Cotobo dead after december 11?

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Originally posted by Tombstone+Dec 8 2006, 12:49--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Tombstone @ Dec 8 2006, 12:49)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Peach@Dec 8 2006, 01:34 too many leechers here they dont even try to contribute.. no point nothing should be released here

Leechers aren't the problem, everybody leeches whatever they can get, that's reality and people know this when they post programs to share with us. If they didn't want us to use the programs they make, they wouldn't post them. And if someone doesn't have the aptitude to create their own worthy programs to share, I don't think Choco or anyone else holds that against them.

I think the real problem is that this forum freely allows any and all dumbass noob kids on the internet to join up, that's the problem. These dipshits respect nothing, appreciate nothing, value nothing... Half the people here don't even understand fully how to play the game of Conquer, they are noobs and yet they're allowed to just waltz in here and have open access to invaluable programs like Cotobo which they can't begin to truly appreciate.

Personally I couldn't program a VCR without having the instruction manual but as noted, I don't think that's the issue at all. Having a forum full of complete idiots is the issue. From what I've seen here, no self-respecting programmer would dare post his hard work here for these ungrateful morons.

Epvpers obviously isn't going to change the way they do things, they will not acknowledge that their open-door policies for letting any and every idiot join here who wants to, has lowered this place to a status that's hardly above the Conquer forums themselves. If anyone has knowledge of a forum of this type that doesn't allow nor tolerate idiots, noobs and stupid kids that discourage all the respectable participants... I'd appreciate a pm about it. [/b][/quote]
I completely agree with you on that one.

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Originally posted by Tombstone+Dec 8 2006, 12:49--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Tombstone @ Dec 8 2006, 12:49)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Peach@Dec 8 2006, 01:34 too many leechers here they dont even try to contribute.. no point nothing should be released here

Leechers aren't the problem, everybody leeches whatever they can get, that's reality and people know this when they post programs to share with us. If they didn't want us to use the programs they make, they wouldn't post them. And if someone doesn't have the aptitude to create their own worthy programs to share, I don't think Choco or anyone else holds that against them.

I think the real problem is that this forum freely allows any and all dumbass noob kids on the internet to join up, that's the problem. These dipshits respect nothing, appreciate nothing, value nothing... Half the people here don't even understand fully how to play the game of Conquer, they are noobs and yet they're allowed to just waltz in here and have open access to invaluable programs like Cotobo which they can't begin to truly appreciate.

Personally I couldn't program a VCR without having the instruction manual but as noted, I don't think that's the issue at all. Having a forum full of complete idiots is the issue. From what I've seen here, no self-respecting programmer would dare post his hard work here for these ungrateful morons.

Epvpers obviously isn't going to change the way they do things, they will not acknowledge that their open-door policies for letting any and every idiot join here who wants to, has lowered this place to a status that's hardly above the Conquer forums themselves. If anyone has knowledge of a forum of this type that doesn't allow nor tolerate idiots, noobs and stupid kids that discourage all the respectable participants... I'd appreciate a pm about it. [/b][/quote]
Amen! im teh leecher :D but i do appreciate what the programmers have done..they made alot easier to
lvl after i chanced server (lvled to 120 in previous server without bots :X). Anyways i hope if u make a new bot. Please dont post it on epvpers. Or any noob who has exactyl 1week experience of CO can just come and get it with out any respect or positive comments to the creator. Let only adcanced user of epvp use it or something. Which would mean that i dont get accees to em either but i dont mind cause if the boters keep on minimal I dont have to worry about peeps that just started the game and passes me after 1week.

(a bit of a rant, doesn't have a point lol)

@tombstone - I feel that some people in this forum should just create a new forum, with most of the usefull material thats on here (obviously with the owner's desression). I feel that when you are ... say about 3 months old on the forum, and the Post Moderators have checked you out, then you can release and download hacks. If such a forum was created, I would love to be a major part in it, to help refine my forum modding skills further. I am trying to get a grips with the coding thing to try and not be a leecher, but its proving unsuccessfull as I'm trying to get on with college at the moment. If you wanna chat further about it, or maybe arange it, PM me :D.

EDIT: with the forum, it wouldn't matter who you told, because the Post Moderator would check everyone. It could be a global Private Message saying what the URL of the forum is, so TQ wouldnt know. Also you would need a very stringent warning / banning policy.

I don't blame Choco- 'the ledgend' -man for not posting anymore, because I understand that these n00bs can neither spell, read or search. I'm nonchelant about Partner and 'Tobo, although they are neccessities, and I can't actually gain money without them, you can allways play CO how it is meant to be played. Would be nice if someone cracked it, but there is no need to be pushy about it.

