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Originally Posted by tratata67 Hi guys just wanna let you know to dont buy anything from <@1284539724916195331> and his MintDMA , he scammed me for 250$ . I bought from him 2 fw for me and my friend. Before payment he was really helpful but after i made him crypto transfer contact was really hard no response, after 1 day I got my fw but it didnt work so I asked for help he didnt respond for hole next day just saaid he is "busy", I tried to reach him and just get my working fw but he banned me and my friend for the server huge -rep for this dog and scammer

You should upload proof to backup ur statements

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Originally Posted by Krad3z3 In general not related to that seller, but in general sellers that support 10-20-30 games its never 1 developer solo but outsourced to 10-20 different developers who dont even work together most of times. So you cant base your experience from 1 cheat and expect the same with another, because most of times its different developer and completely different project structure then. 1 cheat might be best you have tried, another one might be complete bug rich paste. Thats why even if you have good experience with 1 game, you do full research on another game before you try cheat for it.

perception is 1 dev that offers universal bypass for all games (EAC,ACE, BE,EAAC,VAC,Rico) and more for a cheap subscription lol

If you are knowledgeable about rust anti cheat I would love to hear your take on my situation. I have been cheating on rust for 8 years and never had an issue like this.

I am getting gamebanned using VexOS internal.

I built a brand new pc, in a new apartment, with a new ISP. I played for 5 days on rusty moose monthly (~30 hours total) and received a gameban. The only feature I used was esp and even that I toggled on and off. I used a premium account with 1000+ real bm hours.

I spoke with the cheat dev and he assured me it could not have been his software that caused the gameban because no other users were reporting bans.

After this ban I changed my IP address and I got a new account and started playing to check if I was hwid banned. I played for 5 hours without the cheat and was not gamebanned. This account is still not gamebanned so I have to assume I am not hwid banned.

After this testing I got a new account and played for 4 hours with the cheat. I was gamebanned 2 days later.

To recap, I only get gamebanned on accounts I use VexOS internal with. I would usually say the cheat is detected and move to another provider, but all VexOS internal customers and dev say that they are not getting gamebanned.

How is it possible I am only getting gamebanned on accounts I use the VexOS internal cheat with?

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Originally Posted by Crossed15 snip

Just my 2 cents.

If it is confirmed that no other users are reporting bans and you are the only one affected, then I personally would be careful with blaming the cheat or the provider right away.

Ban reports are always difficult to judge because there are many variables involved, and people often forget to mention important details or do not explain the full situation clearly. I am not accusing you of lying, but from a developers or sellers point of view, it is very hard to investigate properly without clear proof of everything, new from store purchased unused PC, new ISP, clean environment, no previous linked hardware, no suspicious gameplay with AFK hours account, etc.

There are a few possibilities here. It could be something related to your setup, it could be a manual ban based on gameplay on official servers, it could be a specific feature or usage pattern causing a low number of bans, or it could be that other users are also banned but simply not reporting it publicly since they are thinking no one else is getting banned but them.

If you really want to get closer to the truth, I would personally try to speak with other users privately and compare experiences. If multiple people confirm similar bans in DMs, then it becomes much more reasonable to question the provider. But if absolutely nobody else has the same issue, then it is hard to say the cheat is detected based only on one report.

Also, if you share screenshots from private conversations, make sure to hide usernames to protect users from having their licenses revoked.

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Originally Posted by elcrook perception is 1 dev that offers universal bypass for all games (EAC,ACE, BE,EAAC,VAC,Rico) and more for a cheap subscription lol

Source: trust me bro premium edition.

As Crossed15 could vouch for:
His key had expired so he lost access to customers chat.. When he reported this ban and with rust being our Main product, I immediately gave him temporary roles back and I asked him to ask in customer chat if anyone could shed a light on this. This shows we DO NOT want to hide bans and we value our customers' security... I imagine other providers woud brush it off and try to silence him.. In our case, it was done for these 2 following reasons:
- 1. I wanted others to report bans incase they have kept it quiet (although in vexos we are very transparent and don't like hiding anything so people don't tend to be scared for reporting bans/issues).
- 2. I do not have the correct "knowledge" when it comes to how Rust bans as I don't have experience with rust bans and maybe more experienced cheaters could help him out


As I stated in chat, and this user can confirm, I asked others to speak up and if there were more bans, we would take the product offline to debug... But no, they said it was okay. We have had a total of 4x ban reports in the last 2 weeks (out of now 71 active users). It is something we are keeping a close eye on tho as we have been UD now for coming up to 16 months so it has been a good run. Since there has been 4 reports, we are taking these bans a little more serious but we are yet to experience what this user is experiencing...

