Originally Posted by enhance11
This is a post reviewing my experience with several current scripting platforms.
All of these thoughts are from my own experiences, and all platforms were paid for with my own money. I have no reputation and no affiliation with any of these platforms, it's all honest reviews with my own opinions. No benefit to myself for rating one platform better than another.
Background:
I'm a D1 EUW player without scripts, and I am in masters with scripts.
I have been scripting since 2015 with BoL.
Notes:
My main roles are mid and adc so I will be writing my reviews with the perspective of my experience with champions in these roles. So please be aware that there will be champions I don't use, in roles I don't play. This could impact your experience with the platform. Feel free to ask about other champions or roles in the comments and hopefully others will be able to help out.
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These platforms are listed in no order.
LegendSense (LS)
Price: 100 USD a month (Can buy 1Day, 1Week, 1Month 1Year subs)
Overview:
Originally a CN only platform but launched in Riot regions a couple of years ago. Currently a fairly unknown platform in the Riot regions, but it is growing in users.
Core:
FPS drops are minimal with this platform and the core loads quickly at game start, often before the spawn gates are removed (15 secs) so invading is not an issue.
In-game menu is clean and easy to navigate with clear tabs/feature labelling. Also additional hint text is used to explain more misc features in detail.
Tons of options to change key binds, drawings, delays, windup etc which all save automatically with no reload.
Supports OBS bypass and Fake Clicks for streaming
Drawings are really high quality and smooth with low impact on FPS
Orbwalker:
Majority of the time the Orbwalker is smooth and accurate when it comes to last hits, even on mages with low AD. Very rarely do I see AA cancels. The only times I have noticed it is melee champions with lethal tempo stacked and an AA reset is being used.
Last hits under tower are OK. It sometimes fails to prep the waves for tower shots when under tower, or it miscalculates and you end up hitting a minion which did not need to be hit, so the tower kills it.
Lane Clear is really quick, it calculates allied incoming minion damage very well so you don't spend much time waiting around for other allied minions to complete their AA before you hit the minion. Very little hesitation which you sometimes see with other platform orbwalkers when they are clearing.
Evade:
Easily the strongest point of the platform. The evade can be massively configured to range from quick and obvious down to smooth legit movement. It comes with 2 presets in the in-game menu which cover both the obvious and legit evade for easy set-up. But you can also manually configure individual spells and modes to your liking. It supports 'rules' which enable you to configure how evade behaves based on certain criteria such as: spells, modes, positions, nearby allies/enemies etc as well. The evade functionality is really well documented on their forum, explaining the logic behind the rules and when they are applied. If you want the best evade in terms of customisability then use LS.
Champion Scripts/Prediction:
Overall support for champions is average and the quality of the scripts varies a lot. The champions which are supported do cover the basic logics and are fine, but many lack detailed customisation and logics which other platforms provide. They are constantly working on improving them, albeit slowly, and they do support 3rd party LUAs but as of yet I have not seen any 3rd party LUAs available. So all champs are using the internal scripts.
Predection is pretty good. I think HanBot still wins here most of the time, but you're going to hit your skills 90% of the time as long as you aren't trying to do something ridiculous.
Loader:
Easily the weakest point of the platform. It's very old, unintuitve and a lot of error messages are still in Chinese. Therefore it can be a pain to diagnose issues due to the lack of translations in the loader and clunky UI.
The loader also needs to be re-opened after every game for a re-inject of the script which is slightly annoying.
Updates to the loader can also break it, meaning you have to delete one of the loader files to reset it. A small issue but still annoying.
Updates to the loader are also sometimes very slow to download, and can randmly break the platform as a whole for no reason, meaning it's unusable until they fix it. More testing before changes are released would be nice.
They say they are in the process of translating the loader, but for now majority of the error messages and titles are in Chinese or very broken english which is a real pain for a platform in Riot regions.
Summary:
Overall a really strong performing internal plaform in a wide range of areas. Evade is the strongest point, Orb is Good but could be better. Champion scripts are basic at times. The loader is the biggest issue for many users. I tend to use this platform when I am playing ADC or if I need a good evade vs the enemy comp.
