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Originally Posted by wardel The issue isn’t the price it’s the lack of actual content. Nobody’s complaining about paying there is people buying GGL 1000$ for a rotation bot lol, the fact is you barely have no one good usable profiles at all, and the few that exist with Onezero 40$ per month are not optimized, it’s hard to justify the cost. The real problem is priorities: instead of investing in competent developers to improve the bot, you seem more focused on spending money elsewhere that says a lot about where your focus is.

Your simply not honest, and I will reply one last time to proof it:

• You praise the guildbank system of another bot and compare it to banetos mailing system, yet you completely ignore the fact that we have bank/guildbank feature too.
  
• You say we are more expensive than any other bot. On our main page you can get baneto as low as 11$, on some reseller pages as low as 9.5$.
  
• Buying onezero profiles is optional. We released free TWW questers, free classic questers up to 40, free grinding profiles for 1-60, free TWW follower dungeons, free pandaria startzone quester, free pandaria quester is coming, free pandaria gathering, free classic gathering, the list of FREE profiles goes on. Not to mention dozens of free community plugins or our rotation builder thats included for FREE.
  
• I was offered to use hacks like flyhacks and noclip, I decided that I dont want to use it, its not a lack of effort. Its simply not my taste. So yes you can say other bots do it and its great, but we dont WANT it.
  
• You are saying onezeros UI is unchanged from a decade ago. A decage ago you werent even born and baneto did not exist.
  
• You claim we were missing vashjir, its not true. We added a "flying navigator" just for that zone.
  
• The bot and unlocker (on scale) cost around 20$ per month, and not 100$ and making profiles is as easy as making a warm bottle of milk for you
  
• Content is not the issue, price is not the issue. The bans are the issue. I tend to think someone who has access to all the stats would know better than you.
  
  I am done with you kid, you dont need to like our project, but your comments are full of lies.
  
  
  
  
  

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Originally Posted by BamboBaneto Your simply not honest, and I will reply one last time to proof it: You praise the guildbank system of another bot and compare it to banetos mailing system, yet you completely ignore the fact that we have bank/guildbank feature too. You say we are more expensive than any other bot. On our main page you can get baneto as low as 11$, on some reseller pages as low as 9.5$. Buying onezero profiles is optional. We released free TWW questers, free classic questers up to 40, free grinding profiles for 1-60, free TWW follower dungeons, free pandaria startzone quester, free pandaria quester is coming, free pandaria gathering, free classic gathering, the list of FREE profiles goes on. Not to mention dozens of free community plugins or our rotation builder thats included for FREE. I was offered to use hacks like flyhacks and noclip, I decided that I dont want to use it, its not a lack of effort. Its simply not my taste. So yes you can say other bots do it and its great, but we dont WANT it. You are saying onezeros UI is unchanged from a decade ago. A decage ago you werent even born and baneto did not exist. You claim we were missing vashjir, its not true. We added a "flying navigator" just for that zone. The bot and unlocker (on scale) cost around 20$ per month, and not 100$ and making profiles is as easy as making a warm bottle of milk for you Content is not the issue, price is not the issue. The bans are the issue. I tend to think someone who has access to all the stats would know better than you. I am done with you kid, you dont need to like our project, but your comments are full of lies.

20$ per instance on a large scale farm? That's an absurd price, considering you can't afk 1-85 out the box.
20$ for a key + unlocker, then some for profiles, then a proxy, then electricity AND a sub

And how much would time would 1-85 take, 20 real days? You're probably going to get banned within those 20 days too.

While with a bot like sin, if you're connected, you can get a russian-cracked one for as low as 10$ in bulk, which comes with a super optimized 1-85 quester that will get you to max level in 2 weeks or less AND has a bunch of free profiles that you could suicide bot for a week AND make money with.

If the bans have increased but the price hasn't moved, maybe it's time to lower the price.

Suppose you get to 85 without getting banned in like 20 days, how long would it take to return your investment, let alone make profit?

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Originally Posted by tamedbeast Suppose Bob from Eastern Europe ...

