lol,thats what i said...in hydravision,you can tick the "hide taskbar tool' or sumthin,and the icon is just gone....and for nvidia, it doesnt show an icon the best i can remember (i switched to ati after my crappy geforce mx440 busted,lol...), and oh yea, if your mouse doesnt show, turn off cursorXP or any other cursor customization programs and its fine...