safe cheats thats gonna last me a while

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Originally Posted by GarboVoid nothing is long term safe, thought I would need to mention this first. Secondly shiwa and proofcore are decent, but check compatibility with shiwa beforehand as not all CPUs are supported.

I used to use Kernaim long term and I tried out ProofCore as well. Both have been undetected for a long while (12+ month) but I always got manualed once I hit diamond+ and masters since killing streamers is a big no-no.

Is Shiwa as safe as these two?

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Originally Posted by Dubsywubsy And how does any of that have anything to do with your extremely oversold trash that's DTC every other week? Thats a known fact. And ahhh yes, when it's oversold like Exodus, it's much more likely to cause it to be DTC, this is a known fact. Who cares about your spoofer. Thats been an issue in the past with causing detections as well. Face the facts.

That's all proves that it is in fact not detected everyweek, and that's is much more of a fact than your words saying "that's a fact" right. Also idk what oversold means exactly in your head, but if that means having resellers then that's the most normal thing ever, since long time ago. There is no problems if provider has many resellers and user base should not be a problem unless your bypass is that much of a trash. So, you can keep using trash stuff that can handle 50 users max because EAC doesn't react much, but in our case, I have my own main account that I play on, so your every take can be easily destroyed just because of that (espicially since you decided to ignore the spoofer side in our convo). On every detection we had, my main always got hit because I play on each account for a long time, until (obviously) it gets banned whenever we get detected.

Facing facts = not detected since March 20, otherwise chat and resellers would let me know about that, nobody will spend money on detected stuff if competitors provide UD product, especially resellers (and I disable sales whenever we're detected anyways, because, once again, resellers and chatters let me clearly know about detection). Now you can face the facts.

Also, if something doesn't matter then don't bring it up in the first place.

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Originally Posted by susrian Hello as the title says I am looking for something thats gonna last me a long time. Im not into dma and shit at all. Please suggest whatever cheat is good for a really really closet cheater.

Theres none, pretty much all of them that arent DMA will get you Banned fast.
Ofc, the Devs of those Cheats will say something else because they want to sell their Stuff but yea... Not worth it to be honest.

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Originally Posted by susrian Hello as the title says I am looking for something thats gonna last me a long time. Im not into dma and shit at all. Please suggest whatever cheat is good for a really really closet cheater.

For a really really closet gameplay, as you mentioned, ProofCore should be good. Afaik, they made it all detailed enough and legit by default. The last time I saw their aimbot it was more like an aim assist rather than aimbot but maybe the guy I watched just had that kind of settings. Bnuuy is also good if you're fine with a "private" or "invite only" (I don't really remember their system).

DMA fans will say that DMA is the only way, of course :kappa:

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Originally Posted by changen4125 I used to use Kernaim long term and I tried out ProofCore as well. Both have been undetected for a long while (12+ month) but I always got manualed once I hit diamond+ and masters since killing streamers is a big no-no. Is Shiwa as safe as these two?

I do not know specifically if its safer, but I do know it does not support some CPUs tho so before taking it in comparison make sure you're eligible to use it

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Originally Posted by EXODUS. That's all proves that it is in fact not detected everyweek, and that's is much more of a fact than your words saying "that's a fact" right. Also idk what oversold means exactly in your head, but if that means having resellers then that's the most normal thing ever, since long time ago. There is no problems if provider has many resellers and user base should not be a problem unless your bypass is that much of a trash. So, you can keep using trash stuff that can handle 50 users max because EAC doesn't react much, but in our case, I have my own main account that I play on, so your every take can be easily destroyed just because of that (espicially since you decided to ignore the spoofer side in our convo). On every detection we had, my main always got hit because I play on each account for a long time, until (obviously) it gets banned whenever we get detected. Facing facts = not detected since March 20, otherwise chat and resellers would let me know about that, nobody will spend money on detected stuff if competitors provide UD product, especially resellers (and I disable sales whenever we're detected anyways, because, once again, resellers and chatters let me clearly know about detection). Now you can face the facts. Also, if something doesn't matter then don't bring it up in the first place.

Bro just shut your mouth. Anyone can spend 3 minutes and see the proof. Since MARCH lol. ha-ha. Thats lame and even a lie at that lololol. You try to talk big but as I just said, a short search will show your cheat is oversold garbage. Now go back to your little discord where you ban people for asking support questions to other experienced users since your support is slow asf and treats people like crap when they ask questions. On with it now.

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Originally Posted by Dubsywubsy Bro just shut your mouth. Anyone can spend 3 minutes and see the proof. Since MARCH lol. ha-ha. Thats lame and even a lie at that lololol. You try to talk big but as I just said, a short search will show your cheat is oversold garbage. Now go back to your little discord where you ban people for asking support questions to other experienced users since your support is slow asf and treats people like crap when they ask questions. On with it now.

