SHAIYA 4EVER - EP4.5

Well, gave it a test run when i had free time to try it. First thing that comes as a problem is that server seems to be only oriented towards getting donations and nothing more. KO, Conc noss etc, all for donations, while donation points can't be farmed. Even the minor things such as summons, moves, xp stone, stat reset is for donations.

Second problem i saw was very rude staff who will sit online and answer only in order to make fights, otherwise the questions got ignored for most part, at least at times i was there and people had something to ask. At random points a GM will drop in to give a LOL, LOOOOOL, LOLOL and tell a disagreeing player or player questioning things to leave the server. (this was at times i was on, don't know if there are any other GMs and if they treat players better)
The only plus is that it's similar to OS if that's to our liking and seemingly good player base for a new server, which imo is wasted as the communication skills are down to zero.

Anyway, good luck with the server, hope things work out for the better for you guys.

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Originally Posted by Skilluh Well, gave it a test run when i had free time to try it. First thing that comes as a problem is that server seems to be only oriented towards getting donations and nothing more. KO, Conc noss etc, all for donations, while donation points can't be farmed. Even the minor things such as summons, moves, xp stone, stat reset is for donations. Second problem i saw was very rude staff who will sit online and answer only in order to make fights, otherwise the questions got ignored for most part, at least at times i was there and people had something to ask. At random points a GM will drop in to give a LOL, LOOOOOL, LOLOL and tell a disagreeing player or player questioning things to leave the server. (this was at times i was on, don't know if there are any other GMs and if they treat players better) The only plus is that it's similar to OS if that's to our liking and seemingly good player base for a new server, which imo is wasted as the communication skills are down to zero. Anyway, good luck with the server, hope things work out for the better for you guys.

thanks for trying it out Skilluh, the GOLD to SP and Vote to SP will be implemented in the coming patch it should be this week.. and about the rude staffs, I would like you to give me at-least name of the GM who gave you LOL, LOOOOL and LOLOL.

I think that the server could benefit from having a forum on the site. The GM's seem to get flooded with a rash of simple questions from players that may have never played OS or at least not for any length of time. This seems to overwhelm the staff as after 2-3 questions they begin to parrot "send a ticket for all questions and suggestion". While a ticket will answer these questions on a 1 on 1 basis, simple player created guides and tutorials could save a lot of the hassle of having to answer the same ticket 100 times a week.

Also, the staff does seem to ask the opinion of the player base, which is good but they are only getting the opinions of a handful of players that are on at the same time. Once again, public polls and suggestions threads could gather a communal opinion for such things on the site.

All said, the server seems like a decent example of a low rate farm server. Only time will tell where it leads.

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Originally Posted by Nobuyuki I think that the server could benefit from having a forum on the site. The GM's seem to get flooded with a rash of simple questions from players that may have never played OS or at least not for any length of time. This seems to overwhelm the staff as after 2-3 questions they begin to parrot "send a ticket for all questions and suggestion". While a ticket will answer these questions on a 1 on 1 basis, simple player created guides and tutorials could save a lot of the hassle of having to answer the same ticket 100 times a week. Also, the staff does seem to ask the opinion of the player base, which is good but they are only getting the opinions of a handful of players that are on at the same time. Once again, public polls and suggestions threads could gather a communal opinion for such things on the site. All said, the server seems like a decent example of a low rate farm server. Only time will tell where it leads.

Thanks for the inputs Nobuyuki. :)
We will be publishing an FAQ article as well as New Players Guide.

We just finished the patch today.

Patch Logs:
SP to Gold is now available in Item Mall.
Gold to SP is now available in NPC located in Bootlegery Market.
Increased DD1 and Jungle Dual Lapises Drop rate.
Increased Lv58 Gears Drop rate.
4EVER Coins and SP Gem Lv1 is dropping in all DD1 Mobs.

SP to Gold Exchange Rates:
1 SP = 800,000G
Gold to SP Exchange Rates:
1,000,000G = 1SP

Thank You! ;)

[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] has been added in the website.

drop leaf how it works here? after clicking on the drop sheet does not show a list of where everything falls, or the majority on the item for free?

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Originally Posted by Mizera1 drop leaf how it works here? after clicking on the drop sheet does not show a list of where everything falls, or the majority on the item for free?

there is a dropdown where you could select the items you are looking for. check this screenshot. [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

Unfortunately, Mozilla displays this panel to search where I choose item you want to search, explorer, there it is, therefore, do not use that, but at least I know it

I wish u could inscrease buffs time, sux to buff every 5mins..

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Originally Posted by Mizera1 Unfortunately, Mozilla displays this panel to search where I choose item you want to search, explorer, there it is, therefore, do not use that, but at least I know it

the issue for Mozilla browser has been fixed.

BUMP!
Give it a try guys. Thanks!

Forums has been added in the website.

BUMP!

