what do u think ?

Remember, this is just for 1 on 1 , any other battle, Force will be useless (bar res and heal).
But losing snow shield is bad, every character needs it, even if they are full str, 20% reduce saves serious lives.

yes snow shield is good but what more do you get from ice mastery? and if you have to high snow shield you dont have mp left for skills :P

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Originally Posted by tottenham yes snow shield is good but what more do you get from ice mastery? and if you have to high snow shield you dont have mp left for skills :P

physical defense? lots of it.. the high mana shield you can use for pvm, but 20% is enough for pvp, makes you unstoppable for 2 minutes.
the cold skills will help against none immune chars.

Force at 100 will cost so much SP.

just becouse you get force you dont have to take ress and heal just mastery and debuff. and if you take ice i would take ice and light then you get snow shield and run faster

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Originally Posted by tottenham just becouse you get force you dont have to take ress and heal just mastery and debuff. and if you take ice i would take ice and light then you get snow shield and run faster

if you chose Cold and Lightning you would either lose Fire or Heuksal.

i did mean like 50 ice and 50 light 100 fire and heuksal becouse you dont like force

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Originally Posted by tottenham i did mean like 50 ice and 50 light 100 fire and heuksal becouse you dont like force

I do like force, but If I was to have a debuff character, It would definitely be a Warrior / Warlock, they have to be the most fun build to play,
If you know how to.

100 100 50 50 sounds interesting, but then again, force is more appealing to me than cutting 2 mastery's in half.
And what you said about not adding heals or resurrects, then this build would be purely PvP, with the stamina of a Warrior.

I saw the video, some nice PvP, I wonder why the bowman didn't use Fire Wall..

~Error.

you have right a warlock warior is a nice char but then you have to be high lvl becouse on low lvl they are week and then you need robe so you get more mag def:p now on tropic 100 heuksal 100 fire and 100 force is probebly nice but what about 100 fire force and bow just with bow you get amaysing crits and then if you have force amaysing dmg :P now sleep time xD cya and good luck with your char

Warrior/Warlock is good only when u can debuff your oponent.When he's using Holy Spell and special pills then u'll have the equivalent of a warrior/bard.

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Originally Posted by Julian2008 Warrior/Warlock is good only when u can debuff your oponent.When he's using Holy Spell and special pills then u'll have the equivalent of a warrior/bard.

Not true, Holy Spell doesn't stop the countless stuns, HP drains, and the damage of a Warrior is not to be messed with.
We are sorta going off the topic here, Heuksal with Fire/Force,

Hmm.. Who would win, Glaive Force VS Warrior / Warlock neither with help.

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Originally Posted by theoneofgod Every build in this game is supposed to be in wars, jobs, group fights, that's the whole point of Silkroad Online, 1 on 1 PvP's get boring fast. Chances are even if you was to PvP the opposition will have Holy Spell, or he uses special pills to cure the effects, then you whine, and then you beg him to take it off, then you get mad, and they bring friends, and you bring friends, and a war takes place, that is what it's all about! I guess you have never played Silkroad before.

hmmm , i made a char for 1v1 pvp , not for as u brits say "bloody partays" , who can blame me , u ?
and if u played silkroad before , u would know that stun is un currable , either by pills or holy spell , thats why i'm getting force at 100.

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Originally Posted by Julian2008 Stun at 100? I dont think so...Look: ***Vital Spot - Faint Type A Description By instilling powerful force into vital spots where the flow of the chi is unstable, this skill inflicts unbearable impact that makes the enemy faint. Skill LV 1 Stun Level 11 ( Probability 80%, 5 Seconds ) Req Skill Vital Spot - Brain LV 1 S_LV M_LV MP Stun Level SP 1 110 1688 11 2 120 2234 12

wait till tuesday or go ask a korean , stun is at 10D , what u typed is a mistake on sro.mmosite.com

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Originally Posted by theoneofgod Not true, Holy Spell doesn't stop the countless stuns, HP drains, and the damage of a Warrior is not to be messed with. We are sorta going off the topic here, Heuksal with Fire/Force, Hmm.. Who would win, Glaive Force VS Warrior / Warlock neither with help.

i dont give a pile of shit who will win , i made this thread to ask about my build with protector , was that too much ?

nice build heuk/fire/force 100 but imo its for pvp build not an overall build.. beside force arent really usefull when fighting with warrior/cleric.. its really useless.. 1 friends say chinese char is an experiment char build because the build can be diffrent from others but whatever it is make sure the character is well balanced with ur build mostly weapon.. u say this is ur build for pvp but how about other things like grinding, fort war, jobbing etc.. dont u think force will be really useless unless u are not a people that not communicating with other player that will just do 30 minutes pvp and continue botting all the way untill u stop playing sro?? why not make a build that can be really usefull everytime.. jobbing, hunting uniques, pvp, fort war, guild war is maybe 1 of the main target for mostly sro player (except some turk and egyptian, no offence :D) so i will had to totally disagreed with ur idea..

go for heuk/fire 100 and light 60 with 40 ice.. why is i think this is good it is because glavie is superb especially with fire.. why light?? magical dmg increase ( for your imbue), parry ratio etc.. ice is also really usefull for glavie - snow shield, psy def increase means u will be more strong with psy and that mean u can be a good tanker plus people especially str base build char need to hit u more harder to kill u.. reason ice 40 is because of snow shield book 2.. a chinese pure str build will mostly can manage to fight while on snow shield because of really small amount of sufficient mp.. so how the f&*k u want to fight if ur mana keep been draining.... if u open snow shield book 3, u cant even fight due to insufficient mp and thats mean u will only waste most of ur mp pots just for receiving damage and not dealling damage like u supposedly do.... this is what i think

sory for my bad english

Rattled much?

+1 xzulx

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Originally Posted by xzulx why not make a build that can be really usefull everytime.. jobbing, hunting uniques, pvp, fort war, guild war is maybe 1 of the main target for mostly sro player (except some turk and egyptian, no offence :D) so i will had to totally disagreed with ur idea.. go for heuk/fire 100 and light 60 with 40 ice.. why is i think this is good it is because glavie is superb especially with fire.. why light?? magical dmg increase ( for your imbue), parry ratio etc.. ice is also really usefull for glavie - snow shield, psy def increase means u will be more strong with psy and that mean u can be a good tanker plus people especially str base build char need to hit u more harder to kill u.. reason ice 40 is because of snow shield book 2.. a chinese pure str build will mostly can manage to fight while on snow shield because of really small amount of sufficient mp.. so how the f&*k u want to fight if ur mana keep been draining.... if u open snow shield book 3, u cant even fight due to insufficient mp and thats mean u will only waste most of ur mp pots just for receiving damage and not dealling damage like u supposedly do.... this is what i think sory for my bad english

thnx for your opinion , but dont u think that HEU and FIRE are already enough for grinding that char that i made for PVP.

now with the masteries ,

LIGHT: do u think that the 14% increase of imbue is something ?, it is for a nuker , but for a str imbue its around 200 increase . parry ratio is not that life saving stat , u can FB your gear and have loads of parry ratio as u want. and for speed , go buy drugs , scrolls , get buffed ....

ICE : since the pills are bugged , this mastery leaves us w/ guard of ice and snow shield , an essential skill but cuts mp that i already lack.

FORCE : cure bad status , mp increase , debuffs and heal.

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Originally Posted by theoneofgod You made the thread to discuss your decision, if you forgot the #1 post, go have a look. So, you are taking Force for stun? Umm, ok. Btw, the stun won't always work, even the Warlocks 80% chance of stuns don't always work, 100 100 100 big mistake. IMHO.

the new stun has 80% probability too , but force is not only for debuffs.
i cant figure out who got u convinced that a lvl 20 snow shield or 60 speed and parry would be more useful than an entire 100 cap mastery.

and yeah , check the thread's title .

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Originally Posted by makaveliepvp thnx for your opinion , but dont u think that HEU and FIRE are already enough for grinding that char that i made for PVP. now with the masteries , LIGHT: do u think that the 14% increase of imbue is something ?, it is for a nuker , but for a str imbue its around 200 increase . parry ratio is not that life saving stat , u can FB your gear and have loads of parry ratio as u want. and for speed , go buy drugs , scrolls , get buffed .... ICE : since the pills are bugged , this mastery leaves us w/ guard of ice and snow shield , an essential skill but cuts mp that i already lack. FORCE : cure bad status , mp increase , debuffs and heal. the new stun has 80% probability too , but force is not only for debuffs. i cant figure out who got u convinced that a lvl 20 snow shield or 60 speed and parry would be more useful than an entire 100 cap mastery. and yeah , check the thread's title .

Like I said.. If you want to make a purely PvP based character, that doesn't have moving speed, go Warrior / Warlock, that is my judgment, and the title is called " what do u think " so everyone here is giving their opinions, so am I.

If you bothered to read through your thread, you would see me trying to figure out why someone would want to go 100 force at 100 cap.

Are you only planning on grinding and PvP (1 on 1) in an online MMRPG?

To what you said earlier, I'm not cockney, we don't talk like that up North.

Aye, good luck on the build anyway.

PS: Wear Garment.

~Error.