Spent my 3 minutes just for you and here what I can see
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"Oversold" you mean being sold like any other product, I understand now. That's called public sales, but keep using the words you like no problems :D

Now go back to your little private's that can't handle more than 50 users where you get praise about how good you are just because you exist and keep your ego high.

About support, I made it really clear that it works 12/7 so no it's not slow it is as it should be. Btw, instead of trolling try to read the guide, it's really answers almost anything you need. Ah wait, for you normal questions and texting is "treating like crap" so guide won't work for you, sad story. Please keep buying those privates with 50 users they surely can handle everyone one by one. Stay sharp man!

UPD: Just for you, look what I found, I guess this is the type of messages that you read without any context or never follow up, right :D

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Originally Posted by EXODUS. Spent my 3 minutes just for you and here what I can see [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] "Oversold" you mean being sold like any other product, I understand now. That's called public sales, but keep using the words you like no problems :D Now go back to your little private's that can't handle more than 50 users where you get praise about how good you are just because you exist and keep your ego high. About support, I made it really clear that it works 12/7 so no it's not slow it is as it should be. Btw, instead of trolling try to read the guide, it's really answers almost anything you need. Ah wait, for you normal questions and texting is "treating like crap" so guide won't work for you, sad story. Please keep buying those privates with 50 users they surely can handle everyone one by one. Stay sharp man! UPD: Just for you, look what I found, I guess this is the type of messages that you read without any context or never follow up, right :D [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

NOT 1 bit of that has to do with anything I said. Loser. Anyone who reads this will see youre a child and cannot accept your cheat is ass.

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Originally Posted by susrian Hello as the title says I am looking for something thats gonna last me a long time. Im not into dma and shit at all. Please suggest whatever cheat is good for a really really closet cheater.

If you're looking for something long-term and fully legit, I'd recommend checking out our Apex Legends solution. It's one of our longest-running projects — up to date since 2022 — and designed specifically for closet users who want premium-level safety and smooth performance without needing DMA!

Let me know if you'd like more info or a test key.

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exactly what are you looking for.

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Originally Posted by Dubsywubsy NOT 1 bit of that has to do with anything I said. Loser. Anyone who reads this will see youre a child and cannot accept your cheat is ass.

Says the guy who wrote "loser", just a waste of time.

Unfortunately for you, I can track a simple trash talk that you do here, so these screenshots directly prove my point. Get back to the lq privates buddy.

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Originally Posted by EXODUS. Says the guy who wrote "loser", just a waste of time. Unfortunately for you, I can track a simple trash talk that you do here, so these screenshots directly prove my point. Get back to the lq privates buddy.

Keep trying. Your SS has nothing to do with me. BTW, explain to us all, that when I wrecked your crap VIA IDA Pro, I found the servers you use are full of customers info and stolen personal documents like logins, passwords, payment information and more? Please explain. Or is that the "other" guys stuff that you share all your "lists" with? DO NOT bother trying to deny it either. If you do, Ill expose every little bit of it. TNH, I didn't even need IDA to do the work. Simply injecting a false .dll file was enough to trigger 3 call back routes and pinpoint your BS. I mean, from how it looks. Selling a detected cheat to a bunch of unknowing people that's laced with malware sounds like a great idea to make money while making money! Bravo! I'm sure you'll blame it on something like a key server but we will see.

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Originally Posted by Dubsywubsy Keep trying. Your SS has nothing to do with me. BTW, explain to us all, that when I wrecked your crap VIA IDA Pro, I found the servers you use are full of customers info and stolen personal documents like logins, passwords, payment information and more? Please explain. Or is that the "other" guys stuff that you share all your "lists" with? DO NOT bother trying to deny it either. If you do, Ill expose every little bit of it. TNH, I didn't even need IDA to do the work. Simply injecting a false .dll file was enough to trigger 3 call back routes and pinpoint your BS. I mean, from how it looks. Selling a detected cheat to a bunch of unknowing people that's laced with malware sounds like a great idea to make money while making money! Bravo! I'm sure you'll blame it on something like a key server but we will see.

Do not bother to accuse me in anything related to logging, won't work. Also you found it via IDA or "injecting a false dll"? Buddy, do you even know what are you talking about?XD Research first. Besides that, provide proofs and don't even try to accuse anyone without them. Never logged that kind of info and never will, but nice try.

SS is directly related to you if I sent it.

Detected cheat? Then everyone or at least 50% of user base would get banned. And calling 2000+ activations per month a "bunch" really shows how slow you are, and that comes from a guy who "reversed" what a joke dude. Once again, nice try. Waiting for those proofs buddy. Don't even try to reply without proofs.