Class Discussion/Questions

03/24/2009 09:22 d'Jew#16
I would use :

2x Orbs : 20% crit dmg in slot
Suit , Boots , Gloves dlb amped or 1 slot amp or amp craft + slot
Helm : 20% crit dmg in slot
2x Rol + 2
2x BOS+4

If you extend the orbs and the helm => 30 + 30 = 60% crit dmg
Rol + 2 => 30% crit rate
Suit , boots , gloves amped + bos+4 => 21% + 2x 6% = 21 + 12 = 33% m. amp , and if both braces are sloted with amp you get and additional 6% amp => 39% m. amp

Hope it helps you
03/24/2009 23:42 -Chrome-#17
WI's need either:
2x weapon with crafted rate
1x weapon + helm with crafted rate
1x helm or 1x weapon with crafted rate + rate in slot + extended

+ 2x rol2
03/25/2009 09:21 d'Jew#18
ye on both situations it can be seen that WI needs Crit DMG to pwn ...
03/25/2009 15:53 rainzin#19
my equips are:
SUIT/GLOVES/BOOTS 14%
HELM 16%DMG INC 7%M.AMP
CRYSTAL 16% DMG INC 7%M.AMP
ORB 8% RATE INC 7%M.AMP
2XROL+2

its a good set, nice damage, and nice crits :P maybe i change my crit orb for a dmg inc?
03/25/2009 17:07 d'Jew#20
Well I understand that your orb is crafted and magic amp in slot ... if it is double slotted , insert Crit dmg in the other slot and extend it and put crit dmg in the new one too ... if its single slotted just extend it ...
03/27/2009 22:51 rainzin#21
i'll create a FB, WI dont have too much HP, i'm only rank 10 and i have 2,3k.... Full amped items or deathblow/full amp stuff for FB?
03/27/2009 23:51 d'Jew#22
FB needs :

-suit,boots,gloves = amped
-helm,orb,katana/blade = as much crit dmg as possible
-rol+2 till cr 11 , 1x rol+2 and 1x critical ring +2 till cr 18 and at cr 18 = 2x crit ring +2
-aop
-bof for pvp , exortion for pve
-earing of guard for pvp , vampiric for pve
03/28/2009 21:14 gamyun_92#23
I have a FA 90lvl but i think i must change it (or not:confused:)
What are advntgs and disadvntgs of WI and FA
PvE, PvP, and each other
Hope you understand me....
Thnx....
03/28/2009 23:38 .Kreative#24
if you want a powerfull WI, you must have good equipment
WI is STILL good in P.servers, but they are getting more and more nerfed on official
nerfed = they get more and more lame.
so, between a WI and a FA on Official (Eu cabal), i would choose a FA
04/01/2009 10:09 chikz#25
Quote:
Originally Posted by gamyun_92 View Post
I have a FA 90lvl but i think i must change it (or not:confused:)
What are advntgs and disadvntgs of WI and FA
PvE, PvP, and each other
Hope you understand me....
Thnx....
I felt the same abou my FA when I was about that level, I died too much etc.
So I made a Warrior, it was fun for a while being able to tank and deal good damage, but I didn't like that kind of gameplay. Good Pve and quite good in pvp. Not a high scorer in wars.

so, i made a Blader and got it to 121, well it was quite fun but almost a bit too easy. you're just doing the same things all the time, you don't really need skills to play one. ( I mean gaming skills of course.)
TG was very easy, dealing damage.

But now, I'm back at my FA. It's quite good in Pve if you get vamp gear.
I don't pvp alot now, since I don't have the right equip, but it's good if you know how to handle it.

Nation War - Awesome.
FA is a high scorer there, I made 95 points yesterday at a Lv103 FA with bad gear, not too bad.

The gameplay of FA is really fun, according to me.
You are useful in dungeons as well.

FA

Pros :
- Fast Casting Skills
- Good Looking
- Good Pve
- Good Pvp
- Quite cheap
- Stun combos

Cons:

- Quite low hp and def
- Can be hard to solo with
- Can't use comp skill in BM1

That's all I can come up with right now, I think.
I'm not sure about wizard though.
04/01/2009 17:15 -Chrome-#26
To mission war:

Warior are for sure the mass destroyer, bm2 and just kill everything.

Wizard is for hit and run. Hit the enemy, blink/dash away + heal, hit the enemy, ... . They have the highest damage output, especially as bringer with bm2.

Blader can also be nice on tg, but never as good as wa/wi. They are mostly builder hunter.

Shielder are mostly only the tanks with Art of Defense to block the enemys.

Force Archer... a bit damage in bm2, nothing more. Their heal is useless on tg.

Force Blader are nearly the same as Shielder, they debuff the enemys. Nice to protect builder.




At the end:
WA/FS/BL with full mithril and so on with bm+aura are just insane and nearly unkillable if the equip of your enemys isn't as good as yours.
WI as I said, pure damage.





For pve:

All classes are good in pve with good equip,.

I guess blader is really the easiest class to play, not easy though. Nice damage and highest dps in bm2 with his buffs. Their bm2 is only damage vs a single target which isn't really nice but the damage is high, as long as you have enough attack. Attack and amp increses the damage in bm2 dramatically. If you can perfectly retarget, bm2 will be very very very very nice.
Their bm1 is already nice on low level because you have max rate and also a big damage bonus. Using 2x crit dmg+2 makes the bm1 amazing.

Archer are the supporter and healer, but also nice damage + stun. Their bm1 is useless. Their bm2 is offering 2 pistols which allows them to attack 2 enemys.

Wizard has endless stun... Very nice for leveling up. And also high damage but low defense + low hp, so they die fast. Their bm1 is nothing special. They can cast 2 spells at once in their bm2 which is very very nice.

Warior have just high def and much hp. But they shouldn't try to tank too much monster though. They don't have good stun skills. Their bm1 is not nice and not bad. Their bm2 is great, since you will gain aoe (area of effect) damage on normal attack. It's a sythe which has very nice damage if you retarget.

Shielder... I don't know very much about them. Their skills are the most flashy ones ingame^^. They are the only class which can be hybrid, which means sword and magic together. Of course only sword or only magic is stronger, but they have at least a choice. They CAN have the highest def from all characters, so mainly a tanker. They are the only class with an "aggro-steal-spell", which means they can force monsters to attack the shielder.
They can throw their shields in bm2, which is not uber damage but still nice if you retarget.

Force Blader has also good stuns and they are the most (!!) annoying class in tg. They can debuff you with unmovable, mana freeze, lower def, lower resist crit rate and so on. They are the class with the most hit points in their battlemode. They reach easily 5k+ hp in their bm1.
A GM once said that FB is THE class for future..
Different to other classes, they can also use magic points. They gain even more hp in their battlemode with magic points, so sometimes it could be wiseley to use an eos and not eof.


At the end:
All classes are nice, choose what you want to play.



greets
04/03/2009 10:31 .Kreative#27
nice guide, kevin, nice guide. i wanna talk to you on MSN about something.
BTW: FBs DONT GET MORE HP/DEF/ATK/w/e if you use MAGIC AMP (in BM1)
i read a thread about this on EU cabal. somebody tested it: no-equip + bm1 (let's say 1400 atk) and +7% magic amp boots + bm1(1399 attack)
the 1 difference (or less) is because of the SP.
more sp = more atk/def/hp => less sp = less atk/def/hp/...
proved it. try to search a bit on EU cabal forum
and please try to explain some things for Private Servers too.
FB WILL BE A BETTER CLASS. (uber BM2)
BUT- FBs suck in Pservers.
WI suck on EU - WI still good-ish... on p.servers
and i, as a FA, never use completer. it has ~4 seconds cast time... while lances and sh*t got 1.3.
i use fire lance, terra lance, crit shot/shadow shot , G.M. as a PvE combo.
it's a good combo. i hate too many cast time.
04/03/2009 13:59 -Chrome-#28
Ty, but I said magic, not magic amp. And I never said anything about attack/defense/... . FB get +hp for every magic point in their bm1.

Pserver have currently the old FB's bm1 which is a waste. The new bm1 is much better because now they can have buffs + bm.
Pserver have currently the old FB's bm2 which is a waste. The new bm2 is just imba.


And WI 1000000000000% doesn't suck on official. NEVER. Tbh, everyone who says this doesn't know how to play WI ;). WI was the only "normal" equipped one who solo'd Quadra. A party of only 3 WIs killed the first 3 bosses in temple B2F.
I'm not sure about the Cannon bug on official, because they had once a bugged damage which means even lances were stronger.
And completer... Well it sux but it's nice as a finisher/stunner.
04/07/2009 10:49 NovaCygni#29
Quote:
Originally Posted by -Chrome- View Post
Ty, but I said magic, not magic amp. And I never said anything about attack/defense/... . FB get +hp for every magic point in their bm1.

Pserver have currently the old FB's bm1 which is a waste. The new bm1 is much better because now they can have buffs + bm.
Pserver have currently the old FB's bm2 which is a waste. The new bm2 is just imba.


And WI 1000000000000% doesn't suck on official. NEVER. Tbh, everyone who says this doesn't know how to play WI ;). WI was the only "normal" equipped one who solo'd Quadra. A party of only 3 WIs killed the first 3 bosses in temple B2F.
I'm not sure about the Cannon bug on official, because they had once a bugged damage which means even lances were stronger.
And completer... Well it sux but it's nice as a finisher/stunner.
Actually FB is the largest damage dealer in TG if used correctly... and any noob fag wizard can rely on there spells splash damage, thus its EASIAR for them to score higher. I assure you thougn, That if I see a group of 20 people bottleneckd fighting somewhere, I WILL Pop all of them (* And yes, Pro's like me refuse to use PvP exploits, im on about legit killing here *), not to mention my habit of allways normally finishing in top 5

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO NOT BECOME A "Relog pl0x" N00b in TG...

Did I mention noob FBers dont jump the battlefield, If you havnt mastered the art of Dashing/Debuffing/Fadestepping in combo, then your not a pro, and by jump I mean using skills that move you character around the screen over large groups like assinate, used correctly you can "Hop" over an entire defensive line and pop the squishy WI's and FA's shooting from behind there lines!

BM1 Does actually give increased Attk,Def,DefRate,AtkRate,HP and HP Regen increased by values diffrently (* I.e. 20 Magic attk is only +2HP Regen, yet is 200HP I believe.. or around that anyway *)


Anyhowz, anyone get the impression im a FB ;o

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Chrome- View Post
it could be wiseley to use an eos and not eof.
Hmmmmmm.... U mean carry a SPARE EoS that u can equip before casting BM1, then once its cast switch BACK to the EoF... ;) Oh and did I mention, Manacondence potions, U only need to use it before u start the bm1, meaning u can cancel it afterwords and use a SwordMaster potion (* <3 Basiccraft xD *)
04/07/2009 22:46 chesta_619#30
which cities can i get the best gears for a dex fb?