What I can say is that his IP has not changed from his first or second ban, nor HWID (as I can see from auth logs) and his last install date was a while ago. I can also see that he has been banned a total of two times" and not what was expressed, "I keep getting constant bans"...

As I said to him in tickets, and in chat (and as others recommended too) was for him to change his IP, spoof and/or reinstall and test after that. Unfortunately, I can't help out much here as like I had previously stated, I have 0 experience on how Rust bans work etc as it was something I didn't have to worry about before (and I hope we don't need to now).

I hope someone can help him as we don't like when a user has a negative experience using our software.



Regards

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Originally Posted by Krad3z3 Just my 2 cents. If it is confirmed that no other users are reporting bans and you are the only one affected, then I personally would be careful with blaming the cheat or the provider right away. Ban reports are always difficult to judge because there are many variables involved, and people often forget to mention important details or do not explain the full situation clearly. I am not accusing you of lying, but from a developers or sellers point of view, it is very hard to investigate properly without clear proof of everything, new from store purchased unused PC, new ISP, clean environment, no previous linked hardware, no suspicious gameplay with AFK hours account, etc. There are a few possibilities here. It could be something related to your setup, it could be a manual ban based on gameplay on official servers, it could be a specific feature or usage pattern causing a low number of bans, or it could be that other users are also banned but simply not reporting it publicly since they are thinking no one else is getting banned but them. If you really want to get closer to the truth, I would personally try to speak with other users privately and compare experiences. If multiple people confirm similar bans in DMs, then it becomes much more reasonable to question the provider. But if absolutely nobody else has the same issue, then it is hard to say the cheat is detected based only on one report. Also, if you share screenshots from private conversations, make sure to hide usernames to protect users from having their licenses revoked. Source: trust me bro premium edition.

How about you take 2 seconds to look up perception.cx Lol

And as always, kernaim deleting bad reviews lmao

In any case, what would you boys recommend? I was thinking of going to Aim Master

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Originally Posted by Shunrai And as always, kernaim deleting bad reviews

Well this has to do with rules, negative review belongs to sellers thread with proof attached. No proof, false accusation. That protects both seller and customers. Cant disagree with staff on that one. Sometimes seller is really at fault and you have no proof because you didnt think of taking screenshots when it was needed, sometimes customers make shit up to try and create drama.

If you have any screenshots or any proof, post it and you will see post will stay online.

However I dont disagree with your post.

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Originally Posted by GrandpaVex As Crossed15 could vouch for: His key had expired so he lost access to customers chat.. When he reported this ban and with rust being our Main product, I immediately gave him temporary roles back and I asked him to ask in customer chat if anyone could shed a light on this. This shows we DO NOT want to hide bans and we value our customers' security... I imagine other providers woud brush it off and try to silence him.. In our case, it was done for these 2 following reasons: - 1. I wanted others to report bans incase they have kept it quiet (although in vexos we are very transparent and don't like hiding anything so people don't tend to be scared for reporting bans/issues). - 2. I do not have the correct "knowledge" when it comes to how Rust bans as I don't have experience with rust bans and maybe more experienced cheaters could help him out As I stated in chat, and this user can confirm, I asked others to speak up and if there were more bans, we would take the product offline to debug... But no, they said it was okay. We have had a total of 4x ban reports in the last 2 weeks (out of now 71 active users). It is something we are keeping a close eye on tho as we have been UD now for coming up to 16 months so it has been a good run. Since there has been 4 reports, we are taking these bans a little more serious but we are yet to experience what this user is experiencing... What I can say is that his IP has not changed from his first or second ban, nor HWID (as I can see from auth logs) and his last install date was a while ago. I can also see that he has been banned a total of two times" and not what was expressed, "I keep getting constant bans"... As I said to him in tickets, and in chat (and as others recommended too) was for him to change his IP, spoof and/or reinstall and test after that. Unfortunately, I can't help out much here as like I had previously stated, I have 0 experience on how Rust bans work etc as it was something I didn't have to worry about before (and I hope we don't need to now). I hope someone can help him as we don't like when a user has a negative experience using our software. Regards

I am still not gamebanned on the account I did not load the cheat on. I will use another cheat that is for sure undetected and see if I get gamebanned. I will let you know the result.

