[UNOFFICIAL] List Of Legit and Scam Providers List

10/18/2025 19:00 lort1234#2971
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Originally Posted by theminkman View Post
Payment complete :yes:



hey ollie :3, can i get a free key? :rolleyes:

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Nah, cry about it.
10/18/2025 19:01 !nvictus-Load#2972
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hey ollie :3, can i get a free key? :rolleyes:

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:dpatrick: :yes:
10/18/2025 20:02 astroware#2973
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Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load View Post
:dpatrick: :yes:
:wololo:
10/18/2025 21:29 theminkman#2974
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Originally Posted by lort1234 View Post
Nah, cry about it.
Men we pay you for Tier 1, why u delete us from Tier 1, we want money back now!
10/18/2025 21:31 lort1234#2975
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Originally Posted by theminkman View Post
Men we pay you for Tier 1, why u delete us from Tier 1, we want money back now!
Imagine being so pathetic, gl with your life. :p
10/18/2025 21:35 moretkunem#2976
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Originally Posted by HVH_KINGPIN_NN_BLASTER View Post
In general i think this discussion is stupid, menus should be judged based on their accessibility features (screen reader support, color blindness filters, DLSS scaling for fps)

So far very little cheats have actually invented into making their menus compete with things like chrome. ACUS used to have a beautiful web-based menu that supported this, that was removed due to an EAC detection, and now people are complaining about his modern menu? Good.

UI interfaces were solved years ago, frameworks like electron and react exist, they are meant to make it easy to create interfaces (i cant code, but chatgpt coded me an example one 5 minutes, that puts all of these "good" menus to shame). I fail to understand why these so called "competent" developers fail to create functional UI that meets any sane accessibility practices.

evilCheats is not meant to ever reach tier 1, it used to be a functional cheat with lots of features and then ACUS removed them all, i still remember when he removed NAME ESP because it was detected. In 2021 Evil Cheats was also cheaper, a case of late stage capitalism working where he out competed all other providers by selling an amazing cheat (with a chrome based menu, lots of features, and barley any detections). Back then, sure it would have been tier 1. Now? Its a joke, is ESP only. As someone who bought the private, then slotted, then private, then had to pay again for private i have been there for the full history of this product. It went on a downhill slope since he removed the trust system from the loader and let EAC employees buy in. There is a reason Invictus exit scammed, he peaked in 2019 and has been spiraling like a crazed lunatic for years now. ACUS will probably ban me from the hack after posting this (shame really, i liked dual injecting MATRIX on top, just to get any features that worked)

Honestly purge the last 10 pages, so much drama managed to ruin a decent thread and a long time reader like myself had to step in to clean this garbage up. :topnep::topnep:
youre completely right and everyone disagreeing doesnt understand how gpu acceleration works. the reason cheat menus are slow is because theyre not using dlss upscaling on the ui elements. i actually tested this by forcing dlss through nvidia inspector on my menu and it went from 45fps to 160fps. the problem is most cheat devs dont know how to enable it in their directx hooks because they never learned proper graphics programming.

the chrome menu thing is actually way more complicated than people think. when acus removed it he claimed it was for eac detection but the real reason is chrome uses too much ram and it was causing peoples computers to bluescreen. i had this happen to me three times before they removed it. now everyone complains about the new menu but at least my pc doesnt crash anymore.

i bought lifetime in 2021 and then they switched to subscription only and my lifetime access just converted to a monthly payment automatically. then when they did the security update in 2023 my account didnt transfer over so i had to buy it again to keep using it. support said this was normal because it was technically a new product version. ive probably spent over 600 dollars at this point but thats just how software licensing works i guess.

honestly i just run my own custom hypervisor kernel bypass now that operates below ring 0 at the bootloader level. took me like 3 weeks to set up but now eac cant even see the cheat because its running in a separate memory partition that the operating system doesnt have access to.
10/18/2025 21:45 theminkman#2977
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Originally Posted by moretkunem View Post
honestly i just run my own custom hypervisor kernel bypass now that operates below ring 0 at the bootloader level. took me like 3 weeks to set up but now eac cant even see the cheat because its running in a separate memory partition that the operating system doesnt have access to.
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10/18/2025 22:00 moretkunem#2978
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Originally Posted by theminkman View Post
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actually i havent been banned once in 8 months of using it so i dont know what youre talking about. the hypervisor partition operates at the firmware level which is below where eac even scans. if you actually understood how uefi bootloaders work youd know that memory allocated during the boot sequence is protected from kernel level scanning. this is literally how enterprise drm systems work.

the reason you got banned is probably because you didnt disable secure boot in your bios before injecting. the memory mapping only works when legacy oprom is enabled otherwise the payload cant allocate into the protected gpu memory region. most people skip the bios configuration step and then wonder why it doesnt work. not my problem you cant follow basic instructions you tubercular manlet
10/18/2025 22:10 theme#2979
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Originally Posted by HVH_KINGPIN_NN_BLASTER View Post
In general i think this discussion is stupid, menus should be judged based on their accessibility features (screen reader support, color blindness filters, DLSS scaling for fps)

So far very little cheats have actually invented into making their menus compete with things like chrome. ACUS used to have a beautiful web-based menu that supported this, that was removed due to an EAC detection, and now people are complaining about his modern menu? Good.

