[UNOFFICIAL] List Of Legit and Scam Providers List

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Originally Posted by lort1234 Maybe, as of now it will be like this.

Just add your Tier system back, you are allowed

chud is dtc again. i got banned again and alot users to.
pls update the list i used ec before and it was better lol

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Originally Posted by trdstar chud is dtc again. i got banned again and alot users to. pls update the list i used ec before and it was better lol

insane you called EC better then chudvision due it a dtc. i would choose to use chud in a detected state anyday over ec.

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Originally Posted by fednd insane you called EC better then chudvision due it a dtc. i would choose to use chud in a detected state anyday over ec.

You were banned from EC after using it, so your comparison is not exactly meaningful.
If you want to try it again at some point and form a real opinion rather than ranting, message me.

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Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load You were banned from EC after using it, so your comparison is not exactly meaningful. If you want to try it again at some point and form a real opinion rather than ranting, message me.

What's the change of heart will i get the pc nuke build special?

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Originally Posted by fednd What's the change of heart will i get the pc nuke build special?

If we were nuking PCs, you would not be here typing right now.
If you want to resolve your ban, just dm me.

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Originally Posted by DeprimereShop Lort - any opposition to color coding undetected vs. detected?

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Originally Posted by fednd insane you called EC better then chudvision due it a dtc. i would choose to use chud in a detected state anyday over ec.

in my opinion it's not fair that ec has such a bad rep. the only reason i even bought ec as my first rust cheat was because of the old tierlist. and it was great, then i got the chance to join chud and tested it. now i got banned twice with chud, maybe bad timing or whatever. but i started with ec and never got banned, and they still aren’t banned.

so why is ec ranked so bad on this list? like, without the first list i would've never even joined ec. just being honest, and i'm not some fanboy like the chud fanboys here.

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Originally Posted by trdstar in my opinion it's not fair that ec has such a bad rep. the only reason i even bought ec as my first rust cheat was because of the old tierlist. and it was great, then i got the chance to join chud and tested it. now i got banned twice with chud, maybe bad timing or whatever. but i started with ec and never got banned, and they still aren’t banned. so why is ec ranked so bad on this list? like, without the first list i would've never even joined ec. just being honest, and i'm not some fanboy like the chud fanboys here.

i agree. ec has been around for ages.. and keeping something like that up to date requires time and knowledge. people may think that devs are slacking but sometimes things really just takes time. rust is not an easy game to cover and Acus is no dummy. i dont know the current state of course, im just speaking from my own expeirence and on a general basis. but hey, the best thing is; if you dont like it, go buy something else... easy enough?

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Originally Posted by trdstar in my opinion it's not fair that ec has such a bad rep. the only reason i even bought ec as my first rust cheat was because of the old tierlist. and it was great, then i got the chance to join chud and tested it. now i got banned twice with chud, maybe bad timing or whatever. but i started with ec and never got banned, and they still aren’t banned. so why is ec ranked so bad on this list? like, without the first list i would've never even joined ec. just being honest, and i'm not some fanboy like the chud fanboys here.

The only reason EC is marked as untrusted on that list is because the list owner (Zhirty/Lort) was removed from EC after he added NBT as a tier 1 provider and praised their history, while telling us that our far longer and more consistent history somehow is not enough. Same with praising their menu while talking down another cheat that has the same style. The double standard is unreal.

Right after that, he flipped our status out of spite. Nothing at all happened between being listed as trusted and suddenly being marked untrusted.

Whenever we ask him to justify it, he just says "read the thread" and pretends there are countless complaints. Meanwhile, it’s the same few old posts from banned/refunded users. Nothing new, nothing concrete. No detection, no banwave, no issues. Our users are still completely safe.

Then he tells us that if we do not agree, we should report his thread to the epvp staff.. as if they care about drama over a list we never even asked to be on in first place.

Talking to him feels like being a knight talking to a self-appointed king. The bias is obvious, and I’m just not interested in dealing with him anymore.

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Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load The only reason EC is marked as untrusted on that list is because the list owner (Zhirty/Lort) was removed from EC after he added NBT as a tier 1 provider and praised their history, while telling us that our far longer and more consistent history somehow is not enough. Same with praising their menu while talking down another cheat that has the same style. The double standard is unreal. Right after that, he flipped our status out of spite. Nothing at all happened between being listed as trusted and suddenly being marked untrusted. Whenever we ask him to justify it, he just says "read the thread" and pretends there are countless complaints. Meanwhile, it’s the same few old posts from banned/refunded users. Nothing new, nothing concrete. No detection, no banwave, no issues. Our users are still completely safe. Then he tells us that if we do not agree, we should report his thread to the epvp staff.. as if they care about drama over a list we never even asked to be on in first place. Talking to him feels like being a knight talking to a self-appointed king. The bias is obvious, and I’m just not interested in dealing with him anymore.

The reason why Evilcheats was added to the untrusted section, is because i was kicked/banned from their discord servers.

