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03/28/2008 18:29 fridaykw#16
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Originally Posted by evanxxxm View Post
unknownone@
if CO change key, they change
if people figure out, they figure
what does it mean "A good knowledge of ASM and few hours is all that's needed"?
it doesnt mean anything
its just like people saying, "well, a good programmer can easily make something similar or better than SV in few hours"
is that good programmer you? me? someone we know? someone that willing to spend time?

as simple as a AHK encrypter and a short 10 digit key
Interesting..... Remember when the FANTOM was released(SV small screen, a puzzebird release)(short 10 digit key) (you don't fail at life... if you get my point)It's people like you that speak with a voice of reason
even a brute force program will take hours to do it (10^72+ possible combo)
(not considering if its sending to server, server will stop u)
yea sure, we can ask the "good knowledge ASM" guy, right?

the fact is that, the CID team does not succeed (yet or forever)Do they Fail?????
and if they succeed, and willing to release it to public. we will back to those massive proxy users days. CO team may or may not change the key/encryption, but if they do, is the CID team ready for another challenge?
Very good question.... and Point. (Get's you think about something that was said on the CO forum) Interesting how they (TQ let's information be posted about the "Proxys" on there.. On that's right Tq doesnt check their own forums... I guess they fail, much more simple to come here or Google!:) using hundreds of hours and what do they get back? some people yelling "VIRUS" or something "SUCKS, NOT WORKING" or just a button of "thanks", o really great
(for details, u can check few pages inside the CID proxy thread)
Or right on the front page ! We call them namesayers( NOOBS)<--- look that up... its old word. you'll have to look in the urban dictionary to find it LOL
sometimes for a programmer
input * 100 = outcome * 1
thats very discouraging Very Discouraging to say the least. I've learn a lot just from programers,( Hackers n Such) I was able to fix a program that has worked since 4354... :) With outcome and Discouraging as the namesayers are. why would i post it. or even a DYI...
besides, seems like they get very little support from Underground. or maybe the fact is that no one in underground is such a "good ASM" guy that can figure the code out.
The people who made most of the original proxies - chocoman, qonquer, behelit, ultimation etc - are all capable of cracking new encryptions if need be, had they thought it was a difficult task they would've stuck to using memory based tools too.

AMEN!

i also feel sorry for them because most people can not provide any help to them. not only that, but people are just whining about "HURRY UP" "WHEN IS IT COMING OUT" "IT SHOULD BE EASY, COME ON" and thats very discouraging to them
(at least thats what i get from your idea that they are no good ASM programmer, and if they were it should be piece of cake that can be done in few hours. i know that might be a true fact, but they are trying their best, so i think they deserve no complaints. thats why i got a little bit mad)

at the end, if they can figure out, but decided not to release it in public
i will also support that idea

from the feedbacks, time consuming and lack of "good" ASM knowledge, thats what holding them back.
of course, deciding whether or not it is "wasting time" or "enjoying" for cracking the encryption is totally depend on them.


Man, If you could only closed the thread ...... untill... whenever... I'm assuming the "X" creator would have to ask.... 140+ of NAMESAYER BS....!

Over all I have to give you credit...

YOU HAVEN'T FAILED AT LIFE


:D

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03/30/2008 01:32 silverstreak#17
Hell I'd pay a reasonable fee for a working and "clean" proxy even if it didnt have aimbot. I just want that liberty of being able to use a proxy. I want to be able to sit back and make my CPU work for me. Kinda like "I say jump , and it says how high!"
03/31/2008 01:08 Chad1122#18
Here is what ticks me off... when tq decided to do this patch and stuff stopped working wat happened WITHIN A DAY both CID and Ms hacks had less than 5 stars. why? because when they were working no one had the respect for either of them to give the deserved thanks.... i had +5 stared it before hand etc so i couldnt do much. If i was M and the CID people if i got my programs/ proxies working i wouldnt release them. And if i did id SELL THEM. If they give them back free then i have some serious respect for them. Most people dont deserve these hacks and i can wait. who remembers back in chocos last couple months when people made coments when it was not working and he said he was spending time with his girl friend.... people told him to break up with her and work on COtobo back when HE had quit... thats just sad people. its a game things stop working get used to it. If you have to learn programming and make ur own OR play without them.. just my 2 cents
03/31/2008 02:09 bigasstrojan#19
loads of opinions i see bout this but i think the real question is why now?

Why have tq suddenly woken up and started doing this?

