[EP3]Chantra Legacy

01/15/2026 17:56 NPC-Zian#16
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Originally Posted by al3css View Post
Your post mixes assumptions, misunderstandings, and conclusions drawn without understanding how the server or emulator actually works. I’ll address the key points clearly and factually.

First, this is an emulator based server, not an official server file. That alone explains many of the things you interpret as “lies” or “manipulation.” Emulator retail behavior, and anyone with real experience knows that values, drops, and mechanics require manual balancing and testing after launch.

Donations / CC setup
Having CC and a shop configured early does not automatically mean the server exists “to make money.” In fact, on emulator projects this is standard practice so prices, rewards, and permissions can be tested. Configuration exploitation. No one is forced to donate, and CC availability does not invalidate the nostalgia goal.

Lens and reward “inconsistencies” ?
You are mixing temporary leveling rewards, merchant prices, and CC shop values as if they are supposed to be identical. They are not.
– Free Lens during early levels are intentional onboarding aids.
– Level rewards are bonuses, not meant to replace farming or economy progression.
– CC prices are intentionally higher to avoid pay to win acceleration(if you say so,we have the chepeast prices also cc are found also in games while you farm!).
Calling this “useless” just shows you expected everything to scale linearly that’s not how balanced economies work.

Lucky Charm / TOA claims ?
Testing something “for a day” proves nothing statistically. RNG systems require large sample sizes.
TOA variants exist to offer choice, not to “justify” anything. If you don’t like the value, don’t buy it that doesn’t make it a scam.

Drop rates and armor progression ?
You contradict yourself:
– You say drops are “bugged” because you didn’t get uniques
– Then you admit uniques did drop on other mobs
That’s not a bug that’s RNG + monster tables.
Level 20 wearing low armor on an emulator launch is not “hilarious,” it’s normal during early balance phases.

Admin commands and security ?
Testing admin commands on a live server without permission is not “helping,” it’s a red flag.
Yes, issues existed at launch that’s why it’s called a launch. Claiming you were banned “for no reason” while admitting you used admin commands undermines your own credibility.

Also, expecting instant communication while knowingly using restricted commands is unrealistic. Having a baby is understandable but that does not exempt anyone from server rules.

There’s one important detail you conveniently ignored: you didn’t donate anything. You only visited the server multiple times. Claiming the project exists “for money” while contributing nothing yourself is an assumption, not a fact.

You also seem to intentionally misunderstand or have forgotten what a 1x / low rate server actually means. Many players today are used to high rate servers with inflated drops, instant uniques, and accelerated progression. That does not make a low rate server broken. It just means it isn’t designed to hand out rewards immediately.

At early stages, especially on emulator based servers, drop rates and progression are always subject to adjustment. That is normal. Balance cannot be perfect on day one, and expecting retail level polish within hours of launch is unrealistic.

You complain about drop rates, yet at the same time admit that uniques do drop. That contradiction alone shows the issue is expectation, not malfunction.

Another important point: most players do not report bugs, exploits, or balance issues. They either adapt, give feedback, or leave quietly. Testing admin commands and then framing it as “help” after the fact is not proper bug reporting it’s exploitation, whether intentional or not.

Low rate servers are not for everyone. If someone expects boosted drops, instant gear, and fast progression, that’s fine but blaming the server for not being something it never claimed to be is simply dishonest.

Finally, this is an early phase server. Adjustments are ongoing. Feedback is useful when it’s factual and constructive not when it’s based on impatience, personal assumptions, or exaggerated conclusions.


This post isn’t feedback it’s a grievance wrapped in speculation. Real feedback reports issues without accusations, paranoia, or conspiracy theories about identities and motives.
If your goal was to help improve the server, this approach failed.
If your goal was to justify your ban publicly, the inconsistencies in your own statements already explain why that won’t work.
I’m simply pointing out that your server standards aren’t exactly high.
For me, a lot of things could have been fixed beforehand, like the EXP, the drops, and the mechanics.
This isn’t your first private server, and in the end none of them lasted.
Even the fact that you edited your post on PvPers — which clearly showed you praising yourself — says a lot.

