Elementalist

Well I don't know if there's actually any difference among the value/dmg increase of ice light psn damage or ele damage.. Both increase the final skill damage. Basically Ice Damage should increase "Frozen Darts" more than normal Ele damage or even Heroic Damage, but the damage system is influenced by many stats..
I can't really make a test because my Exc Faren with royal cloak will deal for sure higher dmg than my int luke with lv 6 dim cloak :|

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Originally Posted by Withered Well I don't know if there's actually any difference among the value/dmg increase of ice light psn damage or ele damage.. Both increase the final skill damage. Basically Ice Damage should increase "Frozen Darts" more than normal Ele damage or even Heroic Damage, but the damage system is influenced by many stats.. I can't really make a test because my Exc Faren with royal cloak will deal for sure higher dmg than my int luke with lv 6 dim cloak :|

u think clean lv1 weapon with 1x combined elemental prayer

vs
lv1 weapon with 1x fire /air ... elemental stone

is compareable?

(Meinst du es macht Sinn zweimal eine Waffe zu nehmen mit gleichen Werten und dann mit dem combined elemental prayer ( ice/light/psn-dmg) zu testen und dann mit den normalen "alten" ele Steinen?)

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Originally Posted by Mrn1c3guy maby elementalist dooo ice/light/psn dmg ? and HH skill ? STFU IF YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING YOU NO MODERATOR WHO SAY WICH SECTION IT IS

Why the retard you are then say me not to link a topic about elem rez ignore? In which people actually don't only talk about elem rez ignore, but also about what you asked for.
But obviously you didn't took the time to read what i linked to you in order to try to help.

If i knew...

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Originally Posted by Wadawan Why the retard you are then say me not to link a topic about elem rez ignore? In which people actually don't only talk about elem rez ignore, but also about what you asked for. But obviously you didn't took the time to read what i linked to you in order to try to help. If i knew...

there is not what i am looking for , if i not saw copy me text pls

if i do ele resi debuff and than hh skil is withe dmg -> hh dmg but more than before

and more ele dmg -> more hh dmg output

but what about ice light poison dmg and how ??

1ice/light/poison =1 ele dmg \
or -> effect on dmg output
1ice+1light+1poison = 3 ele dmg /


= means here compareable (if you missunderstand me again here = not be the same as)

Read again, you lazy ass. I don't beleive that you have read this thread. I gave you a clue in the same post i linked the thread.

Which mean that i told you to read only one post, not the whole topic so. And as i posted only one post in there, you can't be wrong... (and i didn't simply linked the whole thread, i linked the exact page the concerned post is in, but its too difficult for you).

you linked first page soo only thing there could be your post :

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Originally Posted by Wadawan You always hit with all your dmg being taking in count. It is not because you hit someone and then the value 2500 appear on target head, that you have done 2500 magic dmg to him. If you decompose this value, you have let say 50% physical, 30% elem, 10% special elem, 10% hh. And its the same with normal hit. The hit only take the color of the element that have benefited the most in the attack. So even if you have 250 cold dmg and 1000 hh dmg, if your target have 80% hh dmg rez but 0 cold rez, your hit may appear in cold color (depend of element multiplier of skill, or random cold value picked for normal hit). But then, on normal hit, raw elements dmg are randomly selected, and all elements are not necesarly triggered at every attack

but this does not answear my question you say there only hh dmg + ele dmg + special ele dmg = dmg over the target ^
this schould be
ice/light/psn dmg?



or you wanna say if i do stone with ice/light/poison res it have 1/3 effect on dmg output like ele stone ?



i want to know what increase my dmg output more ice/light/poison dmg or ele dmg
or want you say here ice light poison dmg will increase it more bcs manny have low res of this `? .... if i remove ele resi its most time lower than ice/light/poison res of most tankers i saw ^^

Just make a try with lvl 1 chakram and put here the screen.

1 with ice stone (f.e) and the second with fire stone

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Originally Posted by Mrn1c3guy you linked first page soo only thing there could be your post : but this does not answear my question you say there only hh dmg + ele dmg + special ele dmg = dmg over the target ^ this schould be ice/light/psn dmg? or you wanna say if i do stone with ice/light/poison res it have 1/3 effect on dmg output like ele stone ? i want to know what increase my dmg output more ice/light/poison dmg or ele dmg or want you say here ice light poison dmg will increase it more bcs manny have low res of this `? .... if i remove ele resi its most time lower than ice/light/poison res of most tankers i saw ^^

it does, you just don't know how to read. When i say that all your dmg (from all sources) are taken in count in every single attacks, that mean exactly it.
You don't have to care about the dmg coming from a stone or a buff or a cook produce or anything else, it don't change the fact that i wrote.
There is just a little subtility with normal hit, as i notified it in the post you quoted (finaly).


So, if its said that there is all the time all dmg in every attack, then its normal that after a normal elemental resistance debuff on your target, it take more dmg even using a heavenhell skill on him (as long as you have normal elemental dmg displayed in your character window).


There is alos no proportion to speak about

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bla bla bla 1/3 bla bla bla

. When you add 10 dmg, you simply add 10 dmg, wherever they come from. Impressive isn't it?

Just don't forget that your target have many kind of protection, so thats normal that if you add 10 dmg, you won't do 10 more dmg on him, but less.

