Myth Reborn :: Cap 130|Arabian Nights|Triggered Instances|New Systems|Job-Based

09/30/2013 15:46 half113#3136
Almost an instant dc at login screen but there are 400 players online ?.
09/30/2013 16:05 VitaminD#3137
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Originally Posted by A_RandomUser View Post
@VitaminD

How does Synx stop the attackers from attacking the server's gateway?
How about asking the 100000000 pservers that are up with out these problems that question? OBVIOUSLY they have it right, Hell, ask Nezekan, he's always in this thread posting stuff and he has a pserver that doens't have shit like that happening!

How did people like Ocean stop people from attacking his server when he had ecsro, how did the admins of ZsZC stop attacks when their server was up? How did the admins of THETA allow their server to not be attacked?

Seriously, WE CAN'T LOG IN!

what the fuck don't you understand about that? Don't you think that problems takes P R I O R I T Y over ANYTHING ELSE? If all these OTHER pservers that have come and gone and are still here have dealt with these SAME PROBLEMS over teh past 3-4 years of Pservers being up, don't you think that something like this happening for 2 weeks is a bit lame?

Sure servers have problems, but they prioritize fixing the most important ones first! All other popular pservers have had this problem and dealt with this problem. Yet Synx (who you guys revere oh so well as some sort of GOD of pservers) hasn't been able to fix somethign that all other server have fixed in the past years of pservers being in existence.

Seriously you really need to get off his dick, he's human and fucks up just like everyone else. When people fuck up, other people are going to let them know about it.

Go ride Synx's Dick on his forums fanboy.
09/30/2013 16:15 Veteran1337#3138
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Originally Posted by VitaminD View Post
How about asking the 100000000 pservers that are up with out these problems that question? OBVIOUSLY they have it right, Hell, ask Nezekan, he's always in this thread posting stuff and he has a pserver that doens't have shit like that happening!

How did people like Ocean stop people from attacking his server when he had ecsro, how did the admins of ZsZC stop attacks when their server was up? How did the admins of THETA allow their server to not be attacked?

Seriously, WE CAN'T LOG IN!

what the fuck don't you understand about that? Don't you think that problems takes P R I O R I T Y over ANYTHING ELSE? If all these OTHER pservers that have come and gone and are still here have dealt with these SAME PROBLEMS over teh past 3-4 years of Pservers being up, don't you think that something like this happening for 2 weeks is a bit lame?

Sure servers have problems, but they prioritize fixing the most important ones first! All other popular pservers have had this problem and dealt with this problem. Yet Synx (who you guys revere oh so well as some sort of GOD of pservers) hasn't been able to fix somethign that all other server have fixed in the past years of pservers being in existence.

Seriously you really need to get off his dick, he's human and fucks up just like everyone else. When people fuck up, other people are going to let them know about it.

Go ride Synx's Dick on his forums fanboy.
And do you think people exploit their server?There are many people that couldnt even start the files without tutorials and got a pserver open, their server didnt got such a problem, weird?Stop to talk bullshit if you know a shit.
09/30/2013 16:29 Shane¸#3139
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Originally Posted by half113 View Post
Almost an instant dc at login screen but there are 400 players online ?.
there are about 150-200 players online with multiclient. and never log off
09/30/2013 17:28 james!#3140
I can login and logout with 3 chars 0o
09/30/2013 23:36 A_RandomUser#3141
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Originally Posted by VitaminD View Post
How about asking the 100000000 pservers that are up with out these problems that question? OBVIOUSLY they have it right, Hell, ask Nezekan, he's always in this thread posting stuff and he has a pserver that doens't have shit like that happening!

How did people like Ocean stop people from attacking his server when he had ecsro, how did the admins of ZsZC stop attacks when their server was up? How did the admins of THETA allow their server to not be attacked?

Seriously, WE CAN'T LOG IN!

what the fuck don't you understand about that? Don't you think that problems takes P R I O R I T Y over ANYTHING ELSE? If all these OTHER pservers that have come and gone and are still here have dealt with these SAME PROBLEMS over teh past 3-4 years of Pservers being up, don't you think that something like this happening for 2 weeks is a bit lame?

Sure servers have problems, but they prioritize fixing the most important ones first! All other popular pservers have had this problem and dealt with this problem. Yet Synx (who you guys revere oh so well as some sort of GOD of pservers) hasn't been able to fix somethign that all other server have fixed in the past years of pservers being in existence.

Seriously you really need to get off his dick, he's human and fucks up just like everyone else. When people fuck up, other people are going to let them know about it.

Go ride Synx's Dick on his forums fanboy.
You certainly put a lot of effort into talking about other servers and making Myth look the worst, even though you want to log into it. It almost seems like you're here to advertise other servers or have grudge for certain people. If you think you got some knowledge of how things work, I got a question for you. When people with access to enough resources decide to attack something on the internet, you're telling they can't bring it down if the admin knows his stuff? If you manage fix something, they'll just find another way if they really want you to go down.

The psro scene is full of greedy server owners and their associates who would do anything to make a popular server fail, you can't get in trouble for doing it so there's no drawbacks. It's just an endless cycle. If Venture suddenly got a huge burst of new players and reached almost max capacity, a lot of attackers would aim for that server. I'm sure it would cause some problems. Even the biggest sites can be taken down by a group of people and you're telling me that one guy can get 100% protection against such thing?

Blaming the server owner for ddos attacks and exploits is like blaming a shop keeper for getting robbed. I would blame the robber but I guess here in psro scene we blame the shop keeper for having a shop that can be entered with enough force.

And finally, thank you for talking to me like an arrogant prick. Really appreciate it on internet when people insult random people like it was their hobby. Making the internet a better place! By the way, I don't even know Synx, it's the first time I'm on his server.

Edit: Oh and I forgot to say that you can actually log in quite easily, just type your id/pw fast enough. The gateway is being reseted constantly to enable people to get in even when it's under attack. Me and my friends have been logging in and out just fine.

~Vincent
10/01/2013 01:57 Timlock#3142
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Originally Posted by VitaminD View Post
How about asking the 100000000 pservers that are up with out these problems that question? OBVIOUSLY they have it right, Hell, ask Nezekan, he's always in this thread posting stuff and he has a pserver that doens't have shit like that happening!

How did people like Ocean stop people from attacking his server when he had ecsro, how did the admins of ZsZC stop attacks when their server was up? How did the admins of THETA allow their server to not be attacked?

Seriously, WE CAN'T LOG IN!

what the fuck don't you understand about that? Don't you think that problems takes P R I O R I T Y over ANYTHING ELSE? If all these OTHER pservers that have come and gone and are still here have dealt with these SAME PROBLEMS over teh past 3-4 years of Pservers being up, don't you think that something like this happening for 2 weeks is a bit lame?

Sure servers have problems, but they prioritize fixing the most important ones first! All other popular pservers have had this problem and dealt with this problem. Yet Synx (who you guys revere oh so well as some sort of GOD of pservers) hasn't been able to fix somethign that all other server have fixed in the past years of pservers being in existence.

Seriously you really need to get off his dick, he's human and fucks up just like everyone else. When people fuck up, other people are going to let them know about it.

Go ride Synx's Dick on his forums fanboy.
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Originally Posted by A_RandomUser View Post
You certainly put a lot of effort into talking about other servers and making Myth look the worst, even though you want to log into it. It almost seems like you're here to advertise other servers or have grudge for certain people. If you think you got some knowledge of how things work, I got a question for you. When people with access to enough resources decide to attack something on the internet, you're telling they can't bring it down if the admin knows his stuff? If you manage fix something, they'll just find another way if they really want you to go down.

The psro scene is full of greedy server owners and their associates who would do anything to make a popular server fail, you can't get in trouble for doing it so there's no drawbacks. It's just an endless cycle. If Venture suddenly got a huge burst of new players and reached almost max capacity, a lot of attackers would aim for that server. I'm sure it would cause some problems. Even the biggest sites can be taken down by a group of people and you're telling me that one guy can get 100% protection against such thing?

Blaming the server owner for ddos attacks and exploits is like blaming a shop keeper for getting robbed. I would blame the robber but I guess here in psro scene we blame the shop keeper for having a shop that can be entered with enough force.

And finally, thank you for talking to me like an arrogant prick. Really appreciate it on internet when people insult random people like it was their hobby. Making the internet a better place! By the way, I don't even know Synx, it's the first time I'm on his server.

Edit: Oh and I forgot to say that you can actually log in quite easily, just type your id/pw fast enough. The gateway is being reseted constantly to enable people to get in even when it's under attack. Me and my friends have been logging in and out just fine.

~Vincent
You are both right. It may be impossible to protect a "convenience store" from being robbed.. but it is the shop owner and staff's responsibility to make it as safe as possible. A convenience store with a broken window cant stay open if they dont fix it.
10/01/2013 01:59 WickedNite#3143
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Originally Posted by A_RandomUser View Post
You certainly put a lot of effort into talking about other servers and making Myth look the worst, even though you want to log into it. It almost seems like you're here to advertise other servers or have grudge for certain people. If you think you got some knowledge of how things work, I got a question for you. When people with access to enough resources decide to attack something on the internet, you're telling they can't bring it down if the admin knows his stuff? If you manage fix something, they'll just find another way if they really want you to go down.

The psro scene is full of greedy server owners and their associates who would do anything to make a popular server fail, you can't get in trouble for doing it so there's no drawbacks. It's just an endless cycle. If Venture suddenly got a huge burst of new players and reached almost max capacity, a lot of attackers would aim for that server. I'm sure it would cause some problems. Even the biggest sites can be taken down by a group of people and you're telling me that one guy can get 100% protection against such thing?

Blaming the server owner for ddos attacks and exploits is like blaming a shop keeper for getting robbed. I would blame the robber but I guess here in psro scene we blame the shop keeper for having a shop that can be entered with enough force.

And finally, thank you for talking to me like an arrogant prick. Really appreciate it on internet when people insult random people like it was their hobby. Making the internet a better place! By the way, I don't even know Synx, it's the first time I'm on his server.

Edit: Oh and I forgot to say that you can actually log in quite easily, just type your id/pw fast enough. The gateway is being reseted constantly to enable people to get in even when it's under attack. Me and my friends have been logging in and out just fine.

~Vincent
By your logic the owner must not take any blame for being unable to fix something in like 3 weeks?
10/01/2013 02:10 A_RandomUser#3144
That totally depends on what needs fixing, if it's heavy dossing, then you need to upgrade to heavy protection, and that costs a lot. It's not easy to find funding for such stuff. If it's an exploit, then it requires fixing and the owner must be able to solve it.

~Vincent
10/01/2013 12:27 Kape7#3145
I don't want to give many details about what I know so far about the exploit yet because the attacker might be reading this.
This is a new gateway exploit released by Chernobyl, which has no fix for now.
Basically, it floods your gateway with packets that doesn't close the connection until the gateway server reach the memory limit and crashes (this is not the captcha exploit).
It's not a DDoS, it's a DoS, we have detected at least 2 different users doing this on our server, both at the same time, so I assume it's the same person with 2 machines.
Can I solve this? Yes. In fact I solved it few days ago, the issue is, when I fix this, bots doesn't work, I want to make my fix compatible with bots before deploying it to our users, because this fix will require our users to download a patch from the website (the launcher update won't work), and I also want to include a patch for prevempt easy abuse of the invisible pk2 edits/bots with invisible detection. Rushing a release of the new .exe with stuff I have to change will deal into later deploying more patches and annoy the players.
10/01/2013 13:11 half113#3146
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Originally Posted by Synx7 View Post
I don't want to give many details about what I know so far about the exploit yet because the attacker might be reading this.
This is a new gateway exploit released by Chernobyl, which has no fix for now.
Basically, it floods your gateway with packets that doesn't close the connection until the gateway server reach the memory limit and crashes (this is not the captcha exploit).
It's not a DDoS, it's a DoS, we have detected at least 2 different users doing this on our server, both at the same time, so I assume it's the same person with 2 machines.
Can I solve this? Yes. In fact I solved it few days ago, the issue is, when I fix this, bots doesn't work, I want to make my fix compatible with bots before deploying it to our users, because this fix will require our users to download a patch from the website (the launcher update won't work), and I also want to include a patch for prevempt easy abuse of the invisible pk2 edits/bots with invisible detection. Rushing a release of the new .exe with stuff I have to change will deal into later deploying more patches and annoy the players.
Finally an answer...Now all flamers can stop there bs.
10/01/2013 13:22 zatirem1#3147
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Originally Posted by Synx7 View Post
I don't want to give many details about what I know so far about the exploit yet because the attacker might be reading this.
This is a new gateway exploit released by Chernobyl, which has no fix for now.
Basically, it floods your gateway with packets that doesn't close the connection until the gateway server reach the memory limit and crashes (this is not the captcha exploit).
It's not a DDoS, it's a DoS, we have detected at least 2 different users doing this on our server, both at the same time, so I assume it's the same person with 2 machines.
Can I solve this? Yes. In fact I solved it few days ago, the issue is, when I fix this, bots doesn't work, I want to make my fix compatible with bots before deploying it to our users, because this fix will require our users to download a patch from the website (the launcher update won't work), and I also want to include a patch for prevempt easy abuse of the invisible pk2 edits/bots with invisible detection. Rushing a release of the new .exe with stuff I have to change will deal into later deploying more patches and annoy the players.

