[Unofficial] List of Legit / Scam DayZ Cheat Providers

08/11/2024 11:23 ZSOFTWARE#211
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Originally Posted by tamedbeast View Post
That's the problem though, you're a developer of a platform, but hosting a list of legit/non-legit providers, also being the deciding factor in who gets marked as detected/undetected is rather strange to me.

This is like being the Judge on your own trial, it seems rather conflicting.
It is genius marketing by them and they are trusted in the scene. I dont see this issue

I think the biggest issue is people using fake accounts for shilling, It is very obvious with certain dma providers
08/11/2024 15:20 tamedbeast#212
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Originally Posted by ZSOFTWARE View Post
It is genius marketing by them and they are trusted in the scene. I dont see this issue

I think the biggest issue is people using fake accounts for shilling, It is very obvious with certain dma providers
Shilling is common in wow scene as well, I see it happening all the time. DMA business is a shit business to be in, the sales are not that great because the userbase that owns DMA's is not very large like the internals/external cheats.

Also, you pointed out the second part "genius marketing", these legit and non-legit posts outside of the blackmarket marketplace shouldn't be a marketing vehicle for the OP of this thread. Not only is this a conflict of interest, but he's also using it as a vehicle to advertise outside of the black market.

Jus because he's a respected/trusted developer, doesn't make it good for him to host a list of other providers, while he is a provider himself.

Like I said previously, it's like being the judge at your own trial, has nothing to do with his legitness as a developer. I just find it slightly disturbing that a cheat maker is the deciding factor as to who gets on these lists, and who is not detected/undetected

These lists should have zero bias or exterior motives such as using it as your marketing vehicle. I'm sorry, but being a reputable developer owner of Proofcore immediately makes you have a bias for your product. This was just his way of indirectly marketing outside of the marketplace and making sure people see his products front and foremost over everyone else.

The fact that the admins of the forums allowed this to happen for this long is actually surprising to me, most likely it comes down to the amount of money and pays them advertising and whatnot. Anyone with any common sense would agree this is a conflict of interest.

Once again this isn't me saying Proofcore isn't reputable, this is me saying they shouldn't be managing these lists.
08/12/2024 15:20 Drewfire#213
Its an unofficial list provided by the community itself. If the community is okay with Xenos making the list why should we intervene? Everyone could create their own list if they want that [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]
08/12/2024 16:08 tamedbeast#214
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Originally Posted by Drewfire View Post
Its an unofficial list provided by the community itself. If the community is okay with Xenos making the list why should we intervene? Everyone could create their own list if they want that [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]
I dunno, the same reason that you don't allow for Mod/Admins to make lists like this, even if you put unofficial it still creates a problem (this was coming from the mouth of your own staff when I was a moderator, which is why I stepped down from being a moderator).

Of course, no one is going to say anything to Xenos, they don't want to get blacklisted by him on these lists, but I'm sure there are plenty of developers that are a little annoyed that the main developer and owner of Proofcore is the deciding factor on them being on it and not being on it. It's a catch-22, you have thousands of members on these forums that can host such lists that have a reputation on the forums, no need to have a conflict of interest and an obvious bias for their own product.

Hate you tell you, but you're wrong on this one. It's as if you're being a little tone-deaf to anything I said.

Also, no one is going to create the list, because there is already a list of every major FPS game being hosted by Xenos, the thread would likely just get closed if they did, as it would be told it wasn't needed.

I don't really expect anything will be done, I just think this is funny and rather hypocritical from epvp's perspective considering my past with your other head mod relating to such issues with these types of lists.
08/12/2024 16:20 Drewfire#215
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Originally Posted by tamedbeast View Post
I dunno, the same reason that you don't allow for Mod/Admins to make lists like this, even if you put unofficial it still creates a problem (this was coming from the mouth of your own staff when I was a moderator, which is why I stepped down from being a moderator).
As you said, team members are not allowed to run such lists, as this could give the impression that it is an official list by elitepvpers.

Of course, it is always a bit tricky when a developer of a product decides on the listing of the competitors, but they can always contact the team if they believe they have been unfairly disadvantaged.

In addition, someone competent from outside the team must always offer to manage the list. Not just any random user can do this if they have no experience in the scene themselves. This could lead to products being listed that are a complete scam.
08/12/2024 16:33 tamedbeast#216
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Originally Posted by Drewfire View Post
As you said, team members are not allowed to run such lists, as this could give the impression that it is an official list by elitepvpers.

Of course, it is always a bit tricky when a developer of a product decides on the listing of the competitors, but they can always contact the team if they believe they have been unfairly disadvantaged.