Well, I had a nice rant, thats me for now.

(check the date I signed up if you think i'm a n00b. I remember BJX :P. I also enjoyed chatting to Mr Teenie on CO2 Alpha :D)

WJ64

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Originally posted by Tombstone+Dec 8 2006, 12:49--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Tombstone @ Dec 8 2006, 12:49)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Peach@Dec 8 2006, 01:34 too many leechers here they dont even try to contribute.. no point nothing should be released here

Leechers aren't the problem, everybody leeches whatever they can get, that's reality and people know this when they post programs to share with us. If they didn't want us to use the programs they make, they wouldn't post them. And if someone doesn't have the aptitude to create their own worthy programs to share, I don't think Choco or anyone else holds that against them.

I think the real problem is that this forum freely allows any and all dumbass noob kids on the internet to join up, that's the problem. These dipshits respect nothing, appreciate nothing, value nothing... Half the people here don't even understand fully how to play the game of Conquer, they are noobs and yet they're allowed to just waltz in here and have open access to invaluable programs like Cotobo which they can't begin to truly appreciate.

Personally I couldn't program a VCR without having the instruction manual but as noted, I don't think that's the issue at all. Having a forum full of complete idiots is the issue. From what I've seen here, no self-respecting programmer would dare post his hard work here for these ungrateful morons.

Epvpers obviously isn't going to change the way they do things, they will not acknowledge that their open-door policies for letting any and every idiot join here who wants to, has lowered this place to a status that's hardly above the Conquer forums themselves. If anyone has knowledge of a forum of this type that doesn't allow nor tolerate idiots, noobs and stupid kids that discourage all the respectable participants... I'd appreciate a pm about it. [/b][/quote]
If a forum exists that fits ur description then can you tell me what you consider in your eyes to be worthy member? Because I have not been a member of epvpers for too long so I don't know that is expected of "worthy" members. So please tell me and I'll try my best not to be one of the "complete idiots" on this forum.

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Originally posted by wackojacko64@Dec 8 2006, 13:58 (a bit of a rant, doesn't have a point lol) @tombstone - I feel that some people in this forum should just create a new forum, with most of the usefull material thats on here (obviously with the owner's desression). I feel that when you are ... say about 3 months old on the forum, and the Post Moderators have checked you out, then you can release and download hacks. If such a forum was created, I would love to be a major part in it, to help refine my forum modding skills further. I am trying to get a grips with the coding thing to try and not be a leecher, but its proving unsuccessfull as I'm trying to get on with college at the moment. If you wanna chat further about it, or maybe arange it, PM me :D. EDIT: with the forum, it wouldn't matter who you told, because the Post Moderator would check everyone. It could be a global Private Message saying what the URL of the forum is, so TQ wouldnt know. Also you would need a very stringent warning / banning policy. I don't blame Choco- 'the ledgend' -man for not posting anymore, because I understand that these n00bs can neither spell, read or search. I'm nonchelant about Partner and 'Tobo, although they are neccessities, and I can't actually gain money without them, you can allways play CO how it is meant to be played. Would be nice if someone cracked it, but there is no need to be pushy about it. Well, I had a nice rant, thats me for now. (check the date I signed up if you think i'm a n00b. I remember BJX :P) WJ64

Agreed, i was a mod on a forum for a different game and people needed a certain amount of posts per day/total posts/karma/had to be a member for 3 months/had to apply for private member. It was great ^^ but no matter how hard you try TQ will ALWAYS find the forums that provide CO hacks =\ Even if say 50 members joined and it was an invite only forum and we let the forum slowly grow =)

Meh, it doesn't really matter if TQ find the site.

For example:

how long have we had COPartner and COtobo?
how long has it taken TQ to finally do some damage to disable the programs (Temporarily?)

On the forum note, I didn't mean posts. I meant if you havent posted in the first 2 months of creating an account, then it gets deleted. If it was a say 10 posts a month then everyone would post crap, and the forum would become crowded. I'd just have a verifying system. There has to be a non-automatic registering system, maybe where you fill a resume out, and the Post Mod reads it, and decides if you are genuine. This would mean a wait time, and a lardge selection of mods to verify the posts though. They can also 1st warning, 2nd, and 3rd, and ban you.

Did that make sense lmao?

