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04/12/2014 14:24 CrazyLazyGuy#31
C->C++->Java->C#
Differences -> C with C++ -> C++ can be used in both ways procedure(I'm not sure if I wrote it correctly) and object oriented.
C++ with Java -> Java is fully object oriented and it's much easier to learn.
Java to C# -> C# = I LOVE MICROSOFT and has some advantages, while java is I LOVE EVERYONE and it's catching up C# with the lambdas and etc.
C TO C# and Java -> Syntax may be similar nothing else.
C++ compared to Java and C# -> Decide what amount of memory you are going to use(you can control the memory), C# and Java -> they decide what memory is going to be used, that's the reason for C++ to be used in games, you can optimize it much more then the other 2.
04/12/2014 14:56 hawk799#32
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04/12/2014 17:28 Sn1per9CZE#33
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04/12/2014 21:10 TheFallenAngel#34
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C->C++->Java->C#
Differences -> C with C++ -> C++ can be used in both ways procedure(I'm not sure if I wrote it correctly) and object oriented.
C++ with Java -> Java is fully object oriented and it's much easier to learn.
Java to C# -> C# = I LOVE MICROSOFT and has some advantages, while java is I LOVE EVERYONE and it's catching up C# with the lambdas and etc.
C TO C# and Java -> Syntax may be similar nothing else.
C++ compared to Java and C# -> Decide what amount of memory you are going to use(you can control the memory), C# and Java -> they decide what memory is going to be used, that's the reason for C++ to be used in games, you can optimize it much more then the other 2.
does seriously no one know anything about programming?
C++ is NOT object oriented. not completely. a simple google search even reveals this.

java is object oriented yes. but has many many security flaws.

C# is java updated. has some additional functionality and is pay to use(microsoft).

and your last statement is completely wrong. you can set memory and computer resource usage limits in all of the languages it is in thier syntax. C is the best one to do this with however
04/12/2014 21:28 Mostey#35
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C++ is NOT object oriented. not completely. a simple google search even reveals this.
C++ can and should be used when it comes to OOP. You can use that language with classes and references and you can use it with some old C structs, raw pointers and buffers. Though that doesn't make any sense at all. Why drive an 30 year old car with 50 PS when you can have a new, fast car with 150 PS which is much more comfortable when driving?

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and your last statement is completely wrong. you can set memory and computer resource usage limits in all of the languages it is in thier syntax. C is the best one to do this with howeve
You can do that in C but that's definetely not the language to go when you have the possiblity to use C++. As pointed out earlier, why drive an old car when you can have a new car?

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and is pay to use(microsoft).
No it is not. Merely the IDE is pay to use which is not bad at all.

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does seriously no one know anything about programming?
Seems that you do not.
04/13/2014 01:16 TheFallenAngel#36
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C++ can and should be used when it comes to OOP. You can use that language with classes and references and you can use it with some old C structs, raw pointers and buffers. Though that doesn't make any sense at all. Why drive an 30 year old car with 50 PS when you can have a new, fast car with 150 PS which is much more comfortable when driving?



You can do that in C but that's definetely not the language to go when you have the possiblity to use C++. As pointed out earlier, why drive an old car when you can have a new car?



No it is not. Merely the IDE is pay to use which is not bad at all.



Seems that you do not.

the pay for microsoft IDE is what i meant. visual studio is a joy to use.

C is closer to the hardware level. so when getting down into the dirt like setting resources and memory stuff C is the way to go. C++ is better for some stuff but if u wanna go basic without it turning into gibberish like setting hex's and using assembly then C is what you use. that was the point i was getting at.
the closer you get to the hardware the more options you have when you want to do something

essentially you just agreed with me and told me i was wrong
04/13/2014 12:50 Mostey#37
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C is closer to the hardware level
How did you come to this decision? You can nearly do everything in C++ while being close to the hardware.

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. so when getting down into the dirt like setting resources and memory stuff C is the way to go. C++ is better for some stuff but if u wanna go basic without it turning into gibberish like setting hex's and using assembly then C is what you use.
You are completely wrong. Why is C++ better for "some stuff" and why do you think that C++ can't handle things you want to do?

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the closer you get to the hardware the more options you have when you want to do something
That's correct but the closer you are, the harder and expensive (in terms of time) it gets.


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essentially you just agreed with me and told me i was wrong
I did not agree with you, I told you that you can do that but that'd not make any sense too me. Again: Why do you prefer programming without comfort, more safety, wrappers, libraries and stuff when you can use that?

I'm assuming that you know what the old plain malloc function does. For example, this procedure is covered in C++ as a keyword called new. Therefore, you can move your stuff on the heap as you'd do with the malloc function and some extra operations with less code at the same time.

Well, another one would be the string wrapper. Why use plain char * buffers when you can have the string wrapper class with several advantages? You can even convert that string back to the cstring (const char*) if necessary.
04/17/2014 12:57 Roman852#38
Ak chceš testerov tak mi napíš na skype: bestSVK7.

Osobne si tiež myslím že programovat to v Jave nebude moc mudre ale pokusit sa môžeš. Nepoznám tvoje schopnosti :). Každopádne sa ozvi.
04/17/2014 22:50 buhcska#39
I want be one of this testers if you want. I am from Czech Republic, too.
04/18/2014 08:33 jarit#40
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Make a thread when the bot is done ;)
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