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Originally Posted by evestu
i agree with some of this what you said but what you have put here
Then drew and most of the others who have posted guides before the server files was even released should have not made guides ?,
Guides are supposed to be made to start you off and then you work from the basic concept
Did none of us follow them to english patch and everything else we did when we first started
Also you know as well as i do the arabia update is more complex to add for beginners
We have had it working as well
Have we got a public server : no
Do we make a profit : no
Can we make a video and post screen shots, if we want : yes
The users and public will know what servers are best to join,
And test it with a free account and if it is not a good server you should not spend any $ there anyway
That is just plain stupid
The database and client can be released with all the Arabia adds done
will we do? this i dont think so because this will just make all servers the same
But will they take it from the media pk2s of the servers that do have them then yes
But can they get them running idk.
Maybe this is why the devs who really know what there doing dont even post anymore.
And why they need to? they dont need guides there already that good
im not flaming or moaning it is a point that needed to be addressed.
Good luck to all
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Drew guides were always well documented and he explained very well and with a good structure, step by step, what he was going to explain on his guide, the theory part explained the concept he wanted to make and how he will do it, and the other was always well explained.
PK2 guides were not that important back before the server files release because it didnt gave money, the people like me, who where making guides, always explained well why we were about to modify something and for what reason, and people still experimented a lot with the client and always learned something new by themselves. The problem is that since the serverfiles release, pk2 edit knoweldge actually is profitable, and you can get money from it, so instead of learning, people are just looking for fast and easy money and simply copy stuff from guides and sell it to pservers saying its "his work", or simply make a server and make threads everywhere expecting everyone to help him to keep his shitty server up so he can continue getting money from the players.
The current guides about serverfiles doesnt explain a shit about what the user is doing, it just says "insert this shit on this table, then insert this other shit on this other table, and also execute this query", without explain anything really, just telling what to do for make something.
Few examples of old and new guides:
My pk2 edit guides:
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I used the same structure as drew guides because they were always easy to follow and understand.
Pushedx random guide:
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You actually always learnt something from the guides, you know what you wanted to do, what you was doing and what every single thing did.
Actual guides examples:
Silkroad-R Skills:
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Where is the theory? What the fuck does those lines do? For what are the Group Skill lines? What does the txt files that I donwload contain?
Custom names on NPC's:
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No explanation of nothing at all, what the fuck did I just applied on my server?
And I could continue. Guides are not guides anymore, but steps you have to follow without know what you are doing to apply something on your server in order to get more players and money.
I hope I made my point.