New 9dragons development

Without the latest patches and server files, you won't get anywhere. We've all tried and all failed.

If you ask me, i see nothing but some people who's trying to copy 9dragons and failed. I do this project as a part of my hobby, why are you guys obsessed with being implementing the same contents as 9dragons. I wouldnt take any of their codes in the first place, because the tidy up would took more time than writing it from scratch. I dont ask you to "expect" my game would be "600x exp rate" or "100% success rate" and everyone is going to be happy on 10 mins pvp without dying. If you have hope and expect something great would be made out of my effort, which i offer my own free time to do it, just do the survey and let me know your ideas. However, it doesnt mean i would follow "everyone" dreams just to make some "smart kids" happy. Either way if my server wont be able to keep running, i wouldnt ask ppl to "pay" for it like those kids with their private server. If you know how hard it is to develop a game, so you should touching your own nose before posting and flaming there. Basically, as i have point it out the on the first sentence. DO NOT group your "like" with ME. If i ever failed this then can come when ever you want and blame me, but for now how about stop flaming about every "9dragons this 9dragons that"? And just for you to understand the "need" of this thread for ME. I asking for ppl opinion, instead of those people who's just making a private server with high exp rate and stuff like that just to "please" some people, who's cant even play on the official server. So if it is pointless to talk in MY thread, just go somewhere else and reflex your own failure life and talk about "we couldnt make it". Until this development is finished or failed, you do not have any right to talk about ME, because basically in my eyes your flaming are just showing how much you have fail in your life. Go read a book and trying to understand those words. I never know there is so much kids in this forum. Now it is quite "pointless" to even expect a serious survey result from this forum. Well, i could offer you the current lump.dat and netcode of GC, but i dont think you guys will ever make any use of it.

Now this is a long text, and most of you guys dont even read it. So have fun on talking to a mirrow how good you are. =)

See a lot of pointless words... It goes same as all projects...

Listen meloncode, maybe you're right... maybe you have enough resources to rebuild it from its scratch, maybe you and your team can do it but remember one thing, 9Dragons' community has been betrayed many times, it was, is and always be hard to convince it.

I wish you good luck with your project, no sarcasm.

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Originally Posted by meloncode If you ask me, i see nothing but some people who's trying to copy 9dragons and failed. I do this project as a part of my hobby, why are you guys obsessed with being implementing the same contents as 9dragons. I wouldnt take any of their codes in the first place, because the tidy up would took more time than writing it from scratch. I dont ask you to "expect" my game would be "600x exp rate" or "100% success rate" and everyone is going to be happy on 10 mins pvp without dying. If you have hope and expect something great would be made out of my effort, which i offer my own free time to do it, just do the survey and let me know your ideas. However, it doesnt mean i would follow "everyone" dreams just to make some "smart kids" happy. Either way if my server wont be able to keep running, i wouldnt ask ppl to "pay" for it like those kids with their private server. If you know how hard it is to develop a game, so you should touching your own nose before posting and flaming there. Basically, as i have point it out the on the first sentence. DO NOT group your "like" with ME. If i ever failed this then can come when ever you want and blame me, but for now how about stop flaming about every "9dragons this 9dragons that"? And just for you to understand the "need" of this thread for ME. I asking for ppl opinion, instead of those people who's just making a private server with high exp rate and stuff like that just to "please" some people, who's cant even play on the official server. So if it is pointless to talk in MY thread, just go somewhere else and reflex your own failure life and talk about "we couldnt make it". Until this development is finished or failed, you do not have any right to talk about ME, because basically in my eyes your flaming are just showing how much you have fail in your life. Go read a book and trying to understand those words. I never know there is so much kids in this forum. Now it is quite "pointless" to even expect a serious survey result from this forum. Well, i could offer you the current lump.dat and netcode of GC, but i dont think you guys will ever make any use of it. Now this is a long text, and most of you guys dont even read it. So have fun on talking to a mirrow how good you are. =)

Just one question, why don't you just create another game altogether? Even if people were to give suggestions about what could be fix, as you've said yourself it doesn't mean that you'll have to follow a particular suggestion, potentially all suggestions. Putting that aside, it means that you'd have to go through the process of evaluating whether a suggestion is good, which requires heavy testing, then release an "improved" 9dragons that actually aren't favorable with the 9dragons community.
If it's the story of the 9 clans that intrigues you, then just create a brand new game based on that, with none of the game mechanics/ideas like the current one because regardless of which current 9dragons stuff you put in your improved version, chances are a good portion of the community will not be happy with it. It's not like this is uncommon or unheard of in this community.

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Originally Posted by lilfob Just one question, why don't you just create another game altogether? Even if people were to give suggestions about what could be fix, as you've said yourself it doesn't mean that you'll have to follow a particular suggestion, potentially all suggestions. Putting that aside, it means that you'd have to go through the process of evaluating whether a suggestion is good, which requires heavy testing, then release an "improved" 9dragons that actually aren't favorable with the 9dragons community. If it's the story of the 9 clans that intrigues you, then just create a brand new game based on that, with none of the game mechanics/ideas like the current one because regardless of which current 9dragons stuff you put in your improved version, chances are a good portion of the community will not be happy with it. It's not like this is uncommon or unheard of in this community.

That's true, i have been thinking about that solution too, since most of the people are obsessed with private server. They mostly expecting something like free server with 600x exp rate and drop rate or whatever. However, i would not implementing the awsd movement in this game, since most of the 9d players dont like that. The survey would help me to understand what they want, but most likely it is about 9dragons as private server. People expecting private to be free and easy to play, but i dont think this is the kind of work i should spend my efforts on it. On the other hand, i think i will still following the concept of this game, while balance and improve it. Honestly, i have been working on a new concepts for balancing the stats it is effects. Out of 3/10 thinking it is too hard for them. So currently i will have to thinking how to make it easier or gather information why it is too hard for them. Lets see what the future brings to us. =)

I tried my hand at a server emulator long ago, twice actually, before the server files were leaked. I got as far as a simple login server, status server, and game server. It was enough to get into the game world but not much else. The amount of work is simply overwhelming. I'm afraid to say the problem has always been a lack of skilled contributors with 9Dragons. Over the years it has always been one guy who does all the work until he burns out, then over time another person takes his place, rinse and repeat. The amount of time to do a small server emulator that doesn't really do much of anything is a huge investment. Previously I've worked on Warzone 2100 and The Mana World, even with teams of people it takes several months to get anywhere.

I wish you good luck on your project. I don't mean to deter you in anyway. Sometimes a small start is enough to spark interest, and who knows maybe the timing is right. Just be realistic in the time investment, and the fact you might be the only person to ever work on it.

That's true, time is always a big problem on any projects. I do this as a hobby and dont mind to invest my own time into it. Ofcouse, i dont know what will change my current life style in the future, this is why i cant really promise nor give people the open beta schedule. The time factor will definitely grow on this project, because it will not be a server emulator or a private server using the 9dragons source code. I will use their graphic and sound contents to make this game based on 9dragons play style and storyline. It might create a lot of problem, but it's worth to give it a try. =)