This is my go to platform for ADC or games where I need a good evade.
Pros:
Best legit Evade
No application process
Solid performance
Decent orbwalker and range of champions supported
Cons:
Lack of 3rd Party scripts currently
Some champion features are basic compared to other platforms
Terrible loader
Scores:
Core: 9/10
Midlane Champion features: 7/10
ADC Champion features: 8/10
Orbwalker: 8/10
Prediction: 8/10
Evade: 10/10
BruhWalker
Price: Entry 100 USD then 75 USD a month
Overview:
A private (in the sense you have to apply and be accepted) platform with a good set of users and devs.
Core:
Probably the weakest part of the platform for me.
They have a few key limitation with the way the core itself interacts with the game which often causes poor script performance compared to other platforms in specific areas. For example, some champions' spell casting is required to be done externally, instead of internally, which means when several targets are close together it can sometimes select the wrong one. Also they recently lost one of their key internal hooks for 2 weeks which left the evade in a bad spot until it came back in 12.7. Other platforms don't have these issues with the core.
The menu in game is clean and easy to use.
The core also loads quickly on game start which is good for invading.
Changes to script configs are not automatically saved so you need to manually save them in the menu, else you'll lose them next game or when you reload.
Orbwalker:
There are 2 options, internal and a 3rd party one. I used the 3rd party one so I will be covering this only.
The orbwalker is OK compared to others.
It preps waves well under tower and doesn't randomly last hit them early under tower like in LS, this is one of it's strengths.
Under high attack speed as an ADC or melee it is also great, not cancelling any AA/stuttering and losing DPS. Again, pretty good.
My only issue was the lane clear. It was very slow compared to LS, Hanbot and LT++. Often waiting for several seconds before hitting a minion because it wanted to secure a last hit when the allied minions were also focussing it. Instead it could have either attacked other minions nearby, or attacked the same minion twice to secure the last hit. If this issue was fixed then the Orb would be on the same level as LS for me. In combat the orb is good though.
Evade:
Again has 2 options. Internal or 3rd party.
Evade is great. Only LS was better for me in terms of customisation options. The smoothness and success was the same as LS which is really impressive.
No issues here, when the core is working correctly. If the core has issues then the quality of the 3rd party evade I used massively drops.
Champion Scripts\Prediction:
BruhWalker has internal scripts and 3rd party script developers. Again I used the 3rd party ones.
The 3rd party devs are very open to suggestions, willingly discussing them and applying them quickly if they can see the benefit of them.
New champions are constantly being added by the 3rd party devs, but not all of the champs are supported yet.
The quality of the scripts is generally high. A few champs are basic, but can easily be improved by posting suggestions to the devs which is nice.
I'd say most of the 3rd party scripts are as high quality as some of the HanBot ones, but there are a few which are lacking features so it can be a bit hit or miss depending on which champs you play as most champs don't have more than 1 script dev for them.
Prediction was not as 'confident' as Hanbot for me. It can be improved through tweaking the config, and this got it close to Hanbot, but never as good. It's good enough most of the time, but after using both platforms I would give a predicition edge to Hanbot. Bruhwalker is the same level as LS so definitely still good.
Again I need to flag you need to pay for the 3rd party scripts you want to use. Also worth noting that the payments and activations are not automated like Hanbot. You have to wait for the developer to response to your purchase notificationa and they'll then manually activate your key. Not a major issue but it can be annoying when your key expires and the dev is not available to process your payment.
Loader
Basic loader just used to select the version of the core you want to run. Nothing else needed here.
Scripts are managed through the script manager application which is separate from the loader and you can download from the discord. This makes it a lot easier to load/unload scripts which is nice, and it auto-updates scripts too.
Summary:
Overall the performance of this platform is above average, but not at the same level as LS (for evade) and Hanbot (for amount of champs supported/pred). But it does all of them well enough for it none of them to be an issue or massively affect your performance. The main benefit of this platform for me is the small community, lack of detection and openess of the devs. I believe this platform has a lot of potential, just the core issues described above are its achilles heel currently. This would be my go to for a secure platform which does everything OK+.