Oh and unknownone where have ya been lol whats co done to u dude?
Answer: well it can 1 of a whole load of things theve done which pissed me and everyone else of lol but even tho co has pissed you off its good to see ur still around to talk to us lower folk xD
03/31/2008 03:21 Tw3ak#20
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Originally Posted by evanxxxm View Post
they will give up eventually
CO will definitely change the decrypt if massive proxy arrives again
personally i dont think it is a hard thing to change the decrypt code compare to one has to figure out what is the decrypt code and create a encrypt program
and do u think they will spend another couple hundreds of hours trying to figure out if CO change the decryption again and again?

stick with memory bots and pixel bots are guaranteer working
Quote:
Originally Posted by evanxxxm View Post
unknownone@
if CO change key, they change
if people figure out, they figure
what does it mean "A good knowledge of ASM and few hours is all that's needed"?
it doesnt mean anything
its just like people saying, "well, a good programmer can easily make something similar or better than SV in few hours"
is that good programmer you? me? someone we know? someone that willing to spend time?

as simple as a AHK encrypter and a short 10 digit key
even a brute force program will take hours to do it (10^72+ possible combo)
(not considering if its sending to server, server will stop u)
yea sure, we can ask the "good knowledge ASM" guy, right?

the fact is that, the CID team does not succeed (yet or forever)
and if they succeed, and willing to release it to public. we will back to those massive proxy users days. CO team may or may not change the key/encryption, but if they do, is the CID team ready for another challenge?

using hundreds of hours and what do they get back?
some people yelling "VIRUS" or something "SUCKS, NOT WORKING"
or just a button of "thanks", o really great
(for details, u can check few pages inside the CID proxy thread)

sometimes for a programmer
input * 100 = outcome * 1
thats very discouraging
besides, seems like they get very little support from Underground. or maybe the fact is that no one in underground is such a "good ASM" guy that can figure the code out.
Quote:
Originally Posted by evanxxxm View Post
unknownone@


exactly, when the encryptions are easy, they can do it
when it is slightly complicated
1. give up (maybe dont even think it worths time cracking it)
2. Wait for other people to crack it, steal the method and create its own proxy
3. like now, trying, but seems no progress

i have nothing against proxy. i always think proxy are > other type of bots.
if the CID team can figure it out, for a noob programmer like me, i will also feel good that they can achieve something that normally cant

on the other hand, i also feel sorry for them because most people can not provide any help to them. not only that, but people are just whining about "HURRY UP" "WHEN IS IT COMING OUT" "IT SHOULD BE EASY, COME ON" and thats very discouraging to them
(at least thats what i get from your idea that they are no good ASM programmer, and if they were it should be piece of cake that can be done in few hours. i know that might be a true fact, but they are trying their best, so i think they deserve no complaints. thats why i got a little bit mad)

at the end, if they can figure out, but decided not to release it in public
i will also support that idea

from the feedbacks, time consuming and lack of "good" ASM knowledge, thats what holding them back.
of course, deciding whether or not it is "wasting time" or "enjoying" for cracking the encryption is totally depend on them.
This is exactly why they will get no help from me with the asm to fix it because of your reasons stated above hit it dead on same reason i quit giving out hints to Queen to fix venom when she's as smart as a rock honestly and only kept it goin off me or someone else tellin her how to fix it she couldn't code herself out of a wet paperbag with schematics inside yet took all the credit like a noob for a proxy she didn't even know how to make or even how it worked.

Fixing proxy and cotobo ect was easy releasing them public to noobs is just foolish, It reminds me of coding vac proof hacks for cs and css just to have 3000 kids beg ya 24 hours a day to fix it everytime there was a vac update lol co is the same if not worse.

leechin noobs that don't give a rats butt how many hours you have spent on something only how fast they can get there hands on it and are ungrateful little punk kids that just want to hack everything on everyone elses time and money why should good programers give it out ?? If people were smart they would do what i and others have done and make all the leechers pay if they want a cheat that is the only way to go if ya ask me.

Sure there will always be another upcoming programmer that wants his 15 mins of fame that will release something public when others have stopped but once exposed to the leeching and begging that goes on here long enough it always results in the same outcome which is they quit.

You want cotobo and proxy ect ?? Then pay $ for em like ya do SV or anything else to make it worth the developers time otherwise pick up a book and learn how to do it yourself.
03/31/2008 03:31 bigasstrojan#21
Tw3ak why would anyone wanna pay for there hacks tho surely if that was the case they would just paypal dbs instead its alot safer after all.

Also u may be right about leechers but alot of people like myself are very grateful for the work people like yourself put into these games and regularly express there gratitude
03/31/2008 03:46 UPSman2#22
AHHH!!!!!... the paper bag is back!!

@Tw3ak
i agree with you mostly... but it's always fun for me to practice my programming skills and to devolp them (though its getting boring with the spam) ...but 1/1000 eventualy do learn how to do it themselves...

its like passing on a baton, eventually your tired of doing what your doing so you pass it on to another
03/31/2008 07:03 Chad1122#23
wow did u seriosly ask why would people pay big....... LOOK AT SV
03/31/2008 07:03 Chad1122#24
wow did u seriosly ask why would people pay big....... LOOK AT SV
03/31/2008 13:57 Vivian#25
the only reason i use CID's proxy is cause of the functions like !f, so it makes the 120 quest take half the time... when they do fix it, dont have an aimbot... the proxy help in many ways, its almost a free sv, cause of its auto lvl. just sayin..