What I was highlighting about the CC is that instead of working on that, maybe you should have focused on more important things.
We can still see the BG portal and even enter it, the auction house still shows all the EP8 implementations, the skills need to be reviewed… anyway.

What I’m saying is that the level rewards are completely useless in your version.
500 Lens when you get them for free in the Chantra Shop — you clearly didn’t get the point.

The idea of “high prices to avoid pay‑to‑win” is honestly hilarious.
So what’s next, raising cigarette prices to stop people from smoking? Wow, what a way of thinking.

Lucky Charm tested for one day without it and one day with it — the drop rate was exactly the same.
As for the TOA variants: anyone with real experience in sales knows that this is not a “choice variant.”

Regarding the drops: it’s not normal to get unique loot from normal mobs (supposedly EP3) and get nothing — or almost nothing — from yellow/brown mobs.
I’m not the only one testing this with people around me, so we consider it bugged.

A live server where GM commands are accessible to players is a major staff failure.
You didn’t remove the permissions, so from a code perspective I was authorized.
A serious server never leaves a player with GM permissions by accident.


I still came to talk to you on Discord, even though I could have easily acted in bad faith

About the donation:
I actually did donate — “.”
Judging whether someone has the right to speak based on whether they invested money or not… what do you call that?

Low rates were mostly an EP3 thing before unique accessories were implemented, but even after that it wasn’t that hard to drop unique/elite builds.
If I’m not mistaken, there are 3,616 possible variants for a unique armor, so good luck getting the right stats.

My standard is to adjust all the drop and progression systems first.
Not to use players as guinea pigs — especially since this isn’t your first server. Where are the others? Oops.

Yes, I have expectations, but saying I expect retail quality in a few hours is ridiculous, considering you announced the server opening yesterday, didn’t you?

I've been saying for years that an EP3 server would be absolutely insane, and I've already told you that too, but every time it's 'keep talking' or 'that's not what players want', and in the end today I see several EP3 projects popping up..
Learn to listen and above all be mature when you reply.
My response is based on what I receive.
01/19/2026 23:30 Fleau#17
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Originally Posted by NPC-Zian View Post
ChantraLegacy and al3css are the same person, and he dares to come here and praise himself…
Then he’ll say the server exists for nostalgia, but that’s a lie…
Because he clearly made sure to set up CC and donations first, that’s obvious.

There are price inconsistencies, for example Normal Lens are free up to level 30.
Level 1 Reward: 500 Lens and 3 Combi (in CC)
Level 10 Reward: 700 Lens??? Let me remind you that you can still get 5k Lens for free… so the LevelUpReward is completely useless.
Lens+ = 50 CC / Combi = 50 CC
Lens Merchant: Normal Lens = 750k & Combi = 500k
(and normal Lens are even more expensive in gold)

Lucky Charm doesn’t work, I tested it for a whole day.
TOA 30/60 min only exist to justify the price of the 1‑day TOA.
STOA 50% XP & 20% gold = 2100 CC
TTOA 50% XP = 700 CC

The drop rate is really weird. I spent a whole day on brown mobs and got 0 unique/elite armor. Stone drops are bugged. I go on normal mobs and a few uniques drop (5 in 3 days). He modified the unique drop rates on monsters…
It’s hilarious to be level 20+ wearing a pathetic level 7 armor.

When I discover a server, I always test admin commands and name‑related bugs, because there’s no point staying on a server that isn’t safe at all…
Turns out that at launch, admin commands were enabled, and there was also the famous account: test/test.
al3css thought I was stupid and didn’t know he could see when someone used admin commands, but he decided otherwise. He expected me to PM him everywhere within 5 minutes to tell him about this issue. Except I have a baby, and dealing with crying and running back and forth isn’t exactly easy.
Anyway, I contacted him after seeing my ban. I showed him that admin commands did work even though he insisted they didn’t.
(He said I was a Chinese account and that I injected DLLs, that the game economy was compromised… the server had been up for 2 hours, ridiculous.)

