[UNOFFICIAL] List Of Legit and Scam Providers List

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Originally Posted by Matias5472 snip

I appreciate the feedback, but I feel like a lot of your "anger" is misplaced. You’re right that the state of the cheat market isn’t great, but how is that my fault? :confused:

EC is still good, but they’ve opted out of being listed.

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Originally Posted by Matias5472 I don't want to get involved in DMA tricks. I would have to buy several things, and if it comes to that, I'd rather buy the invitation to NBT. When I was invited, it cost me 1,500, but I think the invitations are now 2,000. Apparently, a lot of people from Chud switched to them. Do you know how I can try to get into Invasion? I couldn't find any information about it.

Afaik the queue for Invasion is pretty long, can't provide a link here due to forum rules

ignite is useless i am having problems and they are ignoring my ticket open 2 no response in either tickets, they close after 24 hours if it is inactive and it always is, useless support with broken cheat.

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Originally Posted by Peter11234 ignite is useless i am having problems and they are ignoring my ticket open 2 no response in either tickets, they close after 24 hours if it is inactive and it always is, useless support with broken cheat.

Post at least purchase receipt so admins dont delete post.

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Originally Posted by !JoelR I appreciate the feedback, but I feel like a lot of your "anger" is misplaced. You’re right that the state of the cheat market isn’t great, but how is that my fault? :confused: EC is still good, but they’ve opted out of being listed. Afaik the queue for Invasion is pretty long, can't provide a link here due to forum rules

I don't know how you manage the list internally, but I think it has strayed from what was intended. I don't understand how products make it onto this list. My concern is that we have 13 products on it, 8 of which are DTC or poor quality. The rest, NBT, costs $2,000, Invasion seems to be very private, and there is little information about the rest. AimMaster has only been around for a month and has little feedback, nor is there a review from you to perhaps give confidence to other people.

Perhaps that could be improved. I remember that before, they used to review the product and take the time to test it, maybe include an image of the menu, someth

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Originally Posted by Matias5472 I don't know how you manage the list internally, but I think it has strayed from what was intended. I don't understand how products make it onto this list. My concern is that we have 13 products on it, 8 of which are DTC or poor quality. The rest, NBT, costs $2,000, Invasion seems to be very private, and there is little information about the rest. AimMaster has only been around for a month and has little feedback, nor is there a review from you to perhaps give confidence to other people. Perhaps that could be improved. I remember that before, they used to review the product and take the time to test it, maybe include an image of the menu, someth

What do you want him to do? add every single mass-resold cheat to the list? every product on the list has been in the scene for a minimum of 3 months aim master has been in the scene for at least a year Their old version had a long run after detection they recoded it and now it’s back

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Originally Posted by vgkz You cant see the scam theyre pulling? $1700 invites, fake reviews from non customers. lol.

Please read the definition of a scam before falsely accusing brands :D
a scam is not over-charging for a service, they provide what they stated with a high price tag.

I keep checking this thread every now and then and seriously I am happy that I quit trying to ban evade or cheat in Rust.

The entire scene is relying on 1 spoofer brand, the only cheats which supports spoofing is the emulators which is (Evil and NBT)

And everyone know that NBT is queued for gameban as soon as you are in asset warmup connecting to a server

Maybe one day :wololo:

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Originally Posted by theminkman I keep checking this thread every now and then and seriously I am happy that I quit trying to ban evade or cheat in Rust. The entire scene is relying on 1 spoofer brand, the only cheats which supports spoofing is the emulators which is (Evil and NBT) And everyone know that NBT is queued for gameban as soon as you are in asset warmup connecting to a server Maybe one day :wololo:

you sir/they/monkey are a D1 clown

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Originally Posted by Matias5472 AimMaster has only been around for a month and has little feedback

Cant comment on the rest of your post since it doesnt have anything to do with me but this sentence is completely false. We are on the scene for almost 2 years now. Prior first and only detection we run nearly 1 and half years with 100+ users as public cheat without any ban waves. Then detection happened and instead of small patches and hotfixes, constant ban waves like everyone nowdays does we took cheat down for several months, got hit with income loss from Rust project and completely recoded our loader, bypass and cheat itself.

Came back online after new year since since then now 2 and half months without any bans or even issues. All updates between wipes are handled within hours with almost no down time.