I still don't understand why everyone has a bug up their ass about releasing the fixed Cotobo on Epvpers. You came here for hacks -> hacks screw up the game. You took that risk when you joined. So why are you worried all of a sudden that the game is gonna get screwed up? I just play double agent, and say that I hate botters, but at the same time saying that as I'm botting.

WJ64

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Originally posted by wackojacko64@Dec 8 2006, 19:11 Meh, it doesn't really matter if TQ find the site. For example: how long have we had COPartner and COtobo? how long has it taken TQ to finally do some damage to disable the programs (Temporarily?) On the forum note, I didn't mean posts. I meant if you havent posted in the first 2 months of creating an account, then it gets deleted. If it was a say 10 posts a month then everyone would post crap, and the forum would become crowded. I'd just have a verifying system. There has to be a non-automatic registering system, maybe where you fill a resume out, and the Post Mod reads it, and decides if you are genuine. This would mean a wait time, and a lardge selection of mods to verify the posts though. They can also 1st warning, 2nd, and 3rd, and ban you. Did that make sense lmao? I still don't understand why everyone has a bug up their ass about releasing the fixed Cotobo on Epvpers. You came here for hacks -> hacks screw up the game. You took that risk when you joined. So why are you worried all of a sudden that the game is gonna get screwed up? I just play double agent, and say that I hate botters, but at the same time saying that as I'm botting. WJ64

haha i'm the same way, except im a fire tao, and i don't say i hate botters, i just say i dont care about them :) but honestly i don't really use cotobo to mine, i've only used it to refill arrows when i plvl on my archer.. so i mean, if cotobo really doesn't work on the next patch.. is there a bot out there to refill my arrows? :D Hahhaha jk :) but on the real note, i agree that evp should have the whole resume thing :) but i don't know how that would work out.. what would the person say? i came here to find hacks? haha >.<

well i would like to say, im a leecher.. im sorry i used chtobo and multi client.. and i would GLADLY give back if i knew a spit of how to do it... but i appreciate the help that yall have given. so when it comes back.. ill make sure to give some karma

Well, I have a webhost that I can start up a forum with this things. Anyone has a suggestion and want to work for it, I'd be happy to sponser.

how r they makin bots not work anymore? changing the packets? well... if that is the case... just get a pixel based ore dropper

I'm a leecher as well; but you can tell the difference between some dumbass kid and someone who is an adult. Dumass kids ask the obvious dumbass questions that were already talked about 500 other times and are always asking for hacks. They are too lazy to do a little research or use the search button. The best I contribute is my ocassional suggestion, other then that I give karma and leech. I hope to one day contribute; you guys are better teachers then you know :D

This is why I say its time for the leechers to stand up and take part. Even if its only something small. We've all been relying on people who know much more...

Its difficult the noobs shoes too, because even if we are eager to learn, the source codes and secrets are well guarded by those who create them.

I don't blame them at all. I've been in and out of epvp for a year or so, and things have just gotten worse. I remember a time back in Eagle server, where nobody had bots or anything.. the worst thing was file editing to gate-jump, which everyone and his dog's grandmother knew how to do... ignorance was bliss.

If Proxy Aimbot is gone for good. I'd have no regrets. I think it is the worst invention that has ever come across this forum.

At the same time, my favorite bot (packet-based autoloot)is also part of Proxy. So i'll miss that..

If they manage to nix the speedhack, that'd be sweet to, but i won't bet the farm on that. It always comes back.

Anyway.. the original idea was for these hax to be in the hands of the few who made them, and those that they deemed worthy of sharing them.

The real REASON (imho) that so many god damn leechern00bs are here looking for the hacks is because everybody else has them.. if everybody else didn't have them, we'd be in the same situation. Even ground. Fair play.

I think the engineers of packet-based hacks on epvp should get together and seriously discuss this.

Some of you may be pissed off at me for saying so, and thats fine.. but this is your chance to keep the hacks that fucked the game up so much out of the hands of the masses: permanently.

I suggest you take them, and run for the hills!

If we really want them that badly, we'll have to learn to make them. After all, that's what you did.

@howaboutno As for fixing the proxy, it will be easy. As far as I know the proxy will login, but with the changes it will most likely have errors.

The errors are the character packet (3ee) and equip packets (Some of the 0x3f1 's). That will take... oh... for a person with a decent knowledge of packets, about 30 minutes, max.
The only reason those were changed was to accompany new additions for slash slots (equip packet) and the addition of the little gem point thing (character packet). The packet changes were NOT intended to bring about the demise of COtobo and QOProxy, but they did indirectly.

Lol.. thats so sad.. TQ doesn't even have to try.

The only answer is open source.