bot of normal people i think must not banned because silk is a looooong game and a legit without bot can do lvl 100 in 6-7 years^^ but goldbotters must die
Restriction Campaign of Illegal Program Usage in Silkroad
06/30/2009 20:01
pagga93ita#31
06/30/2009 20:07
John Dread#32
I laughed when I read that announcement. It's too late for that...SRO is being owned by botters and Joymax now depends on them. That announcement is nothing but words in my opinion...but maybe Joymax surprises us but that will be the end of SRO :P
06/30/2009 20:29
SmileMe#33
This is just for the GNCWC... :rolleyes:
06/30/2009 20:52
Julian2008#34
I have to agree with John.The first thing I'll make when they add this "safety measure" I'm gonna make 5 chars with name like that : IBot_BanMe1--->IBot_BanMe5 to proove alecz24 that Joymax wont ban bots.Atm I do have a char which is named kinda like the one above and it's been goldbotting in clientless for , huh, 6months ?:)
Still I'm feeling pretty safe about the "big ban".JM dont want to loose that much $.
Still I'm feeling pretty safe about the "big ban".JM dont want to loose that much $.
06/30/2009 22:52
pushedx#35
I think that Joymax is in the perfect position to clean up the game now. I mean in the past 6 months, nothing has changed with the game except there are more bots, more tools, and since there is no more CAPTCHA, more reasons to buy premium just to get a spot in the server.
In the past, the argument that "Silkroad is a botting game, and Joymax needs botters to survive" might have been valid to a large degree of people who bought silk thinking they could escape the bot ban list. I don't think that point is valid anymore. The game is still oriented towards being a botter's game due to the insane grind required at higher levels, but at this stage, Silkroad is already an established game that is very popular.
When Joymax added the new party mob system, that was certainly a great move as some fun was restored in real grindings with others. The only problem now is that if you want to continue that in higher levels, then you have to have other people who are higher levels actually grinding, and that's simply not many.
Now, imagine for a second if Joymax:
1. Changed all the packet opcodes for client/server
2. Added a custom security solution like csro or even gameguard again
3. Added additional server side logic to help detect bots and bans were more frequent and real bot bans.
and as a result, ALL 3rd party programs were broken. What would happen?
If you say the game will die because all the botters and people who rely on 3rd party tools will leave, you are mistaken. Silkroad is an addiction that most people have fallen into and don't even realize it.
No, what would happen is there would be a mad rush to find the new working programs that are compatible with the new system. This means that the first people who were to actually achieve this, would become pretty rich and popular, since they would have a monopoly on the game until others came along. I would assume Bot369 would be the first as this is what they do for a living. All of the indie developers would be the ones left in the dark for a while.
Not only that, there would be a new hole that would be left from Rev6 going down if such happened. All their tools and programs would be rendered useless and a lot of work would have to be done in order to update them. I don' think all that work would be done just to get resetup.
As for botters, the majority of them aren't going to simply leave the game. I mean consider all the reasons for botting and all the time and money spent on it. People simply aren't going to walk away from Silkroad once they can't bot like they used to. Just look at the history of Silkroad and you will always fin that is the case (especially during the days of Softmod) They might temporarily stop playing or just login to PvP, FW, CTF, or even hand grind, but Silkroad is an addiction that is not easily kicked.
A lot of people might say, "well I'll just leave", but that group's actions are just as pointless as legits who say they are going to stop playing the game until Joymax cleans up their act; other people will simply take their spot.
Of course, I don't actually think Joymax will pull this doomsday scenario to the degree that I'm describing, but it would be nice if they rebalanced the risk/reward for cheating in the game. It's been way overbalanced towards the cheating side and I really find that unfortunate. I am certainly not a pro-bot person, but I'm not exactly anti-bot either. I think if you choose to cheat, there should be real consequences in place to provide a balance to those who spend their time leveling and those who use programs to do it for them.
I believe there should be an equal risk for any possible rewards for using cheats. That keeps things exciting and conscious of their actions. Nowadays, the only reason not to cheat is because you can't afford to. That's just not right, Joymax has really slacked a lot and they need to start taking more action. When I came back to Silkroad, I didn't expect all my code and programs to still work (barring bugs I had).
I for one am certainly looking forward to there being some real challenges in Silkroad again, as it's been the same old stuff forever now. I mean nowadays what's the point of botting to get a high level character when everyone else can do the same? Botting doesn't mean anything nowadays and it's become such a large part of the game, it's hard to even enjoy the game for any of the simple pleasures it provides.
I'm not going to hold my breath though, because we saw similar "bot campaigns" in the past around GWGNC as SmileMe mentioned, but I would really hope they seriously consider this and it's not all for show.
In the past, the argument that "Silkroad is a botting game, and Joymax needs botters to survive" might have been valid to a large degree of people who bought silk thinking they could escape the bot ban list. I don't think that point is valid anymore. The game is still oriented towards being a botter's game due to the insane grind required at higher levels, but at this stage, Silkroad is already an established game that is very popular.
When Joymax added the new party mob system, that was certainly a great move as some fun was restored in real grindings with others. The only problem now is that if you want to continue that in higher levels, then you have to have other people who are higher levels actually grinding, and that's simply not many.
Now, imagine for a second if Joymax:
1. Changed all the packet opcodes for client/server
2. Added a custom security solution like csro or even gameguard again
3. Added additional server side logic to help detect bots and bans were more frequent and real bot bans.
and as a result, ALL 3rd party programs were broken. What would happen?
If you say the game will die because all the botters and people who rely on 3rd party tools will leave, you are mistaken. Silkroad is an addiction that most people have fallen into and don't even realize it.
No, what would happen is there would be a mad rush to find the new working programs that are compatible with the new system. This means that the first people who were to actually achieve this, would become pretty rich and popular, since they would have a monopoly on the game until others came along. I would assume Bot369 would be the first as this is what they do for a living. All of the indie developers would be the ones left in the dark for a while.
Not only that, there would be a new hole that would be left from Rev6 going down if such happened. All their tools and programs would be rendered useless and a lot of work would have to be done in order to update them. I don' think all that work would be done just to get resetup.
As for botters, the majority of them aren't going to simply leave the game. I mean consider all the reasons for botting and all the time and money spent on it. People simply aren't going to walk away from Silkroad once they can't bot like they used to. Just look at the history of Silkroad and you will always fin that is the case (especially during the days of Softmod) They might temporarily stop playing or just login to PvP, FW, CTF, or even hand grind, but Silkroad is an addiction that is not easily kicked.
A lot of people might say, "well I'll just leave", but that group's actions are just as pointless as legits who say they are going to stop playing the game until Joymax cleans up their act; other people will simply take their spot.
Of course, I don't actually think Joymax will pull this doomsday scenario to the degree that I'm describing, but it would be nice if they rebalanced the risk/reward for cheating in the game. It's been way overbalanced towards the cheating side and I really find that unfortunate. I am certainly not a pro-bot person, but I'm not exactly anti-bot either. I think if you choose to cheat, there should be real consequences in place to provide a balance to those who spend their time leveling and those who use programs to do it for them.
I believe there should be an equal risk for any possible rewards for using cheats. That keeps things exciting and conscious of their actions. Nowadays, the only reason not to cheat is because you can't afford to. That's just not right, Joymax has really slacked a lot and they need to start taking more action. When I came back to Silkroad, I didn't expect all my code and programs to still work (barring bugs I had).
I for one am certainly looking forward to there being some real challenges in Silkroad again, as it's been the same old stuff forever now. I mean nowadays what's the point of botting to get a high level character when everyone else can do the same? Botting doesn't mean anything nowadays and it's become such a large part of the game, it's hard to even enjoy the game for any of the simple pleasures it provides.
I'm not going to hold my breath though, because we saw similar "bot campaigns" in the past around GWGNC as SmileMe mentioned, but I would really hope they seriously consider this and it's not all for show.
07/02/2009 14:32
recking#36
the make it serious now... loaders aint working anymore.
07/02/2009 16:02
Julian2008#37
Irony... loaders dont work but bot it's working perfectly.
07/07/2009 08:42
Low_Riders#38
BlaBlaBla... In the end nothing happend, LoL.Quote:
I think that Joymax is in the perfect position to clean up the game now. I mean in the past 6 months, nothing has changed with the game except there are more bots, more tools, and since there is no more CAPTCHA, more reasons to buy premium just to get a spot in the server.
In the past, the argument that "Silkroad is a botting game, and Joymax needs botters to survive" might have been valid to a large degree of people who bought silk thinking they could escape the bot ban list. I don't think that point is valid anymore. The game is still oriented towards being a botter's game due to the insane grind required at higher levels, but at this stage, Silkroad is already an established game that is very popular.