If I hadn’t shown him, he wouldn’t have fixed the issue because he didn’t even know where it came from.
Anyway, the next day I found out I was banned from the Discord server.

So yeah, just another server — and of course from Al3css — who claims he’s not here to make money, yet the Chantra Shop was configured before anything actually important.

I'm posting this here so he can't delete it

In French ^^ " Lorsque je découvre un serveur, je teste toujours les commandes d’administrateur et les bugs liés au nom, car il ne sert à rien de rester sur un serveur qui n’est pas sûr du tout...
Il s'avère qu'au lancement, les commandes d'administration étaient activées, et il y avait aussi le fameux compte: test/test. "

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01/21/2026 14:30 Hokagewoc#18
Classic Al3css, google translate, rephrase tools, 13123120 servers. 1 goal = quick donations and repeat
01/22/2026 08:56 alplayers#19
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Originally Posted by al3css View Post
What many people also conveniently forget is that there are already three clear cash grab servers out there, yet all the focus is somehow placed here.
Then it's a paradox how you can make good progress each day playing on a cash grab server while you can feel little-to-no progress on this server. This is coming from someone who invested literally 0 cents playing on WoC, yet I had end game gear.

Also, on Archonia seasonal you can reach lv 99 in a few weeks without spending a coin.
01/22/2026 10:54 Hokagewoc#20
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Originally Posted by al3css View Post
For clarification:
In the past, I worked on Archlord servers, but they were shut down due to excessive custom features requested by players and then lack of activity ( 2 players online ). The current project is a rebuild of the emulator, not a cash grab.

The Classic server was created at the request of many players over a period of 2–3 years, which is what ultimately made me return to this project. It is built out of passion, not greed.

Donations, as always, exist only to support the server hosting costs, server payments, testing, maintenance, and related expenses.
This is something many people fail to understand again and again.

During these 2–3 years of development, even while working on a very basic emulator, I personally paid for hosting and test servers. Nothing in life is truly free, but for some individuals, this seems very hard to comprehend "again".

What many people also conveniently forget is that there are already three clear cash grab servers out there, yet all the focus is somehow placed here. Even more confusing is how pay to win is widely accepted and even expected, as if it were a mandatory feature.

Unfortunately, this is the level of understanding we get from a few toxic individuals within the Archlord community.

Thanks for criticism , I appreciate that and I will work on improving. :)
If you have any suggestions on how to do it better, I'd appreciate it.
Ironically, your passion burns out the moment you realise no one wants to fund your server, and you cant be bothered to put in the effort and host it on your own for too long. The moment the free hosting period expires, an excuse of busy life style comes along with it, hence shutting down the server with a lousy apology and yet another great server on your record... until you get passionate again that is...
01/23/2026 00:52 NPC-Zian#21
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Originally Posted by al3css View Post
Thanks for criticism , I appreciate that and I will work on improving. :)
If you have any suggestions on how to do it better, I'd appreciate it.
The joke is, my mates and I never stopped trying to give you ideas, to share our opinions, but it was always pointless. We noticed that over the years you only ever listen to the same people — the ones who donate…
I remember years ago we told you that you needed to do something different from what everyone else was already doing, open an Ep3 or whatever, but nah, you never listened. Until it started getting repeated over and over and pushed by other people… And then suddenly someone shows up with the famous “genius idea” that supposedly just came to them out of nowhere, and has the nerve to say “it’s been in the works for 3 years”?

All the same.
(I haven't forgotten that he was pretending to be a tester in his first post here xD)
01/28/2026 11:55 CrAcKSHoT#22
My experience from giving it a whirl for a couple of hours:

So much potential left on the ground. Brother you offer free novice lens, why not the full novice stuff, so people could have at least “free” farmers for LV 30 and below. Considering the rates, this should be the bare minium to convince players to stay.