Ye Fix it and Update the Full Arabia Area Then the Server is Perfect :)
10/01/2013 13:56 Quenth#3148
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Originally Posted by Synx7 View Post
I don't want to give many details about what I know so far about the exploit yet because the attacker might be reading this.
This is a new gateway exploit released by Chernobyl, which has no fix for now.
Basically, it floods your gateway with packets that doesn't close the connection until the gateway server reach the memory limit and crashes (this is not the captcha exploit).
It's not a DDoS, it's a DoS, we have detected at least 2 different users doing this on our server, both at the same time, so I assume it's the same person with 2 machines.
Can I solve this? Yes. In fact I solved it few days ago, the issue is, when I fix this, bots doesn't work, I want to make my fix compatible with bots before deploying it to our users, because this fix will require our users to download a patch from the website (the launcher update won't work), and I also want to include a patch for prevempt easy abuse of the invisible pk2 edits/bots with invisible detection. Rushing a release of the new .exe with stuff I have to change will deal into later deploying more patches and annoy the players.
it can be solved if you filter your ip for incoming bytes simple you can create a regedit by yourself and do it or use an public program for it but simple you're not able to do that because you have a reserve proxy not a an dedicated server hardware protection you already reserve all pack from 1 IP that hyperfilter IP that why you will never be able to face or limit your floods on your exe files because simple its controlled by HyperFilter IP sad that why i always recommend an hardware protection
10/01/2013 13:58 WickedNite#3149
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Originally Posted by Synx7 View Post
I don't want to give many details about what I know so far about the exploit yet because the attacker might be reading this.
This is a new gateway exploit released by Chernobyl, which has no fix for now.
Basically, it floods your gateway with packets that doesn't close the connection until the gateway server reach the memory limit and crashes (this is not the captcha exploit).
It's not a DDoS, it's a DoS, we have detected at least 2 different users doing this on our server, both at the same time, so I assume it's the same person with 2 machines.
Can I solve this? Yes. In fact I solved it few days ago, the issue is, when I fix this, bots doesn't work, I want to make my fix compatible with bots before deploying it to our users, because this fix will require our users to download a patch from the website (the launcher update won't work), and I also want to include a patch for prevempt easy abuse of the invisible pk2 edits/bots with invisible detection. Rushing a release of the new .exe with stuff I have to change will deal into later deploying more patches and annoy the players.

One of the big reasons why you shouldn't use proxy shielding, if you want my personal opinion I know a very good company that have great dedicated servers with ddos protection included that is not proxy, also that lowers your costs significantly and allows you to use 2 IPs for the same price(both protected), but you're too stubborn to accept any kind of suggestion/help and this is the price u pay for the stubborness.
10/01/2013 16:13 Nezekan#3150
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Originally Posted by WickedNite View Post
One of the big reasons why you shouldn't use proxy shielding, if you want my personal opinion I know a very good company that have great dedicated servers with ddos protection included that is not proxy, also that lowers your costs significantly and allows you to use 2 IPs for the same price(both protected), but you're too stubborn to accept any kind of suggestion/help and this is the price u pay for the stubborness.
Even if he had native protection, the attacker could simply keep doing the attacks from a different ip each time. Either way, every solution has its pros and cons, but for a sharded application like silkroad there are a lot of potential security issues, so I am more of a fan of a proxified network layout. Also, you need to count in the stability of the actual network, most other european DDoS providers are simply not as stable as hyperfilter (don't ask me why).