When Joymax added the new party mob system, that was certainly a great move as some fun was restored in real grindings with others. The only problem now is that if you want to continue that in higher levels, then you have to have other people who are higher levels actually grinding, and that's simply not many.
Now, imagine for a second if Joymax:
1. Changed all the packet opcodes for client/server
2. Added a custom security solution like csro or even gameguard again
3. Added additional server side logic to help detect bots and bans were more frequent and real bot bans.
and as a result, ALL 3rd party programs were broken. What would happen?
If you say the game will die because all the botters and people who rely on 3rd party tools will leave, you are mistaken. Silkroad is an addiction that most people have fallen into and don't even realize it.
No, what would happen is there would be a mad rush to find the new working programs that are compatible with the new system. This means that the first people who were to actually achieve this, would become pretty rich and popular, since they would have a monopoly on the game until others came along. I would assume Bot369 would be the first as this is what they do for a living. All of the indie developers would be the ones left in the dark for a while.
Not only that, there would be a new hole that would be left from Rev6 going down if such happened. All their tools and programs would be rendered useless and a lot of work would have to be done in order to update them. I don' think all that work would be done just to get resetup.
As for botters, the majority of them aren't going to simply leave the game. I mean consider all the reasons for botting and all the time and money spent on it. People simply aren't going to walk away from Silkroad once they can't bot like they used to. Just look at the history of Silkroad and you will always fin that is the case (especially during the days of Softmod) They might temporarily stop playing or just login to PvP, FW, CTF, or even hand grind, but Silkroad is an addiction that is not easily kicked.
A lot of people might say, "well I'll just leave", but that group's actions are just as pointless as legits who say they are going to stop playing the game until Joymax cleans up their act; other people will simply take their spot.
Of course, I don't actually think Joymax will pull this doomsday scenario to the degree that I'm describing, but it would be nice if they rebalanced the risk/reward for cheating in the game. It's been way overbalanced towards the cheating side and I really find that unfortunate. I am certainly not a pro-bot person, but I'm not exactly anti-bot either. I think if you choose to cheat, there should be real consequences in place to provide a balance to those who spend their time leveling and those who use programs to do it for them.
I believe there should be an equal risk for any possible rewards for using cheats. That keeps things exciting and conscious of their actions. Nowadays, the only reason not to cheat is because you can't afford to. That's just not right, Joymax has really slacked a lot and they need to start taking more action. When I came back to Silkroad, I didn't expect all my code and programs to still work (barring bugs I had).
I for one am certainly looking forward to there being some real challenges in Silkroad again, as it's been the same old stuff forever now. I mean nowadays what's the point of botting to get a high level character when everyone else can do the same? Botting doesn't mean anything nowadays and it's become such a large part of the game, it's hard to even enjoy the game for any of the simple pleasures it provides.
I'm not going to hold my breath though, because we saw similar "bot campaigns" in the past around GWGNC as SmileMe mentioned, but I would really hope they seriously consider this and it's not all for show.
Just as I thought, iSRO will never change.
07/07/2009 09:03
recking#39
you wasnt really carefully watching at the update process...Quote:
Just as I thought, iSRO will never change.
they added a file with something about "protection" or something ... i think pk2 haxors here can tell us this better.
i wouldnt say anything until next inspection... maybe they come out with a big suprise.
07/07/2009 10:54
Low_Riders#40
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they added a file with something about "protection" or something ... i think pk2 haxors here can tell us this better.
i wouldnt say anything until next inspection... maybe they come out with a big suprise.
Do I have to say anything else ?
07/07/2009 11:07
recking#41
nothing else than the same blabla shit ...Quote:
Do I have to say anything else ?
i said, that they added something to the client (not the sro_client.exe, something inside the pk2).
do u what u want. but dont cry next week, IF everything comes other than u think now.
btw: i do bot as i did yesterday. so i also believe that there is nothing. but i also say that we cant be 100% sure.
07/07/2009 11:25
Low_Riders#42
I thought your Account got scammed/hacked and you wanted to quit, LoL ?!Quote:
07/07/2009 11:29
recking#43
read my signature.Quote:
07/07/2009 11:31
Low_Riders#44
Yeah... Whatever... LoL.Quote:
07/07/2009 11:34
recking#45
i traded my char vs another.Quote:
he took mine, and after an hour he took his one with an trick back.
so i tricked a bit, too. And now its mine.