Zygor Classic | Retail & Other Addons | Updated

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Originally Posted by phaxy120 Are the Naowh classic ui´s also the one for forever or do you dont have them?

Did you try the file?

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Originally Posted by Descentralizado Is it there? Yes. People keep on assuming it is not there, all because it is not "labeled" as they want it to be. Just one point: you say nothing about their insults and abuse. Exactly. Let me quote:" as it doesn't show what guides are included in the package." Actually, it does. But people have no idea what they are looking for. How would they know that it is not included? Becuase it is not named exactly what they want it to be. Exactly.

First: I am not supporting the insults he directed towards you in any way, and his behavior is unacceptable. BUT:

Yes, the guides are not labeled, and that is the exact reason why questions like this keep coming up.
In my opinion, it is an absolutely valid question.
I was wondering about this myself, and I want to know the answer before I download the package.
Maybe there is a way to know but not without researching version numbers.
Unlike you, most people don't spend hours in this forum and don't have nearly the same level of knowledge about this stuff; they just pop in to download the newest version and that's it.
For some reason, however, you are evading giving a clear answer to that question.

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Zitat von Selevere Beitrag anzeigen Well yes, obviously its ended, but RXP exists for forever, and they have prepared it, so i was wondering what was included in the "RXP" linked in the first post, as it doesn't show what guides are included in the package.

That was his question! It is a clear and valid question. Your answer to this was:

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Zitat von Descentralizado Beitrag anzeigen So it has ended. You claim it does not show. But do not say where. When it is there.

What does that even mean? That is completely beside the point.
Either you completely misunderstood a clear question, or you are intentionally refusing to give a clear answer because you want people to download the package and check for themselves.
A simple "yes, it's included" or "no, it's not" would have been enough, and none of this beef would have happened.
But you decided to make it complicated and your answers give me the feeling that you do not want to share this information or, for some reason, refuse to be clear.
So, in a way, you are not completely blameless for how this turned out.

Anyway i appreciate your work for giving us free guides!

So, am I expected to label the guides for every possible preference? The guidance is already there. The problem is that people often fail to check whether they have performed a clean installation or are using the correct software. Instead, they blame the files.

I have repeatedly explained that the information is included. I cannot be held responsible for people choosing not to read the instructions.

You claim I offer no support, yet instead of offering constructive feedback or assistance, you chose to criticise. That makes your accusation difficult to justify.

What is frustrating is that many of the people making the biggest demands are those who have never contributed or offered any help themselves. You are not blameless in this situation either.

The guidance is provided free of charge, yet people still complain. Why should it have to cater to every individual preference? If what is provided is not good enough, people are free to create their own.

More importantly, there seems to be little concern when individuals are targeted or have their personal information used against them. Are you genuinely unaware of what is happening with this add-on and why people are going missing?

If people insist on turning this into something that targets individuals, they should not be surprised when serious consequences follow. We have already seen a concerning case of this.

I am happy to provide something for free, but I will not accept responsibility for people refusing to follow the guidance or take responsibility for their own actions.

Era, HC, classic, anniversary and retail. Are not labeled, so why do people not say anything about them? Oh they load in game.
Forever, people say "Does not load in game" - After the beta had ended and when I say how? No reply.

I often read the latest pages and am just horrified - horrified by how incredibly stupid some people are, and by the immense patience Descentralizado shows in responding to them.
Seriously, man, don’t waste your time on the mentally deficient. Just keep posting new versions and stick to interacting with the reasonable people.
I wouldn’t even be surprised if these were all AI bots paid for by RXP, just to drive you insane by forcing you to reply to them.

Thanks for consistently putting in the time to release updates for RXP.

Now I understand where the confusion is coming from.

People are attempting to load Forever guides in Era, despite knowing that those guides were not designed or configured for Era and are not necessarily compatible with it.

They are expecting guides created for one specific game version or expansion to automatically load in another version they were never intended to support.

That is not an installation issue; it is a compatibility issue. Guides need to be specifically configured for the game version or expansion they are intended to support.

Hello,

Do I need retail or classic for WoW Forever ? Especially RestedXP as I understand Zygor does not have a version yet.

Thank you :)

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Originally Posted by Faggyboy Hello, Do I need retail or classic for WoW Forever ? Especially RestedXP as I understand Zygor does not have a version yet. Thank you :)

It is all the same file.

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Originally Posted by Descentralizado So, am I expected to label the guides for every possible preference? The guidance is already there. The problem is that people often fail to check whether they have performed a clean installation or are using the correct software. Instead, they blame the files. I have repeatedly explained that the information is included. I cannot be held responsible for people choosing not to read the instructions. You claim I offer no support, yet instead of offering constructive feedback or assistance, you chose to criticise. That makes your accusation difficult to justify. What is frustrating is that many of the people making the biggest demands are those who have never contributed or offered any help themselves. You are not blameless in this situation either. The guidance is provided free of charge, yet people still complain. Why should it have to cater to every individual preference? If what is provided is not good enough, people are free to create their own. More importantly, there seems to be little concern when individuals are targeted or have their personal information used against them. Are you genuinely unaware of what is happening with this add-on and why people are going missing? If people insist on turning this into something that targets individuals, they should not be surprised when serious consequences follow. We have already seen a concerning case of this. I am happy to provide something for free, but I will not accept responsibility for people refusing to follow the guidance or take responsibility for their own actions. Era, HC, classic, anniversary and retail. Are not labeled, so why do people not say anything about them? Oh they load in game. Forever, people say "Does not load in game" - After the beta had ended and when I say how? No reply.

Dude, we don't care. Just post the files and stop talking so much.

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Originally Posted by wrinklyplateleaf Dude, we don't care. Just post the files and stop talking so much.

Well you do not want them posted and make so many accounts after being banned.

Forver guides are not made for Era.
So why are people trying to load it in Era?

Hey, so im new to this whole site and its somewhat overwhelming. So im wondering if the forever guide is all the way from lvl 1 to 60? Or maybe 1 to 30?
And if i have to download the one called RXP (which seems to be a full package) to get it?
Thanks for the answer.

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Originally Posted by Descentralizado Well you do not want them posted and make so many accounts after being banned. Forver guides are not made for Era. So why are people trying to load it in Era?

Dude no. I don't have time for that or to argue on the forums with everyone like a petulant child.
Just post the files and quit arguing with everyone; you're an adult, so be one.

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Originally Posted by wrinklyplateleaf Dude no. I don't have time for that or to argue on the forums with everyone like a petulant child. Just post the files and quit arguing with everyone; you're an adult, so be one.

Do not like what is posted then leave.
Well you do put on an act.
No time to argue but you came here to.

People deny the guides are there. They are loading FOREVER Guides in ERA. When they are not made for ERA, they would not show in ERa. That is because they are not ERA Guides

Guys, all the guides that RXP have released so for for Forever are present in the files provided by @[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...].

He has obfuscated them... but they are there. If you don't believe me, dig into some of the luas - or specifically the one lua in the Forever folder that is mysteriously large in size...

Don't worry about it.

Thanks for releasing the files - I look forward to future updates.

How have I done that, when they are in plain sight?

The issue people have is. They try and load forever guides on era. Knowing it’s not compatible and knowing it wouldn’t load.
That is like running retail guides on era. Then wonder why it doesn’t load.

I mean, it is obfuscated, by the definition of the word.

It is labelled as something different - it doesn't stand up to any examination - which does make it an interesting choice, as the only people you would likely trick are your less technically able user base haha.