[UNOFFICIAL] List Of Legit and Scam Providers List

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Originally Posted by lort1234 I have spend more hours than you would believe i have, but no i don't run NSA. You can never be objective when you have a list with tiers, there will always be things that gotta be subjective and things that gotta be objective. I when i took over the list made a poll asking if people would rather have a tier based system, and i think it was over 80% yes or so to that poll so i made that. Neutral information can only be one part of what makes a cheat a cheat, a provider a provider, there is also the non objective things like how is the support? How is the community? How is the support/staff dealing with users/customers, how is the perception of a provider in the public.

So is this your diary of feelings or an objective list? Hard to tell at this point.

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Originally Posted by astroware You know what, its whatever - i won't use my energy for this. I'd like to actually talkg about something, worrysome to say the least. Acus, please explain why does your bot generate random discord invites to random servers of your former users - this looks like you are ratting or at the very least token logging, with your former staff member talking about it. Now I would really like to see how you explain this away, anybody can make a discord bot, sure, but not everybody is named "its.acus", and this is not a one time thing happening, this happens all the time randomly. I feel bad for anybody running evilcheats on their PC, truly do. [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

Thats quite simple. When you add a Discord bot to your server because you think it is cool, you authorize it to create invites, view member lists, emails, and more.

Its just someones own mistake for adding a random bot into a private server and you even provided the prove for it by showing that the bot itself created the invite. :)

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Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load So is this your diary of feelings or an objective list? Hard to tell at this point. Thats quite simple. When you add a Discord bot to your server because you think it is cool, you authorize it to create invites, view member lists, emails, and more. Its just someones own mistake for adding a random bot into a private server and you even provided the prove for it by showing that the bot itself created the invite. :)

Yeah mate, I don't think you're cooking with this reply, ec users u might want to wipe your pc and change all of ur pws and reset sessions, god knows what this gamba addict is doing

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Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load So is this your diary of feelings or an objective list? Hard to tell at this point. Thats quite simple. When you add a Discord bot to your server because you think it is cool, you authorize it to create invites, view member lists, emails, and more. Its just someones own mistake for adding a random bot into a private server and you even provided the prove for it by showing that the bot itself created the invite. :)

Why make train account dont work pointless feature how to not do this bad and ratted get

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Originally Posted by astroware Yeah mate, I don't think you're cooking with this reply, ec users u might want to wipe your pc and change all of ur pws and reset sessions, god knows what this gamba addict is doing

You are the best proof out there that we dont touch anyones PC.. you are still here talking.

Astro mad hes banned

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Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load You are the best proof out there that we dont touch anyones PC.. you are still here talking.

Does Evil work on Facepunch protected servers or same old as before

go work on you`re detected project loser

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Originally Posted by lort1234 That is actually a good idea and could have been a possibility, but again no one suggest anything nice like you just did.

then an army of ec alt accounts are going to show up :D

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Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load You are the best proof out there that we dont touch anyones PC.. you are still here talking.

my motherboard died shortly after using ec, so did my drives - so who knows maybe u did try.

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Originally Posted by astroware my motherboard died shortly after using ec, so did my drives - so who knows maybe u did try.

:pepeclown:

inshallah EC is best cheat out of all its tier 0.

nbt is snn(not even dev) + chasenelson pasta.

the true geniuses of this thread have come to this conclusion.

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Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load You are the best proof out there that we dont touch anyones PC.. you are still here talking.

Hi you dont need to change any users passwords or destroy their computer to still be ratting them the smart way to go about it is silently collecting users data over prolonged periods of time so you very well could be or very well could not, Not like any user of EC would have anything to take as they are all broke retards.:rtfm:

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Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load So proof now means "look at my thread, there are so many complaints" huh? No examples, no context, just random noise and a few DMs. What if I told my users to message you saying Matrix, Chudvision, or NBT were all detected or broken? Would that make it fact too? The list itself has fundamental flaws, and you as the person maintaining it arent exactly helping its credibility.

Never thought I'd say this, but as a matter of fact I agree.
The problem with this thread is that it relies on 2 main things for information.
1. Self reported status by provider, which in 90% of cases is a lie or half truth. (We'll get to that)
2. The experience in status from the perspective of an average user.

First of all, the list is very black or white. Detected or undetected. However, with Rust and EAC it is never that simple. There is in fact 4 if not more states; detected, whitelisted, flagged or undetected.
The average user will assume because they afk'd and played "super legit" on a modded 10x server for 40 hours that the cheat is undetected. It doesn't necessarily mean that the product is undetected. It just means that there was nobody on that server who can take a look at your data using the EAC panel, and your software was "undetected" enough to not trigger any automated ban. Providers know this, experienced users know this. You know this yourself Acus.
This information barrier is exploited by the majority of the scene to push flagged pastes onto the market as being undetected. I mean why wouldn't they if the average user doesn't know how to discern the difference? It's just more revenue.