I have no clue what they smoked to butcher the chat in this one. The Archlord chat was not bad and honestly didn't really need a rework. But this one knocks it out of the park. Everything is yellow and even drops, exp, gold is in the same windows. I just barely noticed one guy doing the Shout of Elemental because it looks the same as the rest.
Please just revert every change you've done to the chat and keep it like it's always been.

CC shop: Prices are more or less fair IMO, yet this game is dead since 2012 so don't expect to make a living off this game. Do it for the sake of keeping it alive or just fck off.
Yet the shop misses a lot of items that were present in EP3 — did you do your homework pal?
It also has recent items post EP3 like the marvel scroll of release. I sure hope this is meant to trade realm pieces and not uniques, or you've done fcked up.

You're limited to 3 accounts if I recall correctly, yet you'd need at least 8 to have one per character unless you want to switch a character just to play another one. Not sure if this is meant for the scuffed pre-2010 setups people are rocking with their garbage pcs that can only handle one instance of the game, but in these times you should go with the flow. Especially in EP3 party buffs were important.

Talking about going with the times. 2560×1440p as resolution is not supported (scuffed, misaligned), brother are you serious? Do you think all Archlord players play on 1080p monitors forever? This underlines the take I had before about only 3 accounts.

If you'd click on the discord invite link it showed created by Calidus, that was a given it's al3css. Instead of helping cmd with his project he apparently prefers to do his own thing. I have a feeling where this ends, knowing the lifespan of his servers.
This also is a factor you should consider whether you'd spend real money on this server.

If you want to make it nostalgic then do it right while also adding QoL-features (like freeze exp which is must-have nowadays). You already made the default inventory bigger which is great.

Further inventory expansion is and also limited duration? Hell nah, I always hated this in the original game — which also came very late and isn't even EP3.

I have no idea who is in charge and who suggests things for the server, but I feel like some of them either never played Archlord or are straight up restarted.

Fix your stuff and you have my blessing.

P.S. The level up rewards for the NPC are garbage, holy nutsack.
I can see NPC-Zians takes and agree with most of them regarding the server.
01/28/2026 14:47 alplayers#23
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Originally Posted by CrAcKSHoT View Post
P.S. The level up rewards for the NPC are garbage, holy nutsack.
LMAOOOOOOOO

Admin: "this server is different because your progress has value"
Also admin: "proceeds to give you the most dogshit level up rewards in the history on AL"
01/29/2026 15:37 Hokagewoc#24
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Originally Posted by alplayers View Post
LMAOOOOOOOO

Admin: "this server is different because your progress has value"
Also admin: "proceeds to give you the most dogshit level up rewards in the history on AL"
Level up rewards have very little to do with the overall progression,
However in this case, as in all the previous failed attempts, the focus is not on progression, nor rewards or the players themselves... the focus as always lies on cc & donations. In this very case, no matter how much support is given, the projects crumble and fall apart when the donations aren't big enough to support this guys day to day life and keep the server alive...
long story short, this has always been a con, and always will be.
01/30/2026 08:41 CrAcKSHoT#25
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Originally Posted by Hokagewoc View Post
when the donations aren't big enough to support this guys day to day life and keep the server alive...
I'm sorry, but living off a game dead since 2012 is a bit bold. You'd be better off becoming an indie dev or join some studios when you have coding knowledge.

These kinda servers are more or less meant as a side-hustle not to finance your life unless you live somewhere where some € a month are insane in the local currency. Knowing they're mostly from Eastern Europe, I doubt this should be the main source of income. Would be kinda sad, wouldn't it?

Yes, you have to monitor the server, fix issues and help players, but I don't believe that this is the best way to make a living leeching off a literally dead game.
01/30/2026 09:34 Hokagewoc#26
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Originally Posted by CrAcKSHoT View Post
I'm sorry, but living off a game dead since 2012 is a bit bold. You'd be better off becoming an indie dev or join some studies when you have coding knowledge.

These kinda servers are more or less meant as a side-hustle not to finance your life unless you live somewhere where some € a month are insane in the local currency. Knowing they're mostly from Eastern Europe, I doubt this should be the main source of income. Would be kinda sad, wouldn't it?