Pros:
Secure
3rd party script support
Open developers
Does everything 'well' but not amazing at any 1 thing
Cons:
Does everything 'well' but not amazing at any 1 thing
The core has some issues which hold back the potential of the platform. If fixed this would be a 8-9/10 platform.
Sometimes FPS drops can occur
Scores:
Core: 6/10
Midlane Champion features: 8/10
ADC Champion features: 8/10
Orbwalker: 8/10
Prediction: 7/10
Evade: 8/10
HanBot (with Bypass)
Price: 28 USD a month (Can buy 1Day, 1Week, 1Month)
Overview:
Pretty long standing platform operating in both China and Riot regions. Instantly detected if you don't use a bypass so you'll need to factor that into your price. Most bypasses are an additional 100USD+ a month. Large customer base but it is starting to decline now as newer public platforms come out. Also 3rd party script developer interest is also starting to reduce as they claim the hanbot core is becoming outdated and broken and other platforms are more appealing to focus development on.
Core:
Definitely starting to show its age compared to some of the newer platforms, but it does the job.
Menu can be a little fiddly to navigate around sometimes and can look cluttered for scripts with a lot of options.
The main issue I have with the core is that it takes so long to load on game start. Often taking over 20/30 seconds to be usable after all scripts have loaded. Whilst this does depend on which scripts are being used, and the amount of scripts you're loading, it still takes an inconvienent amount of time compared to other platforms.
Drawings are the basic lower quality type, but overall FPS is fine.
Orbwalker:
Orbwalker is average. I believe some scripts alter it, but overall it is not on the same level as LS or LT++ orb.
It's better at prepping waves under tower compared to LS, but not as smooth. I'd put it slightly below LS, but with different strengths and weaknesses. It does the job in the end though.
Laneclear is again pretty quick and accurate, shoving waves quickly and not hesitating for incoming allied minions to AA first.
Evade:
Probably the weakest point of the platform. The internal evade(s) are very basic. It will dodge skills most of the time, but you're going to get called out pretty quickly as it's not smooth at all. Functionality is basic as well, especially compared to LS.
ViktorEvade is a popular 3rd party evade (paid) and while it is definitely better, and has a lot more logic and fuctionality to configure evade for different mode and situations, it is still lacking compared to LS.
Side note: ViktorEvade often breaks completely (crashing the game) and the dev takes days to fix it. Also it takes a very very long time to load at game start. Not good for a paid script.
Champion Scripts\Prediction:
Strongest parts of the platform.
There is a wide range of 3rd party scripts available so basically every champion is covered. Often with multiple devs for each champion so you can try different developers and see which script works best for you.
Devs often have their own discords or telegrams which makes it easy to discuss configs and bugs with them directly, and some are still actively pushing new features. However, a few are no longer adding new features as they are focussing on newer platforms so it's worth checking discords before you buy.
The prediction is my favourite out of all the platforms I have tried. It is quickest to cast skillshots and lands them most of the time, even at max range. Often no hesitation when casting at max range. I'm still yet to find a platform which matches this prediction consistently.
Only potential downside is you have to factor in paying for these 3rd party scripts as well as monthly price + bypass. Most of the time the scripts are cheap at 10USD or less for a month. I persoanlly have no issue with this as majority of the scripts are high quality, and offer trials or 1 week keys, but I thought I would point this out.
Loader
The loader itself is not bad. You can easily search and install new scripts from within the loader directly and you can clearly see the time remaining on your subscription too. Its very clear and easy to use.
Only issue (maybe because of the bypass?) is that you have to be in-game to use the loader. So you need to be in a custom game to install/remove scripts, or insert your new sub key.
Summary:
Overall a solid platform. The support from 3rd party devs is what has kept it so high quality, but as mentioned it depends on how long the 3rd party devs will continue to support this platform. This is my go to platform for midlane champs due to the great scripts and logic, on top of the prediction.
Evade is the weakest point of the platform. I have it turned off completely, or use LS instead if I need it.
This is my go to platform for mid champions due to pred and large amount of script options.