Me?? :D :D :D

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Originally Posted by BamboBaneto Your simply not honest, and I will reply one last time to proof it: You praise the guildbank system of another bot and compare it to banetos mailing system, yet you completely ignore the fact that we have bank/guildbank feature too. You say we are more expensive than any other bot. On our main page you can get baneto as low as 11$, on some reseller pages as low as 9.5$. Buying onezero profiles is optional. We released free TWW questers, free classic questers up to 40, free grinding profiles for 1-60, free TWW follower dungeons, free pandaria startzone quester, free pandaria quester is coming, free pandaria gathering, free classic gathering, the list of FREE profiles goes on. Not to mention dozens of free community plugins or our rotation builder thats included for FREE. I was offered to use hacks like flyhacks and noclip, I decided that I dont want to use it, its not a lack of effort. Its simply not my taste. So yes you can say other bots do it and its great, but we dont WANT it. You are saying onezeros UI is unchanged from a decade ago. A decage ago you werent even born and baneto did not exist. You claim we were missing vashjir, its not true. We added a "flying navigator" just for that zone. The bot and unlocker (on scale) cost around 20$ per month, and not 100$ and making profiles is as easy as making a warm bottle of milk for you Content is not the issue, price is not the issue. The bans are the issue. I tend to think someone who has access to all the stats would know better than you. I am done with you kid, you dont need to like our project, but your comments are full of lies.

💸 1. “Baneto costs only $20” – FALSE and Misleading
Sure, the key alone might cost $20. But let’s talk about the real cost of running Baneto in 2025:

• Baneto Key: $20
• OneZero Profiles: $40
• Tinkr Unlocker: $20 + $10/session
• Crypto/Processing Fees: $10+

→ Real Total: $90–100/month

Meanwhile, bots like Sin or TTOC offer everything included (profiles, unlocker, gathering, leveling, raw gold) for $10–15 total.

Baneto is not cheap. It’sf the most expensive setups on the market right now.

2. “OneZero is optional” Not if you want to actually play
Without OneZero, you’re left with:

• “Free something coming soon™”

That’s not optional content. That’s barebones filler.
Bots like Sin include hundreds of fully working profiles out of the box. Baneto without OneZero is nearly unusable for real botting.


What I’m blaming you for :
Poor security (HWID bans, no stealth)
0 raw gold profiles
Missing automated profession
No LFG/dungeon profile features
No full 1–90 questing
Outdated UI (for OneZero)
Split ecosystem (Baneto vs OneZero)
Your arrogance
Bad customer support
Excessively high price
The money earned from the bot isn’t reinvested to hire developers or improve the bot.[/list]
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What Needs to Be Improved (Instead of Denial)

1. Improve gathering logic (use Portative Guild Bank, optimize paths)
2. Add proper raw gold profiles (Naxx, Botanica, etc)
3. Full questing 1–90 (all classes, all races) – FULLY AFK
4. Dungeon follow/LFG bot
5. Modern UI with logging, stats, (OneZero)
6. AuctionHouse Profile (like EasyAH)
7. Professions 1–600,
8. Centralized profile system (Baneto + OneZero in one place)
9. Stop brushing off feedback with ego – start hire dev and WORK.

I’ll continue replying to misinformation. You may try to bury feedback, but the truth is clear:
Baneto is overpriced, underpowered, and out of touch in 2025.

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Originally Posted by omnislash11 20$ per instance on a large scale farm? That's an absurd price, considering you can't afk 1-85 out the box. 20$ for a key + unlocker, then some for profiles, then a proxy, then electricity AND a sub And how much would time would 1-85 take, 20 real days? You're probably going to get banned within those 20 days too. While with a bot like sin, if you're connected, you can get a russian-cracked one for as low as 10$ in bulk, which comes with a super optimized 1-85 quester that will get you to max level in 2 weeks or less AND has a bunch of free profiles that you could suicide bot for a week AND make money with. If the bans have increased but the price hasn't moved, maybe it's time to lower the price. Suppose you get to 85 without getting banned in like 20 days, how long would it take to return your investment, let alone make profit? Me?? :D :D :D

To be fair to him, he has scale pricing, so more sessions get discounted by the tier system. However, it's still too expensive in my opinion, at least in the era when bans come faster than they did historically.

I think the other problem is that GMR and Baneto have been engaging in price fixing for so long that they are hesitant to change their pricing models because of their monopolies on the EU/NA unlocker market. And how can I blame them? I would, too; no one is in a race to the bottom, especially if you're a developer who doesn't live in some third-world country where you can live off $10 a month (sarcasm or is it), and especially when you have a product brand that has been recognized for half a decade already.

