[UNOFFICIAL] List Of Legit and Scam Providers List

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Originally Posted by theminkman [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] Untrusted even though they have been in the scene forever :thinking:

He has to give some benefit for the money, tiers don't exist anymore, so lets remove the only other undetected internal. :D This list is a joke, that is why I banned him from my cheat and discord 2 days ago. That is why we are untrusted now. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load He has to give some benefit for the money, tiers don't exist anymore, so lets remove the only other undetected internal. :D This list is a joke, that is why I banned him from my cheat and discord 2 days ago. That is why we are untrusted now. :rolleyes:

To be honest the tier system was fine but makes no sense to just add a new cheat in the scene instantly to tier 1 when others have to climb to gain tier 1.

Kinda funny of moderators removing my message without any reasoning when its on the thread topic questioning why a vey known provider is listed as untrusted out of the blue.

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Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load He has to give some benefit for the money, tiers don't exist anymore, so lets remove the only other undetected internal. :D This list is a joke, that is why I banned him from my cheat and discord 2 days ago. That is why we are untrusted now. :rolleyes:

The only reason you banned me, was because I shared my opinion about Evil cheats 2 days ago.

Well maybe if you don't ban 50 people from your discord a week and actually provide a product they dont come on this thread to complain about, I wouldn't place it as untrusted.

EvilCheats is by far the cheat most people complain about in this thread.

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Originally Posted by lort1234 The only reason you banned me, was because I shared my opinion about Evil cheats 2 days ago. Well maybe if you don't ban 50 people from your discord a week and actually provide a product they dont come on this thread to complain about, I wouldn't place it as untrusted. EvilCheats is by far the cheat most people complain about in this thread.

Totally. The guy with one post was called a liar, and now the one crying about Evilcheats with one post is Messia. Keep that double standard list growing, our almighty lord. We will not kneel again. :handsdown:

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Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load Totally. The guy with one post was called a liar, and now the one crying about Evilcheats with one post is Messia. Keep that double standard list growing, our almighty lord. We will not kneel again. :handsdown:

Didn't I change the list? So how exactly is it double standard now?

And it's now the only guy complaining, EvilCheats is the provider with most regular complaints.

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Originally Posted by lort1234 Didn't I change the list? So how exactly is it double standard now? And it's now the only guy complaining, EvilCheats is the provider with most regular complaints.

But how does that make EvilCheat Untrusted? People know what they are paying for and most cheats had some sort of recode or downtime when Facepunch released the Encryption update.

Internals had a harder timer updating as well due to the usage of hooks and many internals had auto update instantly on game update except 1 or 2 offsets that only changes on big updates aka Force wipes to prevent people dumping the .dll and using it.

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Originally Posted by theminkman But how does that make EvilCheat Untrusted? People know what they are paying for and most cheats had some sort of recode or downtime when Facepunch released the Encryption update. Internals had a harder timer updating as well due to the usage of hooks and many internals had auto update instantly on game update except 1 or 2 offsets that only changes on big updates aka Force wipes to prevent people dumping the .dll and using it.

Read peoples complains and if you got questions, ask them.

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Originally Posted by theminkman But how does that make EvilCheat Untrusted? People know what they are paying for and most cheats had some sort of recode or downtime when Facepunch released the Encryption update. Internals had a harder timer updating as well due to the usage of hooks and many internals had auto update instantly on game update except 1 or 2 offsets that only changes on big updates aka Force wipes to prevent people dumping the .dll and using it.

I believe this is exaclty where the difference lies mate, where EC took frankly too long, and way too low quality to update, others (NBT) were up to date almost instantly after the 2nd update, same goes for chudvision, that's why update-time was so cruicial to the quality part and tier list part (i believe)


I'll get back to it later more in detail

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Originally Posted by lort1234 Didn't I change the list? So how exactly is it double standard now? And it's now the only guy complaining, EvilCheats is the provider with most regular complaints.

So many complaints, huh? Funny how not a single one ever made it to me. At the end of the day, you are the one who needs to satisfy your audience. I’ll keep satisfying mine. So much for your so called "constant communication" with providers.

I will not investigate or take one side or the other anymore, the list will simple be of the experience/information people share on here now.

The list doesn't provide:
- Any colour that could be associated positive or negative with any provider.
- Doesn't provide any other information that the needed. (Undetected or Detected, for untrusted/scam a little more is provided)
- Doesn't "rank" or "place" any provider above another one, they are all mixed in together now.
- Will only be updated with information that is provided though this thread for everyone to see and confirm.
- No links in any way to make it as fair and unbiased for everyone, people must find it them self.

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Originally Posted by astroware I believe this is exaclty where the difference lies mate, where EC took frankly too long, and way too low quality to update, others (NBT) were up to date almost instantly after the 2nd update, same goes for chudvision, that's why update-time was so cruicial to the quality part and tier list part (i believe) I'll get back to it later more in detail

ChudVision was not quick updating for Encryption update, what are you smoking? their cheat was half broken for multiple months and then they swapped to "V2" that didn't even have a third of the features that V1 had, and V2 to this day still dont got all the features Chud V1 has.

Also it depends on how the cheat was coded from the start, you cannot compare External with proper Internals. I had multiple friends with internal cheats that was using class oriented programming obtaining offsets automatically for all different classes that RustClient had which literally broke the entire cheat when encryption update was released by Facepunch

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Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load So many complaints, huh? Funny how not a single one ever made it to me. At the end of the day, you are the one who needs to satisfy your audience. I’ll keep satisfying mine. So much for your so called "constant communication" with providers.

Well maybe it's because you ban 50 people a month, or maybe it's because they are scared of getting banned that they won't complain directly to you.

However you are still the provider with the single most complained cheat on this thread.

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Originally Posted by lort1234 Well maybe it's because you ban 50 people a month, or maybe it's because they are scared of getting banned that they won't complain directly to you. However you are still the provider with the single most complained cheat on this thread.

A whole lot of nonsense, as usual. I was simply saying you should communicate with the provider.. you know, like you keep bragging about doing.

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Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load A whole lot of nonsense, as usual. I was simply saying you should communicate with the provider.. you know, like you keep bragging about doing.

Well if you haven't noticed the list have changed, the way i maintain it have changed.

I won't be communicating with any provider outside of this, in relation to any information/changed being done on the list.

I will use my discord for personal use now.

This is the doing of people not appreciating the hours of work i have put into this list and always doubting me and my credibility, even though there haven't been a single concrete proof of any wrong doing from my side.