I can guarantee that nearly all of the products marked as "undetected" on the list would not pass the true undetected test. I'll say this once for the average users, because I am so tired of people selling stuff as undetected when it clearly is flagged or otherwise but works on modded for 100 hours so fuck it let's sell it as "ud".
Stop falling for this deceptive marketing so the scene can go back to producing real quality products.

The true undetected test is as follows
1. Spawn on a fresh account on a fresh install from USB to a Facepunch server.
2. Kill a few players using minimal features, preferably your own friends who will report you.
3. Report yourself in the Rust Discord via the ticket system.

If you get any punishment for doing so, you are not undetected and it is that simple. If it was a temp ban there was little but enough evidence of cheating in the EAC panel, if it was a perm ban there was significant evidence that you were cheating in the EAC panel and the cheat is detected pending a banwave when EAC feels they have enough people caught in the list, it's just not being automated as of yet to obscure the products status. If nothing happens then you are actually using undetected.

As for EvilCheats being marked as untrusted, I'm not necessarily in agreement. The allegations being made are interesting, but even if true, they are nothing the rest of the providers in the scene aren't doing anyway.
Acus and EvilCheats are from my knowledge extraordinarily transparent about the status of the products, and have been the majority of the time.

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Originally Posted by astroware You know what, its whatever - i won't use my energy for this. I'd like to actually talkg about something, worrysome to say the least. Acus, please explain why does your bot generate random discord invites to random servers of your former users - this looks like you are ratting or at the very least token logging, with your former staff member talking about it. Now I would really like to see how you explain this away, anybody can make a discord bot, sure, but not everybody is named "its.acus", and this is not a one time thing happening, this happens all the time randomly. I feel bad for anybody running evilcheats on their PC, truly do. [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

i actually cant believe what im reading right now. so acus is just openly admitting his discord bot has full permissions and somehow this is supposed to be normal? the bot is literally named its.acus and creates random invites to servers. why would a cheat developer need a discord bot that generates invite links unless hes building a network map of who knows who? this is textbook social engineering reconnaissance. i added it to my server because it had a cool profile picture and now it creates random invites every few days to servers with names like "test" and random number strings. i joined one of them out of curiosity and it was completely empty except for the bot. what is the purpose of creating invites to empty servers unless youre mapping network infrastructure? the invites expire after 24 hours too which suggests automated cleanup to avoid detection. the fact that he deflects every concern by saying "you chose to add it" is gaslighting. nobody reads permission lists when adding discord bots, you just click authorize and assume its safe.

my motherboard died three weeks after installing evilcheats and i had to replace it. cost me 340 dollars. then my ssd started making clicking noises. all of this happened within 6 months of using the cheat and people are telling me its just coincidence? the hypervisor is clearly writing bad data to the hardware firmware during boot initialization. i actually found weird sectors on my drive that were marked as bad but when i ran a different diagnostic tool they showed as healthy. almost like something is intentionally corrupting specific areas to hide data.

what really pisses me off is this man was doing emergency encryption patches from hotel rooms in barcelona and vienna while on vacation. he had to run down from a rooftop party with his family to fix the cheat because it broke. my nephew codes roblox games as a hobby and even he has better deployment systems than this. ten years of experience and the infrastructure is so fragile it requires manual ssh sessions from european hotel lobbies. this is either complete incompetence or deliberate so he can manually access systems without leaving automated logs.

also my cat started acting weird around my pc after i installed the cheat. she used to sleep on top of the case because it was warm but now she hisses at it and runs away. animals can sense things humans cant so this is probably detecting some kind of electromagnetic interference from the corrupted firmware. ive done research on this and its well documented that hardware corruption can affect pet behavior through emf radiation. my cat is 8 years old and never acted like this before so something definitely changed at the hardware level.

ive also noticed my internet speeds are slower specifically when the cheat is running. i pay for gigabit and normally get 940mbps down but when evilcheats is active it drops to around 750mbps. i tested this over 3 weeks with the cheat on and off and the pattern is consistent. something is using bandwidth in the background that doesnt show up in task manager or wireshark.

marcus aurelius once said "the man who must descend from celebration to repair his creation has built nothing of value, only monuments to his own chaos" and honestly that quote hits different after reading all this.