If you noticed, their scaling prices are identical, and that's obviously by design; it's price fixing. Therefore, the prices are unlikely to change, as they don't consider the projects worthwhile if they were to charge less, and both parties clearly agree on this.

As long as no one creates a new farm bot for Windows on NN that's just as good or better, they'll basically continue to control and monopolize the market collectively. It really comes down to having fewer options, and the reason for that is that most developers don't want to spend weeks coding a farming bot on Windows to deal with user complaints about bans, scene drama, likely C&D notices, and many other issues that come with building a farmbot. I'm sure Bambo can expand on that; he's been doing it for long enough.

So, if people are so concerned about this, it's literally 2025, you could spend a week vibe coding yourself a bot at this point (1 day vibe code + 6 days debugging shit vibe code) and then come out with something working sort of lmao, rather than complaining on the forums that you can't find a bot that's affordable without being Chinese.

I like Bambo, I like Marty, I just don't think their pricing models are realistic in 2025 with the current temperature of the ban vs risk vs reward structure, that's really my only complaint, but at the same time I don't farm bot anymore, it's cheaper to just buy gold for personal use from wow token, or hire boosters for carries. Casual farm botting in my eyes is dead, unless you have access to private farm bots, and botting as a business is risky unless you know what you're doing.

Even if you vibecode a bot, it will still get clapped if you're building off NN.

I started a bot based on NN, lost 7-8 accounts in a month and just gave up on it. Which is a real shame, cause NN provides a superb API and if you have the faintest idea what to do, you can vibecode a fully working grinding bot in ~2 weeks or less!

And even if GMR/Baneto lowered prices to SIN level, they still can't come close to it in terms of performance, and this is coming from me, who has criticized SIN left and right in the past.

Essentially, SIN is the only option unless you can find something cheap and private.

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Originally Posted by omnislash11 Even if you vibecode a bot, it will still get clapped if you're building off NN. I started a bot based on NN, lost 7-8 accounts in a month and just gave up on it. Which is a real shame, cause NN provides a superb API and if you have the faintest idea what to do, you can vibecode a fully working grinding bot in ~2 weeks or less! And even if GMR/Baneto lowered prices to SIN level, they still can't come close to it in terms of performance, and this is coming from me, who has criticized SIN left and right in the past. Essentially, SIN is the only option unless you can find something cheap and private.

Yeah, sounds like a lot of the issues just come down to NN's navi servers/mesh systems, because really if you use NN for rotations it's good unless there is a hard detection for NN itself (I don't consider nav server as the main core client because it's not) which is why we see a lot of bans for farming frequently and not rotations. But the finger-pointing between NN and Third parties is that it's each other's fault.

I think NN either has to rethink Nav/pathing/Meshing, or 3rd parties need to do it, but I don't think either will change that situation. Blizzard has the Machine learning capabilities to detect anything that comes out publicly.

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Originally Posted by tamedbeast Yeah, sounds like a lot of the issues just come down to NN's navi servers/mesh systems, because really if you use NN for rotations it's good unless there is a hard detection for NN itself (I don't consider nav server as the main core client because it's not) which is why we see a lot of bans for farming frequently and not rotations. But the finger-pointing between NN and Third parties is that it's each other's fault. I think NN either has to rethink Nav/pathing/Meshing, or 3rd parties need to do it, but I don't think either will change that situation. Blizzard has the Machine learning capabilities to detect anything that comes out publicly.

In my opinion it doesn't have anything to do with the pathing, moreso the fact that farming bots run for longer than rotation bots and when using a rotation bot you're also mixing in manual input to move/chat or am I mistaken? (I've never used a rotation bot)

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Originally Posted by omnislash11 In my opinion it doesn't have anything to do with the pathing, moreso the fact that farming bots run for longer than rotation bots and when using a rotation bot you're also mixing in manual input to move/chat or am I mistaken? (I've never used a rotation bot)

I mean, we're all guessing at this point; only Blizzard knows the exact answer. But I'm sure there are rotation users who play for 10-15 hours straight, just dedicating a lot of time to the game. The main difference is that they don't use Navigation servers / MMAP's to do so, nor do they rely on pathing. They're not repeating the same process over and over in a way that machine learning data would be trained on.

So really, for me, it comes down to both NN and its providers to improve on that. I think the fault comes down to both sides' failure to innovate and improve on this.

However, this is my opinion; it doesn't make any of these facts, it's just all that makes logical sense to me.