We had a mutual agreement on me being in their discord to look out and confirm user/customer complains, this was my only condition to both reevaluate and also investigate their mass user/customer complains they had about a year ago. It was agreed on that i would never be kicked/banned from the server and simply be in the server to confirm user/customer complains/dramas in the future too. And also to make sure that their users wasn't getting scammed and actually provided the cheat they paid for as the majority of the complains at that time was because of these things.

When i was asked why one provider (nbt) was added to tier1 but not EvilCheats, i answered those questions and expressed why i believed EvilCheats to be a lessor product. And after that is was kicked/banned from their discord server. Since i cannot confirm any user/customer complaints anymore, i placed it in the untrusted section for the same reasons i was allowed to be in their discord to confirm on their behalf.

When all of this is said, the product haven't seen the majority of it's features being added ever since about 1,5-2 years ago, the "new" menu which was promised to both customers and also told to be available "soon" by Acus to me, still hadn't at the time i was still a part of their discord been added. (This was promised about a year or so ago)

Acus still keep on providing people that are getting gamebans with refunds, this is from what i know still an issue that customers have, to randomly be getting gamebans, i have heard from people it can be because of the way that "Hercules" "trains" accounts, and it could possible be an issue with either their IP's they use to train accounts with or because the "Emulation" isn't working 100% for all systems, no matter what it's still an issue some users/customers of EvilCheats have. (According to my sources and the according to what i have been seeing people write about in their discord)

When that is said there is also the issues with mass bans of users/customers from their discord, according to Acus/Devgru this is because people are breaking "Terms Of Service", in my mind it's another way to do whatever you want accordingly to the "rules" they make and ofc no proof of any of these bans is every provided for anyone to see.

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I have defended people what complained about EvilCheats on this list & i have also defended EvilCheats and provided my conclusions multiple times about EvilCheats, as they have now banned me from the discord and taken away my ability to ever confirm any future complains and also breaking their promise, i have added them to the untrusted section on the list once again.

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New menu promised to us 3000 years ago

Are we really starting the beef again. Happens every 5-10 pages. How about if they don’t even care about being on the list remove evilcheats from the list. Since everyone wants to bitch and moan and it’s affecting the list in negative ways..

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Originally Posted by lort1234 ~~snip~~

You are genuinely full of shit, and it shows in every paragraph. Let me go through your points real quick.

1. EC is untrusted because I was kicked from their Discord.
So you admit the entire decision is based on your ego and nothing else. No detection, no scam, no issue.. just you getting removed. That alone shows your list is worthless. I could already stop here but let’s look at the other points.

2. We had an agreement that I’ll never be kicked.
There was no contract, no written agreement, nothing. You were in the Discord as long as you behaved normally. Once you started acting biased, shilling NBT, and talking down EC while pretending to be neutral, you were removed. End of story.
You were not some official inspector. You were a guest. Stop pretending otherwise.

3. Mass customer complaints.
The mass complaints you keep crying about are the same three people from a year ago (Astro, Warlord, Fed), one of which is back at EC and happy.
There are no new complaints. You are recycling old drama to justify your explosion of emotions.

4. NBT was tier 1 but EC wasn’t.
You didn’t answer questions. You praised NBT’s history while ignoring EC’s decade-long record. You praised their menu while shitting on another cheat that uses the same style.
Your double standards were obvious to everyone, that’s why you were removed.

5. Since I was banned, I can’t confirm complaints, so untrusted.
This logic is beyond stupid.
Nothing changed about the product.
No bans, no detection, no scam, no issues.
The only thing that changed is your personal access.
So you punished EC because you can’t lurk anymore. That’s not safety, that’s petty.

6. No new features in 1.5–2 years.
You don’t even use the product, so you have no idea what is added or changed. Half the things you are claiming are outdated or simply wrong.
And even if development slowed, that has nothing to do with trustworthiness.
Being untrusted because a menu update was not fast enough?
You are delusional.

7. Refunds for gamebans and Hercules issues.
You don’t know shit about Hercules nor does any customer. You are repeating Discord rumors like a child.
We show live ban stats and detection logs publicly, surprise, no mass bans, no waves, nothing.
If there were actual issues, there would be real evidence, not my sources told me.

8. Mass bans of users from Discord.
People get banned for breaking rules. We enforce our rules on our private cheat very thoroughly.
Just because we don’t publish a spreadsheet for you doesn’t mean anything.
You are demanding proof for bans in a private Discord server like you are some kind of authority. You are NOT.

9. I defended EC before.
Yeah, and now you attack EC because your feelings got hurt.
Your defense changes depending on whether you anre inside the Discord or outside it.
That tells everyone everything they need to know about your credibility.



TLDR:
You didn’t list EC as untrusted because of safety, complaints, detections, or anything factual.
You did it because you got kicked, threw a tantrum, and needed a justification.
Your entire post is emotional, biased, and built on outdated drama and rumors.

You are full of shit, and everyone can see it.

What's unfortunate about this entire thing @[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] is that the drama involving EC discord was enough for you to place them on the untrusted section but when all the AimMaster drama was (is) unveiling you didn't move them from the list but just changed them to 'Unknown' have to keep the ego and biases aside when controlling these lists as the user base does have reliance on your opinion and creation of the list.