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Originally Posted by GrandpaVex As Crossed15 could vouch for: His key had expired so he lost access to customers chat.. When he reported this ban and with rust being our Main product, I immediately gave him temporary roles back and I asked him to ask in customer chat if anyone could shed a light on this. This shows we DO NOT want to hide bans and we value our customers' security... I imagine other providers woud brush it off and try to silence him.. In our case, it was done for these 2 following reasons: - 1. I wanted others to report bans incase they have kept it quiet (although in vexos we are very transparent and don't like hiding anything so people don't tend to be scared for reporting bans/issues). - 2. I do not have the correct "knowledge" when it comes to how Rust bans as I don't have experience with rust bans and maybe more experienced cheaters could help him out As I stated in chat, and this user can confirm, I asked others to speak up and if there were more bans, we would take the product offline to debug... But no, they said it was okay. We have had a total of 4x ban reports in the last 2 weeks (out of now 71 active users). It is something we are keeping a close eye on tho as we have been UD now for coming up to 16 months so it has been a good run. Since there has been 4 reports, we are taking these bans a little more serious but we are yet to experience what this user is experiencing... What I can say is that his IP has not changed from his first or second ban, nor HWID (as I can see from auth logs) and his last install date was a while ago. I can also see that he has been banned a total of two times" and not what was expressed, "I keep getting constant bans"... As I said to him in tickets, and in chat (and as others recommended too) was for him to change his IP, spoof and/or reinstall and test after that. Unfortunately, I can't help out much here as like I had previously stated, I have 0 experience on how Rust bans work etc as it was something I didn't have to worry about before (and I hope we don't need to now). I hope someone can help him as we don't like when a user has a negative experience using our software. Regards

1. You normally dont run VPN until you are done with injection
2. If using temp spoofer he wont change serials until cheat is loaded

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Originally Posted by Crossed15 I am still not gamebanned on the account I did not load the cheat on. I will use another cheat that is for sure undetected and see if I get gamebanned. I will let you know the result.

Are you using some sort of a spoofer? Otherwise you have a massive user issue

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Originally Posted by theminkman You normally dont run VPN until you are done with injection If using temp spoofer he wont change serials until cheat is loaded Are you using some sort of a spoofer? Otherwise you have a massive user issue

I do not understand. Why do I need to use a spoofer if I can play rust without getting a gameban. I only get a gameban when I use the cheat, if I play legit I dont get gamebanned therefore Im not hwid banned.

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Originally Posted by Crossed15 I am still not gamebanned on the account I did not load the cheat on. I will use another cheat that is for sure undetected and see if I get gamebanned. I will let you know the result.

A short note; you should check for report ban as well. Running cheats will get you reported way faster than without. But im sure you already know that :)

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Originally Posted by Shunrai And as always, kernaim deleting bad reviews lmao

yeah they always do especially if you do not have a verified trade nor have backup of their chatlog in their little support box on their website and they do not have a way for you to save transcript of support given. scummy provider with scummy support/devs but they pay heavily for stickies/ads for epvp so i guess that keeps them around pretty sure this post will get deleted too cause they gonna cry to the mods. they give you extra days on your sub if you vouch good things for em too so yeah thats why they have so many of em lmao.

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Originally Posted by Crossed15 I do not understand. Why do I need to use a spoofer if I can play rust without getting a gameban. I only get a gameban when I use the cheat, if I play legit I dont get gamebanned therefore Im not hwid banned.

hardware bans dont exist for sure

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Originally Posted by theminkman hardware bans dont exist for sure

I did not deny that hwid bans exist. Are you illiterate? To reiterate I am currently playing rust with no cheats and no spoofer and I'm not gamebanned. This leads me to believe that I am not hwid banned.