I am calling your post bs, do your homework before calling out.

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Originally Posted by Krad3z3 Cant comment on the rest of your post since it doesnt have anything to do with me but this sentence is completely false. We are on the scene for almost 2 years now. Prior first and only detection we run nearly 1 and half years with 100+ users as public cheat without any ban waves. Then detection happened and instead of small patches and hotfixes, constant ban waves like everyone nowdays does we took cheat down for several months, got hit with income loss from Rust project and completely recoded our loader, bypass and cheat itself. Came back online after new year since since then now 2 and half months without any bans or even issues. All updates between wipes are handled within hours with almost no down time. I am calling your post bs, do your homework before calling out.

I think my message was misinterpreted. I never said anything negative about your products, I never said they were bad, or anything like that. If you can read, it says, “AimMaster has only been around for a month and has little feedback.”

It's been a month since the new version came out, and I haven't found many reviews of this new stage. I never meant to disrespect you, nor did I lie in my comment.

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Originally Posted by theminkman I keep checking this thread every now and then and seriously I am happy that I quit trying to ban evade or cheat in Rust. The entire scene is relying on 1 spoofer brand, the only cheats which supports spoofing is the emulators which is (Evil and NBT) And everyone know that NBT is queued for gameban as soon as you are in asset warmup connecting to a server Maybe one day :wololo:

I mean, hypothetically if NBT was detected, users would be complaining, no? I haven't seen any users on this forum or anywhere mention bans. The only people complaining about NBT are the people that cannot afford the price tag.

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Originally Posted by theme I mean, hypothetically if NBT was detected, users would be complaining, no? I haven't seen any users on this forum or anywhere mention bans. The only people complaining about NBT are the people that cannot afford the price tag.

From what i can see it isn't detected, and have never been.

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Originally Posted by lort1234 Stop lying, it isn't a rule since it isn't specified anywhere in the rules and have never been, it's a made up rule from the staff team on how they wanna see these kind of list's maintained, to have the most traffic on the Internet, this was directly confirmed by the admin Luke not long ago.

Luke told me 2+ years ago if someone wishes to not be on the list then they can’t be put on the list.

It’s a ridiculous rule, bc even if someone is scamming they can just ask to not be shown.

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Originally Posted by Relentless Luke told me 2+ years ago if someone wishes to not be on the list then they can’t be put on the list. It’s a ridiculous rule, bc even if someone is scamming they can just ask to not be shown.

Well if it isn't showing anywhere as a rule, it's not a specified as a rule, but instead an opinion.

The thing with rules is that they have to be transparrent & also viewable for the people they are affecting. (epvp users and people maintaining these kind of lists)

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I agree with it being a bad rule and it makes the whole point of this forum (especially these "legit" & "scam" lists..) untrustworthy, biased & manipulated.

The fact is that the staff members of epvp care more about how they earn money/revenue, than having a open & transparrent forum, where users can use the information there is on it, and this was directly confirmed by Luke also.

As multiple users have pointed out by now, this list is useless and contains more misinformation/unknown information than actual information that are use full.

And any one that might have doubted my "credibility", can thing about how the list is being maintain now and by who and what kind of credibility "they" are showing now.. (At least i publicly explained why i wasn't going to be a part of this "scheme")

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Originally Posted by lort1234 Well if it isn't showing anywhere as a rule, it's not a specified as a rule, but instead an opinion. The thing with rules is that they have to be transparrent & also viewable for the people they are affecting. (epvp users and people maintaining these kind of lists) ---- I agree with it being a bad rule and it makes the whole point of this forum (especially these "legit" & "scam" lists..) untrustworthy, biased & manipulated. The fact is that the staff members of epvp care more about how they earn money/revenue, than having a open & transparrent forum, where users can use the information there is on it, and this was directly confirmed by Luke also. As multiple users have pointed out by now, this list is useless and contains more misinformation/unknown information than actual information that are use full. And any one that might have doubted my "credibility", can thing about how the list is being maintain now and by who and what kind of credibility "they" are showing now.. (At least i publicly explained why i wasn't going to be a part of this "scheme")

yeah i totally get what your saying and i agree, but at the end of the day this forum is just a business. It sucks but i respect it, gotta make your money somehow