Pros:
Great prediction
Massive amount of champs supported
Good 3rd Party dev support
Easy to find and install new scripts
Cons:
Core takes a while to start in-game
Evade is very obvious
Core developer support is falling and could be outdated eventually
Scores:
Core: 6/10
Midlane Champion features: 9/10
ADC Champion features: 7/10
Orbwalker: 7/10
Prediction: 9/10
Evade: 5/10
LT++
Price: 300 USD a month.
Overview:
The most expensive platform on this list, whilst being one of the most basic in its functionality.
Its a public platform, but has had a low detection rate and good performance. Working in Korea, Japan and Riot regions (maybe china too?).
Core:
Core is quick to load in at game start, often only taking a few seconds so it's not an issue for invades.
The menu is basic but easy to navigate and is clean. Some of the wording is in broken english, but for the most part it's easy to understand what most of the options are doing. Sometimes a tooltip would be nice on some of the misc options.
Changes autosave but are lost when a new update comes out which is annoying.
FPS drops are not noticable, if any.
Drawings are low quality compared to LS but don't use much FPS.
Orbwalker:
The Orb is the strong point of this platform.
The orb is fast and I've never had issues with cancelling AA or stuttering even with high AS.
The last hit is one of the best here, maybe slightly better than LS in some cases. It rarely misses CS and preps them well when under the tower. Lane clear is also really quick when shoving a wave, without much time wasted waiting on allied minions to land their AA, it will usually find other minions to hit if it needs to wait. I have no issues with the farming of this orb.
Evade:
Evade is good, in the sense that it dodges basically everything, but its a very 'hard' evade.
It doesn't look natural or smooth, it will do a 180 turn when it could do a few steps to the side. But it will dodge basically everything as it chooses the quickest path, not the smoothest.
If you don't care about looking legit, and just want to dodge everything while the orb is attacking as much as possible, then this is the script for you.
In terms of options and config for evade, its lacking compared to LS, but is around the same as what Hanbot has to offer (in terms of config, not performance), so is pretty basic.
Champion Scripts\Prediction:
This is the main downfall of this platform for me.
The functionality and logic in 90% of the scripts is very basic, and some logic is not configurable, it is just on by default with no way to turn it off. For example, some mages will use R in combo, even if the enemy is not killable, or it will bring you under tower. There is no way to configure this, only turn R off entirely.
A lot of champs are supported, but by supported they really mean it will use QWER in combo and farming, no real logic or config available for a lot of champs.
Prediction has got better over time, but it's still lacking compared to LS/Hanbot and BruhWalker you'll hit skills the majority of the time but it mostly feels like it's just casting on their current location rather than predicting anything. So if they have high Movement speed or its long range you will miss a lot.
All scripts are internal, no 3rd party devs or scripts. So you don't have to pay for additional scripts, but you're also stuck with the internal features and the devs dont seem to add new functionality to champions very often.
Loader
N/A
There is no loader, you just run it and then it will sit hidden on your PC until you restart or shut down your PC. No way to kill the process. But you also don't need to re-open every game.
Summary:
For the price I would really expect better depth to the champion logic and configs instead of the basic support most of them have.
For ADC or people who just want a good Orb and obvious but quick evade, with a secure and lightweight platform, then this is the one for you. If you want anything else then go with other options, especially for 300USD.
Pros:
Secure
Lightweight and loads quickly
One of the best Orbs
Quick evade
No need to apply to get in, just cough up the money
Cons:
Very expensive for what it offers
Lack of detailed config for most champs, sometimes basically none at all
Evade is very obvious
Have to restart or shut down system to unload the script
No 3rd party scripts and devs don't add good new champion functionality often
Scores:
Core: 7/10
Midlane Champion features: 3/10
ADC Champion features: 6/10
Orbwalker: 9/10
Prediction: 3/10
Evade: 5/10
Holyness:
Price: $25 1 Month. Also have 1 Hour, 1 Day, 7 Day options. **They sell additional upgrades as well, will be discussed lower down this revirew**
Overview:
Based on a TOIR foundation, this script is essentially a bypass + some tweaks for TOIR. This keeps the price down and you get a pretty good platform for the price based on my usage of TOIR
They also recently merged with CrowScript so, for now, this is the best option for a TOIR based platform.