Yes, you have to monitor the server, fix issues and help players, but I don't believe that this is the best way to make a living leeching off a literally dead game.
Form of Speech, but I agree with what you said.
01/30/2026 15:13 alplayers#27
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Originally Posted by CrAcKSHoT View Post
I'm sorry, but living off a game dead since 2012 is a bit bold. You'd be better off becoming an indie dev or join some studios when you have coding knowledge.

These kinda servers are more or less meant as a side-hustle not to finance your life unless you live somewhere where some € a month are insane in the local currency. Knowing they're mostly from Eastern Europe, I doubt this should be the main source of income. Would be kinda sad, wouldn't it?

Yes, you have to monitor the server, fix issues and help players, but I don't believe that this is the best way to make a living leeching off a literally dead game.
That's exactly what I thought until I started playing on WoC. I noticed that lot of players have these new animated wings (which are expensive af) but I thought to myself "well ok, someone spent couple of dollars just to look good, no biggie".

That was until I saw a guy with animated wings I never saw before.. how did he get them? Apparently, this guy was a VIP... what the f is a VIP I asked on discord. Then some guy answered that you get a VIP status after spending 20k euros and that it's not a big thing - you just get some cosmetics like these wings. Admin corrected him and said that is actually not true and that you get it after spending 10k euros.

10k euros???? Who the fuck would spend 10k euros on a dead game??? Then this Chinese guy answered and said he already spent 50k euros since the beginning of a server.....W T F

I know that there are not plenty of players like him, but I do know that surely players on WoC still spend monthly 500-1000 euros on CC, especially now after new content was released.
01/31/2026 12:51 CrAcKSHoT#28
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Originally Posted by alplayers View Post
Then this Chinese guy answered and said he already spent 50k euros since the beginning of a server.....W T F
The question I have is where to you spend all the money on?
I'm not familiar with WoC and how much they mutilated vanilla archlord, but I would assume that one doesn't need to spend their life savings just to gear one character?

There either is some heavy gacha shit behind it or rigged RNG that force you to spend. Back in the days you'd drop a couple grand (which is already way beyond my imagination) to get the best gear on EP4-7, IDK about shrine later.

This just proofs how broken this game was from the beginning with all these p2w mechanics and no-lifing/botting for drops.

Good for them to make profit on the dumb people.

It's even worse on mobile games, though. Trust me I've been there and seen it all.

P.S. I saw ChantraLegacy been banned, well al3css don't try to be smart and do multi accounts on epvp. They are out for blood on that.
02/01/2026 10:50 alplayers#29
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Originally Posted by CrAcKSHoT View Post
The question I have is where to you spend all the money on?
Heavy gacha sh*t indeed. These are only his listings in the last 2 hours, and I have managed to capture 8/20 items because my monitor is too small. Note that one Superior wing chest is 750 cc (~5 EUR) and the chance of getting lv8 is less than 5% so you get Lv8 wings every 20 chests on average (meaning 100 euros at least).

So...yeah, that's where you spend the money on. Not to mention that there are now prestige potions and other sh*t avaliable on CC shop..
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02/01/2026 11:08 CrAcKSHoT#30
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Originally Posted by alplayers View Post
Heavy gacha sh*t indeed. These are only his listings in the last 2 hours, and I have managed to capture 8/20 items because my monitor is too small. Note that one Superior wing chest is 750 cc (~5 EUR) and the chance of getting lv8 is less than 5% so you get Lv8 wings every 20 chests on average (meaning 100 euros at least).

So...yeah, that's where you spend the money on. Not to mention that there are now prestige potions and other sh*t avaliable on CC shop..
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This doesn't exactly help WoC to convince players to join, it does the opposite. No, thanks.
I let others lose their brain cells on this garbage, hopefully they find satisfaction in funding the life of some degenerates in a 3rd world country living off a dead game instead of doing something useful to society. I bet their families are proud they made something out of their life.