, employees and an involved community to sustain and further develop your little piece of heaven.
Metaphorically saying: once the main goal of your aquarium becomes money then your game/server/business is no more honest and therefore best avoided by true enthusiasts, or in our case SRO lovers.




So what the hell do you want? What's the big idea?
A monthly fee (1~10$) to filter out 'customers' and actually draw true enthusiasts; people who feel simply weird playing other mmorpg's and wish for a true silkroad, tailored to their dreams.




Proposed Features:

• Level 80 cap
• 0.5 or less EXP rate
• Silk may ONLY buy you outfits/avatars

So what makes you think you're the guy for the job?
Well I am not the guy for the job, this is the core principal : it will be a community run server for the one and only reason the server would be maintained is fun!
My university offers a free server/domain for every student, I would love to find a bunch of people interested in recreating a childhood dream and possibly evolve through the latter stages of the game.




Where does the money go? Who are you looking for?
First : Nothing is for free, if you're investing time to develop so you earn accordingly.

Second : Noways every 12 year old is in theory capable of hosting a private server, 3D modeling his own characters and exploring every possibility to get payed some more.
I don't care how old you are, what color your skin happens to be or what you do in life, if you truly think you're talented and willing to spend time creating a better environment to practice your hobby NOT for the sake of money then you match the criteria!


Let me know if you are interested, or maybe if you are not! But then make sure to say why you think it's a bad idea. Neglect can only be constructive when reasoning is involved.



Namaste :handsdown: