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Can I add my DMA product to the list?
Can I add my DMA product to the list?
Just ask provider when last detection? or usually non-scam providers have history of detection for each productQuote:
We really need a “last detected” column.
But have a system where a screenshot or screen record of your account and email ban message is required. Showing both ban messages both ingame and in your email inbox.
It would be the easiest thing in the world to implement.Quote:
Just ask provider when last detection? or usually non-scam providers have history of detection for each product
Just go with trusted provider, ask him when the was latest detection, then ask people on epvp if it's true, and go with this provider.Quote:
It would be the easiest thing in the world to implement.
And keeps the developers in check.
Up to the OP to put it in if they want it to become a reality.
Right now, new users have zero way to navigate between similar products.
Only a purchase and time spent with the software will grant any insight. And many users don’t have the time or resources to try each and every one.
A forum like epvp is exactly the place where we keep developers accountable for their product. With our feedback. In black and white, archived here for future users to use as reference.
The rules may need revising in that case. As they no longer maintain a neutral forum experience for both sellers and buyers.Quote:
You could do that yea by taking uncropped screenshots or videos of the cheats telegram/discord server showing many people complaining about bans or the dev itself making a statement about detection.
Complete nonsense. We just enforce the rules which none of you guys seem to read or understand.
What? Negative feedback is allowed. You just need to read and follow the feedback rules, which can be found in any selling thread at the very end of the thread below the quick reply box (which most people use).Quote:
The rules may need revising in that case. As they no longer maintain a neutral forum experience for both sellers and buyers.
As they stand, the rules heavily favor sellers. And any disputes or concerns addressed by user feedback are always removed.
If users are allowed to post feedback directly in sales threads, the developers will have no choice but to address those concerns openly. Which has positive effects for both their own products and potential buyers who will come after.
At the moment, the instant any feedback is posted, if it is not fully positive in nature, the seller has the option to scrub it off their thread with the help of moderators. That's not the healthiest interaction for a forum. And promotes shady sales behavior.
Which i understand, but they end up being deleted as "spam" Alot of posts end up getting deleted if its negative. Mind you there should be some general respect to your negative review not just hey this is trash, fu.. that sorta thing.Quote:
What? Negative feedback is allowed. You just need to read and follow the feedback rules, which can be found in any selling thread at the very end of the thread below the quick reply box (which most people use).
Lets be honest, any review that claim a product is detected when it is, is gonna be removed by mods if owner wants to hide detection and report it as a spam. No matter how you phrase it + you recieve a free warning.Quote:
What? Negative feedback is allowed. You just need to read and follow the feedback rules, which can be found in any selling thread at the very end of the thread below the quick reply box (which most people use).
A lot of good cheat developers don't have the time to promote their cheat on here, so their resellers do instead. Dep Shop and Serenity/ancient providers as well.Quote:
In terms of additional cleanup needed. Reseller threads need to go. They serve only to clutter the black market sections of the forum. And confuse buyers when support is needed eventually.
There is zero issue in finding out about products that are offered. So a reseller has no place in this industry as long as the forums are organized enough for end users to do their own browsing.
Hey Minas2003,Quote:
Klar is detected
Regardless, the list is for actual providers, not resellers, so @[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] should remove them.Quote:
A lot of good cheat developers don't have the time to promote their cheat on here, so their resellers do instead. Dep Shop and Serenity/ancient providers as well.
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Hey Minas2003,
Klar is not detected. If you're struggling with stat bans, we recommend using Safe Mode—it helps keep your stats within safe limits to avoid automated bans.
You can also join our Discord, where our large, active community shares advice on how to avoid bans and optimize settings. Let us know if you need any help!
Regardless, the list is for actual providers, not resellers, so @[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] should remove them.
Klar isn't detected. I'm still on a complimentary 1 week trial key and have been playing everyday until the key is over. It's been 3 days and I have not been banned.Quote:
Klar is detected
After talking to Klar and some of his reps on this for transparency as I strive for in this community, I was given an opportunity to try it. I have mentioned it seems that having a certain rep or sponsorship you tend to get away with things. I do not agree to that. However, when I was reached out to try Klar, I said no and wanted to wait for a response from a dev or someone about the recent issues, and I was. Now given the nature of how marvels is and how easily you can get banned from even one report it's understandable that stats, rage and a bunch of stuff can get you hooked. With all that said, Not once was I banned from injecting with klar. I had a little bit of money left and bought separate accounts ONLY used with klar, both are active. Not one ban, after 10+ games. I have not given a review yet, I was offered a key after lots of talking with staff to try for my self. So feel free to take it how you want.Quote:
Klar is detected
Nah I am not taking the it's not detected when it clearly is. An undetected product that I have encountered so far was Shadows and Midnight. Midnight was better than Shadows in terms of features and the ability to save your config for every separate hero. Midnight got hit with a ban wave though and they got detected. With Midnight I had 3 rage accounts, FULL rage and yet up until the detection day none of them got hit with a manual ban I was stacking up at least 2-3 reports every game and all 3 were in diamond/gm. Same thing is happening with Klar users, you cannot just blame the user for using "rage" features or say oh you got manual banned. Just be honest with your community and you will go far.Quote:
Hey Minas2003,
Klar is not detected. If you're struggling with stat bans, we recommend using Safe Mode—it helps keep your stats within safe limits to avoid automated bans.
You can also join our Discord, where our large, active community shares advice on how to avoid bans and optimize settings. Let us know if you need any help!
Regardless, the list is for actual providers, not resellers, so @[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] should remove them.
Did you not read the two posts above your message?Quote:
Nah I am not taking the it's not detected when it clearly is. An undetected product that I have encountered so far was Shadows and Midnight. Midnight was better than Shadows in terms of features and the ability to save your config for every separate hero. Midnight got hit with a ban wave though and they got detected. With Midnight I had 3 rage accounts, FULL rage and yet up until the detection day none of them got hit with a manual ban I was stacking up at least 2-3 reports every game and all 3 were in diamond/gm. Same thing is happening with Klar users, you cannot just blame the user for using "rage" features or say oh you got manual banned. Just be honest with your community and you will go far.