UI interfaces were solved years ago, frameworks like electron and react exist, they are meant to make it easy to create interfaces (i cant code, but chatgpt coded me an example one 5 minutes, that puts all of these "good" menus to shame). I fail to understand why these so called "competent" developers fail to create functional UI that meets any sane accessibility practices.

evilCheats is not meant to ever reach tier 1, it used to be a functional cheat with lots of features and then ACUS removed them all, i still remember when he removed NAME ESP because it was detected. In 2021 Evil Cheats was also cheaper, a case of late stage capitalism working where he out competed all other providers by selling an amazing cheat (with a chrome based menu, lots of features, and barley any detections). Back then, sure it would have been tier 1. Now? Its a joke, is ESP only. As someone who bought the private, then slotted, then private, then had to pay again for private i have been there for the full history of this product. It went on a downhill slope since he removed the trust system from the loader and let EAC employees buy in. There is a reason Invictus exit scammed, he peaked in 2019 and has been spiraling like a crazed lunatic for years now. ACUS will probably ban me from the hack after posting this (shame really, i liked dual injecting MATRIX on top, just to get any features that worked)

Honestly purge the last 10 pages, so much drama managed to ruin a decent thread and a long time reader like myself had to step in to clean this garbage up. :topnep::topnep:
Obviously your the type of person to pick a cheat based off the menu looks and not detection rate or feature quality.
10/18/2025 22:58 moretkunem#2980
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Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load View Post
DLSS for a 2D menu, with a couple of checkboxes and lines on your screen? Study the words you use.

You wont get banned since I dont know who you are, if i knew, I would dm you, send you a refund and ban you after. You would most likely argue then that you got banned for criticism but this is a rant and calling us a scammer even though our history with invictus is known and we ported every customer over. Matrix is developed by chasenelson, the very same developer that was inspired by evilcheats in 2017-2018 to start their own project.

I have been doing this since 2014, my decisions on features, menu and other implementations is based on experience that you would never understand.

Enjoy!
this attitude is exactly what i expect from someone running a tier 3 operation, your hubris blinds you to the issues your customers experience

"i have been doing this since 2014"
congratulations you geriatric fossil, but doing something for a decade just means youve had ten years to perfect being mediocre. my neighbor has been mowing his lawn since 1995 and it still looks like a third world country. threatening to ban people for criticism is genuinely the funniest thing ive read all week. "if i knew who you are" you sound like a divorced dad threatening to ground someone elses kid. imagine being so rattled by a forum post that you start roleplaying disciplinary action in your head.

"experience you would never understand" yeah okay gandalf, very mysterious and wise of you. youre not protecting ancient forbidden knowledge, youre just mad that someone pointed out your product is shit and your solution is to have a public meltdown about it. the fact that you wrote an entire paragraph seething at a random forum user really says everything about where your priorities are. instead of fixing anything you decided the better use of time was to come here and have a crisis. inspiring stuff, really makes me confident in the product.
10/18/2025 23:13 !nvictus-Load#2981
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Originally Posted by moretkunem View Post
this attitude is exactly what i expect from someone running a tier 3 operation, your hubris blinds you to the issues your customers experience

"i have been doing this since 2014"
congratulations you geriatric fossil, but doing something for a decade just means youve had ten years to perfect being mediocre. my neighbor has been mowing his lawn since 1995 and it still looks like a third world country. threatening to ban people for criticism is genuinely the funniest thing ive read all week. "if i knew who you are" you sound like a divorced dad threatening to ground someone elses kid. imagine being so rattled by a forum post that you start roleplaying disciplinary action in your head.

"experience you would never understand" yeah okay gandalf, very mysterious and wise of you. youre not protecting ancient forbidden knowledge, youre just mad that someone pointed out your product is shit and your solution is to have a public meltdown about it. the fact that you wrote an entire paragraph seething at a random forum user really says everything about where your priorities are. instead of fixing anything you decided the better use of time was to come here and have a crisis. inspiring stuff, really makes me confident in the product.
The only one having a meltdown is you, I'm sitting here enjoying my popcorn.
10/18/2025 23:16 moretkunem#2982
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Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load View Post
The only one having a meltdown is you, I'm sitting here enjoying my popcorn.
popcorn tastes better when you're not having an anxiety attack about forum posts but you do you
10/19/2025 09:35 lort1234#2983
List changed.

In the future all: Will be done though this thread, if it isn't done here it won't be considered information towards the list.
- Ban reports.
- Accusations.
- Adding requests.
- Information.

In the future no outside reports, requests, information will be added to the list. (All of the already provided information will stay)
10/19/2025 10:55 ajogjasogj#2984
Anyone heard anything about Mason & BTG for rust?
10/19/2025 17:07 !nvictus-Load#2985
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Untrusted even though they have been in the scene forever :thinking:
He has to give some benefit for the money, tiers don't exist anymore, so lets remove the only other undetected internal. :D This list is a joke, that is why I banned him from my cheat and discord 2 days ago. That is why we are untrusted now. :rolleyes: