[UNOFFICIAL] List Of Legit and Scam Providers List

10/19/2025 18:43 astroware#3001
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Originally Posted by theminkman View Post
You cannot say it has no connections to SNN or daum when the visuals is 1:1 clone from Chud, it's literally chud external esp slapped on a internal.

Same font and everything, also when I used it I had nothing but gamebans on every single server but I guess thats just my PC having cancer (even tho emulator)

Even their loader is a clone of Chud/QC
You know what, its whatever - i won't use my energy for this.


I'd like to actually talkg about something, worrysome to say the least.

Acus, please explain why does your bot generate random discord invites to random servers of your former users - this looks like you are ratting or at the very least token logging, with your former staff member talking about it.


Now I would really like to see how you explain this away, anybody can make a discord bot, sure, but not everybody is named "its.acus", and this is not a one time thing happening, this happens all the time randomly.


I feel bad for anybody running evilcheats on their PC, truly do.


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10/19/2025 18:43 !nvictus-Load#3002
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Originally Posted by lort1234 View Post
I have spend more hours than you would believe i have, but no i don't run NSA.

You can never be objective when you have a list with tiers, there will always be things that gotta be subjective and things that gotta be objective.

I when i took over the list made a poll asking if people would rather have a tier based system, and i think it was over 80% yes or so to that poll so i made that.

Neutral information can only be one part of what makes a cheat a cheat, a provider a provider, there is also the non objective things like how is the support? How is the community? How is the support/staff dealing with users/customers, how is the perception of a provider in the public.

So is this your diary of feelings or an objective list? Hard to tell at this point.

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Originally Posted by astroware View Post
You know what, its whatever - i won't use my energy for this.


I'd like to actually talkg about something, worrysome to say the least.

Acus, please explain why does your bot generate random discord invites to random servers of your former users - this looks like you are ratting or at the very least token logging, with your former staff member talking about it.


Now I would really like to see how you explain this away, anybody can make a discord bot, sure, but not everybody is named "its.acus", and this is not a one time thing happening, this happens all the time randomly.


I feel bad for anybody running evilcheats on their PC, truly do.


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Thats quite simple. When you add a Discord bot to your server because you think it is cool, you authorize it to create invites, view member lists, emails, and more.

Its just someones own mistake for adding a random bot into a private server and you even provided the prove for it by showing that the bot itself created the invite. :)
10/19/2025 18:49 astroware#3003
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Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load View Post
So is this your diary of feelings or an objective list? Hard to tell at this point.



Thats quite simple. When you add a Discord bot to your server because you think it is cool, you authorize it to create invites, view member lists, emails, and more.

Its just someones own mistake for adding a random bot into a private server and you even provided the prove for it by showing that the bot itself created the invite. :)
Yeah mate, I don't think you're cooking with this reply, ec users u might want to wipe your pc and change all of ur pws and reset sessions, god knows what this gamba addict is doing
10/19/2025 18:50 fednd#3004
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Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load View Post
So is this your diary of feelings or an objective list? Hard to tell at this point.



Thats quite simple. When you add a Discord bot to your server because you think it is cool, you authorize it to create invites, view member lists, emails, and more.

Its just someones own mistake for adding a random bot into a private server and you even provided the prove for it by showing that the bot itself created the invite. :)
Why make train account dont work pointless feature how to not do this bad and ratted get
10/19/2025 18:53 !nvictus-Load#3005
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Originally Posted by astroware View Post
Yeah mate, I don't think you're cooking with this reply, ec users u might want to wipe your pc and change all of ur pws and reset sessions, god knows what this gamba addict is doing
You are the best proof out there that we dont touch anyones PC.. you are still here talking.
10/19/2025 18:54 Yaboiflexer#3006
Astro mad hes banned
10/19/2025 18:55 theminkman#3007
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Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load View Post
You are the best proof out there that we dont touch anyones PC.. you are still here talking.
Does Evil work on Facepunch protected servers or same old as before
10/19/2025 18:55 Yaboiflexer#3008
go work on you`re detected project loser
10/19/2025 18:55 alexpsp00#3009
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Originally Posted by lort1234 View Post
That is actually a good idea and could have been a possibility, but again no one suggest anything nice like you just did.
then an army of ec alt accounts are going to show up :D
10/19/2025 18:56 astroware#3010
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Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load View Post
You are the best proof out there that we dont touch anyones PC.. you are still here talking.
my motherboard died shortly after using ec, so did my drives - so who knows maybe u did try.
10/19/2025 18:56 Yaboiflexer#3011
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10/19/2025 18:58 !nvictus-Load#3012
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Originally Posted by astroware View Post
my motherboard died shortly after using ec, so did my drives - so who knows maybe u did try.
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10/19/2025 19:02 alexpsp00#3013
inshallah EC is best cheat out of all its tier 0.

nbt is snn(not even dev) + chasenelson pasta.

the true geniuses of this thread have come to this conclusion.
10/19/2025 19:19 fednd#3014
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Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load View Post
You are the best proof out there that we dont touch anyones PC.. you are still here talking.
Hi you dont need to change any users passwords or destroy their computer to still be ratting them the smart way to go about it is silently collecting users data over prolonged periods of time so you very well could be or very well could not, Not like any user of EC would have anything to take as they are all broke retards.:rtfm:
10/19/2025 19:32 abu-bakr-al-baghdadi#3015
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Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load View Post
So proof now means "look at my thread, there are so many complaints" huh? No examples, no context, just random noise and a few DMs. What if I told my users to message you saying Matrix, Chudvision, or NBT were all detected or broken? Would that make it fact too?

The list itself has fundamental flaws, and you as the person maintaining it arent exactly helping its credibility.

Never thought I'd say this, but as a matter of fact I agree.
The problem with this thread is that it relies on 2 main things for information.
1. Self reported status by provider, which in 90% of cases is a lie or half truth. (We'll get to that)
2. The experience in status from the perspective of an average user.

First of all, the list is very black or white. Detected or undetected. However, with Rust and EAC it is never that simple. There is in fact 4 if not more states; detected, whitelisted, flagged or undetected.
The average user will assume because they afk'd and played "super legit" on a modded 10x server for 40 hours that the cheat is undetected. It doesn't necessarily mean that the product is undetected. It just means that there was nobody on that server who can take a look at your data using the EAC panel, and your software was "undetected" enough to not trigger any automated ban. Providers know this, experienced users know this. You know this yourself Acus.
This information barrier is exploited by the majority of the scene to push flagged pastes onto the market as being undetected. I mean why wouldn't they if the average user doesn't know how to discern the difference? It's just more revenue.

I can guarantee that nearly all of the products marked as "undetected" on the list would not pass the true undetected test. I'll say this once for the average users, because I am so tired of people selling stuff as undetected when it clearly is flagged or otherwise but works on modded for 100 hours so fuck it let's sell it as "ud".
Stop falling for this deceptive marketing so the scene can go back to producing real quality products.

The true undetected test is as follows
1. Spawn on a fresh account on a fresh install from USB to a Facepunch server.
2. Kill a few players using minimal features, preferably your own friends who will report you.
3. Report yourself in the Rust Discord via the ticket system.

If you get any punishment for doing so, you are not undetected and it is that simple. If it was a temp ban there was little but enough evidence of cheating in the EAC panel, if it was a perm ban there was significant evidence that you were cheating in the EAC panel and the cheat is detected pending a banwave when EAC feels they have enough people caught in the list, it's just not being automated as of yet to obscure the products status. If nothing happens then you are actually using undetected.

As for EvilCheats being marked as untrusted, I'm not necessarily in agreement. The allegations being made are interesting, but even if true, they are nothing the rest of the providers in the scene aren't doing anyway.
Acus and EvilCheats are from my knowledge extraordinarily transparent about the status of the products, and have been the majority of the time.