Have played on this server since it opened, yes there was major trouble with getting account activation and they only responded via facebook. Love the grinding and low exp, have to get parties and that was always a favorite of mine on OS. This is where the comparison to OS goes away. Simple items all are donator items, you cannot farm them and the staff constantly says they are going to update for SP to drop, but they did add a gold merch to buy SP in AH at the cost of 1m gold per SP, making 1 hr sprint noss 2m and each rr 5m each..prices are just ridiculous and these items cannot be farmed in game. Items that can be farmed in game have the same drop rate as OS. So it will take time to come up with the gold to buy. Meanwhile, donators rule here. Events are non existent as is the staff involvement. Again they promise to add more and be more involved but again for the amount of people there they are already behind and people are looking for other places. If you could get someone to copy this idea and actually support the server that was made it would really have something good.

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Originally Posted by TrollBandaid Have played on this server since it opened, yes there was major trouble with getting account activation and they only responded via facebook. Love the grinding and low exp, have to get parties and that was always a favorite of mine on OS. This is where the comparison to OS goes away. Simple items all are donator items, you cannot farm them and the staff constantly says they are going to update for SP to drop, but they did add a gold merch to buy SP in AH at the cost of 1m gold per SP, making 1 hr sprint noss 2m and each rr 5m each..prices are just ridiculous and these items cannot be farmed in game. Items that can be farmed in game have the same drop rate as OS. So it will take time to come up with the gold to buy. Meanwhile, donators rule here. Events are non existent as is the staff involvement. Again they promise to add more and be more involved but again for the amount of people there they are already behind and people are looking for other places. If you could get someone to copy this idea and actually support the server that was made it would really have something good.

apologies if i have banned you for 24h. i know its you. its just you cannot talk to game masters like that in public. if the guild leaders/officers cannot respect us then who will? we have to be firm. server is young, you guys had tons of suggestions and we are delivering. we listen, we care. donators cannot rule this server, the best item in-game is not available thru sp. you have to get it the old ways by boss hunting and farming. also we do not even have gm links, reroll and enchants we designed it this way to balance donors and farmers.

i must admit we lack staffing. we are only 3 people atm and all working our ass in the development. but its being worked on. we are hiring, we are looking for staffs, sages.

I gave the server a second chance at one point and as much as there are many things wrong with it, i do have to point out that GM precious has a point in this post. TrollBandaid (i guess Clyde in game) is just a non stop qqer, both him and his buddy that's non stop with him. Even from logging on first time, most of the time you'll see them qqing, bitching at other players, complaining, thinking of some conspiracy theories. Heck, even saw them qqing at people for lvling in jungle cause "lights might make kills that way", qqing about lights hitting 60, about lights having more tanks, more archers etc etc. Saw some drama attempt on trade chat with threatening about deleting account unless his demands are met because archers are "hacking", but it went unnoticed and ignored, so guess it had to be done on epvp.
Thing that Precious is referring to (i think) is that few of them can constantly be seen on trade talking trash about GMs (now while i do agree, so far i could say that only Precious is a cool person from staff, while the other ones i met are really bad, still, if you're going to play, at least control yourself a bit) and it went on every single time i was on.
It's just one of those first batch of players you have on every server, the ones that gear up a bit more among first players, then think that it revolves around them, then they either leave and get forgotten, or pipe down, stay and play the server.

Now, as far as the server goes, it IS better than it was at start. Since now you can afford those small items to help you with farming a bit, and you can buy RPC and 7d xp and so on. But yeah, not sure how it will go from here once sonics and flashes and rest are introduced since players certainly won't be able to afford 50mil per OP to try linking and we all know how many tries sonics and flashes can take. Along with sonic, LC and linking cost, it could probably drag on to over a bil to link it, and that's 1 lapis.
Problem compared to old OS EP4, before massive gold dupe, is that price of OPs was lower, and for example stat resets were 20mil compared to your 250mil ones. In my opinion you kinda have post dupe prices without the duped gold. I haven't really played much, since i don't have too much time on my hands, so some points of my post might be wrong (i heard there are coins dropping in DD1, but then again heard they drop like once per 2 hours of farming). Either way, it's a fun server if you don't mind things going slow.
As for GMs not listening - yes, the other ones are impossible to speak to (idk if language barrier or something), but this GM actually is the one that tries hard among them, and actually is implementing suggestions from what i've seen. Some of the things i read on forums (he implemented forums on request), is that he'll be implementing majority of the suggestions with the patch on weekend, so yeah i can't agree that at least he/she isn't involved or not listening to players.
About community - well, from what i saw, there are a LOT of players. Actually probably more than on any current server, however think that 90% or higher are pinoy players. But one thing i did like seeing is that there is a rule that forbids anything other than enlighs in any public chat, so that the players from all the countries can play.
Things i would personally suggest for change:
- Adjust prices in IM compared to gold of the server (you can monitor those things and change in future to higher if gold hoarding becomes higher)
- Make items such as movement/summon/tele rune drop globally from mobs at some lowerish % so people could get them a bit (imo 10mil per 10 runes of 1 kind only is way too much considering they're very much needed to keep the pvp alive)
- Make hammers (at least smaller ones) drop somewhere
- Put lvl33 capes as a drop, while keeping 54 ones as they are in donations (sorry if they're already dropping somewhere and i missed it)
- Raise drop rate of GSP/GHP/SP/MP large pots globally since they're needed a lot plus it'll be a way for non guilded players to obtain them

Sorry for long post, wanted to explain only about that dude complaining since he's been nothing but rude 24/7 in game, both towards players and staff, but then got carried away lol