Set-up process was pretty clunky: Forums are depreciated, so couldnt activate account which meant I couldn't use the discord link. Instead had to get into the discord via Crowscript link to Holyness discord. The product confirmation email from sellix also went into spam which isn't helpful.
Core:
Loads quickly on game start which is always nice for invades
Menu is looking a little dated, but it does the job.
Would be nice if the menu was a toggle instead of a hold as can sometimes be a pain for when you're trying to change something quickly or adjusting a keybind.
Most options are worded in a way which makes sense, but some features could do with additional tool tips. Some options did have tooltips as well, but not always.
FPS drops are minimal, not as heavy as BruhWalker and HanBot, but not as lightweight as LT++
Drawings are smooth if a little outdated compared to LS. Nicer than Hanbot though and do the job without eating FPS
Orb:
Feels pretty smooth, better than HanBot orb under tower most of the time
Not same level as LS or LT++, but definitely above HanBot and BruhWalker
Good enough for me to not feel any major issues when using it
Scripts:
Some scripts can feel a bit basic at time, lacking config options especially compared to HanBot scripts. The basic functionality and logic is there, which puts it above LT++ for script options, but in most cases it's slightly below LS which I see as the average in terms of config and logic.
However, the scripts default logic, which sometimes can't be changed, does generally perform well. Alothough, it would nice to be able to configure this as sometimes it's not correct for the game-state.
Examples of lacking config (seems to vary champ to champ):
- Sometimes not able to choose lane clear spells
- Sometimes not able to choose minions hit when using lane clear
- Sometimes lack of blacklist champions for using spells on gap closers or channels
- All script are internal, no option to purchase additional 3rd party scripts.
Prediction:
Generally good enough predicition for mages, you'll hit most of your spells as long as you aren't trying to do anything crazy.
Not at the same level as HanBot. Prediction feels similar to LS which makes it good enough for me in most cases.
Definitely better than LT++ ( in terms of accuracy) and BruhWalker (in terms of speed) prediction.
Evade:
Standard EzEvade plugin used by a few other platforms so it's pretty smooth and has a decent amount of config within it. Not at the same level as LS, but it has all of they key features you need to be able to do control how legit you want to look, and when you want to evade
Does have the standard EzEavde issues which have been around for a long time. Such as not dodging Sion Q/Malphite R or dodging back into skills when you have high MS.
Smoothness similar to BruhWalker 3rd party evade which is great. You can configure it to be a rage evade as well if you want. The default is nice and smooth though when possible.
Despite the EzEavde issues it does the job most of the time.
Loader:
I didn't use the loader as you have to pay for 30 day key to use it, or pay for an upgrade. I don't agree with this personally.
The loader is advertised as containing some nice additional features such as auto-accept and HWID spoofing and auto launch of the script each game. But I can't review this as I don't want to pay for additional features, most of which should be or are in other loaders.
Summary:
For the baseline price (not including the loader additional purchases) I think this is a solid script platform and would be my go to choice for a public and low cost script.
I dislike how there are micro-purchases within the core platform, to me it feels like this should be included in the price. I've not seen this done elsewhere before.
The orb and prediction are solid, especially for the price compared to other platforms at this price
The scripts felt basic in terms of logic options which can sometimes be an issue comapred to other platforms
Evade is great, feeling smoother than other platforms I've reviewed.
Pros:
Cheap and easy to get into (besides the set-up process)
Solid evade, good options and smooth
Predicition is good enough for it not to be an issue like in other platforms
Core is pretty lightweight so doesn't eat FPS or take a long time to load
Cons:
Micro-purchases within the loader
Lack of key configurations within some champion scripts
No 3rd party scripts
Menu starting to look dated, especially compared to LS
Scores:
Core: 7/10
Midlane Champion features: 5/10
ADC Champion features: 6/10
Orbwalker: 7/10
Prediction: 7/10
Evade: 7/10
Best for:
Orbwalker: LS/LT++ **
Prediction: Hanbot
Logic/Config: Hanbot
Evade: LS
FPS: LT++
Midlane: Hanbot
ADC: LS/LT++ **
** LT++ is better, but 3x the price per month. It's not 3x better than LS.
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