I saw many retarded comments here about elems :facepalm:
so i will make is simple what elems need
1.2xInt Shutas 3slots would be nice (2xstamian+10% Res) Exc or Brill Sentinels vs critters :)
2.Exc Faren/Int Faren vs casters and Hestia vs critters with Royal Cloak+staminas 6lvl :)
3.Abslt Boots Gloves 3/3 ashtals or the new crystatls /HH Cap and CF top with SB and HP(if u get SB debuffs)vs casters and True Cap CF kilt 12% res HP and 3 slotted HH Top vs critters :)
4. Wep Kaligo Chakram with 1 combined stone(ice/psn/light dmg)+full ashtals(crystals)
So as ele u need to go on full ice/psn/light dmg cuz most chars doesnt have much of that res(only rangers got but they have fckin low HH res so u can do nice dmg with HH skills )Also some ppl will say u need Int Ohkeroses for CD (why u need 90CD when u go out of mana so fast ?)better max rank+max dmg and with 16%from Top 50%from combi lens+ 10% nectar and 5% from CF food =81%CD for like 3mins and after that 76%CD kinda ok imo :)
And im lazy to write all the other things about build ect and also u got ur DoT on max rank ;)

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Originally Posted by Kleparnik I saw many retarded comments here about elems :facepalm: so i will make is simple what elems need 1.2xInt Shutas 3slots would be nice (2xstamian+10% Res) Exc or Brill Sentinels vs critters :) 2.Exc Faren/Int Faren vs casters and Hestia vs critters with Royal Cloak+staminas 6lvl :) 3.Abslt Boots Gloves 3/3 ashtals or the new crystatls /HH Cap and CF top with SB and HP(if u get SB debuffs)vs casters and True Cap CF kilt 12% res HP and 3 slotted HH Top vs critters :) 4. Wep Kaligo Chakram with 1 combined stone(ice/psn/light dmg)+full ashtals(crystals) So as ele u need to go on full ice/psn/light dmg cuz most chars doesnt have much of that res(only rangers got but they have fckin low HH res so u can do nice dmg with HH skills )Also some ppl will say u need Int Ohkeroses for CD (why u need 90CD when u go out of mana so fast ?)better max rank+max dmg and with 16%from Top 50%from combi lens+ 10% nectar and 5% from CF food =81%CD for like 3mins and after that 76%CD kinda ok imo :) And im lazy to write all the other things about build ect and also u got ur DoT on max rank ;)

all u say is true but just crazys (or richs) buy amazing stuff for fight pvp 1x1 for example... 3/3 in shuta + 3/3 ex sentinel... hestia + ex faren

the most players on server is "normal" player, with uniques 1 or 2 slot max
and the start topic say: better stuff for lvl 90 (maybe go fight only in shrine)
and anyone go make a lotttt nectar only for get some cooldown more. if u die, need relog for use again. so.. better u spend more money one time or spend money all time? for this reason i think ex ohkeros better.

absolut black punpkin title or SXL mana potion, your mana never go end (except try killing one knight in pvp 1x1)

well i go say only one time: is a big waste of time if u dont have money to play with elementalist cuz is papper toon!!
one mage, archer, ranger, hunter, scion, sorcer with same equipes u owned much more.

I know, it's bad to hear this but whoever did the fucking rebalancing was Webzen :(

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Originally Posted by Crossfyre all u say is true but just crazys (or richs) buy amazing stuff for fight pvp 1x1 for example... 3/3 in shuta + 3/3 ex sentinel... hestia + ex faren the most players on server is "normal" player, with uniques 1 or 2 slot max and the start topic say: better stuff for lvl 90 (maybe go fight only in shrine) and anyone go make a lotttt nectar only for get some cooldown more. if u die, need relog for use again. so.. better u spend more money one time or spend money all time? for this reason i think ex ohkeros better. absolut black punpkin title or SXL mana potion, your mana never go end (except try killing one knight in pvp 1x1) well i go say only one time: is a big waste of time if u dont have money to play with elementalist cuz is papper toon!! one mage, archer, ranger, hunter, scion, sorcer with same equipes u owned much more. I know, it's bad to hear this but whoever did the fucking rebalancing was Webzen :(

Well he asked whats the best gear for elem and ye i didnt saw he asks for lvl 90 :) and its true if u put the same in mage/archer u can pown much more :) but if like elem thats what u need :P but what u prefer to be one the many archers/mages on server or the best of ur class ? :)

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Originally Posted by Kleparnik Well he asked whats the best gear for elem and ye i didnt saw he asks for lvl 90 :) and its true if u put the same in mage/archer u can pown much more :) but if like elem thats what u need :P but what u prefer to be one the many archers/mages on server or the best of ur class ? :)

Withered
preffer the best of your class hehehe =))

Withered isn't the best elem of server...

She's good but not the best.

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Originally Posted by phantomboot Withered isn't the best elem of server... She's good but not the best.

Aha only Kallen, Madyyy, Angelheat and me left xD
None of them have lots of GTs except Angelheat but I suppose I'd win a PvP
So who's better?

You can't say someone is good or bad at playing a char when they can't kill OP races, tho. I think I gave my best to get an Ele which tanks and deals some average damage at the same time ;)

Kallen is better than u. Just she have a crappy internet cnx and soo much lag.

Rabiosa69 is better than u too.

I guess melindel (retired) still better than u w/o new gear :-)

But np, u r in top 4-5 activ elem :-)