In addition, someone competent from outside the team must always offer to manage the list. Not just any random user can do this if they have no experience in the scene themselves. This could lead to products being listed that are a complete scam.

That's my exact point. This list gives an impression of a bias when it is run by someone who has invested interests in cheat-making, it don't matter if you toss unofficial on the title of it. It's like Apple making a website for the top 5 best phones, putting themselves on the top and deciding who's the top phones then just slapping unofficial on the title.

All I can say, is that I'm happy you're not a judge in my trials :lul:

I do however appreciate the lists, I just don't think they should be managed by any cheat developers with invested interests regardless of reputation.
08/12/2024 23:27 Xenos#217
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Originally Posted by tamedbeast View Post
I do however appreciate the lists, I just don't think they should be managed by any cheat developers with invested interests regardless of reputation.
A friend which isnt involved into any cheat project but he is a great shill. And he doesnt earn any money from selling cheats so a provider showing up with a 200$ donation for cute words is a lot of money for that person.

You get the idea. Even if you arent invested into a project you could shill for a provider or many.

Thats why I added this to every list:

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Originally Posted by Xenos View Post
You are a different opinion or want to share your experience with a provider? Contribute to the list by posting on this thread including a tag of me @[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]. Especially looking for scam providers!
"Provider X is a cool", they should be listed. "Provider X is a scam" (not a provider advertising on epvp).

If I dont add someone it can be asked why you dont add provider X. If a provider is removed I can argue with feedback X besides my knowledge and tests.
08/12/2024 23:53 tamedbeast#218
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Originally Posted by Drewfire View Post
As you said, team members are not allowed to run such lists, as this could give the impression that it is an official list by elitepvpers.

Of course, it is always a bit tricky when a developer of a product decides on the listing of the competitors, but they can always contact the team if they believe they have been unfairly disadvantaged.

In addition, someone competent from outside the team must always offer to manage the list. Not just any random user can do this if they have no experience in the scene themselves. This could lead to products being listed that are a complete scam.
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Originally Posted by Xenos View Post
A friend which isnt involved into any cheat project but he is a great shill. And he doesnt earn any money from selling cheats so a provider showing up with a 200$ donation for cute words is a lot of money for that person.

You get the idea. Even if you arent invested into a project you could shill for a provider or many.

Thats why I added this to every list:



"Provider X is a cool", they should be listed. "Provider X is a scam" (not a provider advertising on epvp).

If I dont add someone it can be asked why you dont add provider X. If a provider is removed I can argue with feedback X besides my knowledge and tests.

TBH, I CBA to plead the case further, I think I'm done doing that. Overall it doesn't affect my daily life. It's good the lists are around, just not in agreement on who is managing them.
08/13/2024 17:15 beatboxdj#219
I encountered technical issues with shadowsplay.net and it did not work for me. I attempted to use it on community servers but it failed. After submitting a ticket and providing log information, I was informed that it only functions on official servers and my ticket was promptly closed. I had used the product for DayZ [Bounty]. [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]
I wrote a review for this product, highlighting that it cannot be used on community servers and rated it one star. However, my review was altered, both in text and star rating, without my consent. Moreover, no refund was offered. I strongly advise against purchasing from shadowsplay.net, especially for DayZ. Although the War Thunder cheat is good, the overall service deserves a rating of 2/10.

On the other hand, I have been using LethalCheats and so far, I have no complaints; there have been no technical issues or server compatibility problems. The visible enemy detection feature does not perform well, but it isn't strictly necessary. I have also frequently used the Kernaim DayZ cheat, but it is regularly detected.
08/13/2024 18:33 tamedbeast#220
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Originally Posted by beatboxdj View Post
I encountered technical issues with shadowsplay.net and it did not work for me. I attempted to use it on community servers but it failed. After submitting a ticket and providing log information, I was informed that it only functions on official servers and my ticket was promptly closed. I had used the product for DayZ [Bounty]. [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]
I wrote a review for this product, highlighting that it cannot be used on community servers and rated it one star. However, my review was altered, both in text and star rating, without my consent. Moreover, no refund was offered. I strongly advise against purchasing from shadowsplay.net, especially for DayZ. Although the War Thunder cheat is good, the overall service deserves a rating of 2/10.

On the other hand, I have been using LethalCheats and so far, I have no complaints; there have been no technical issues or server compatibility problems. The visible enemy detection feature does not perform well, but it isn't strictly necessary. I have also frequently used the Kernaim DayZ cheat, but it is regularly detected.
Yikes, and they don't even say on their website that community servers are not supported, and they have the guts to charge $30 per month for that, that's actually an insult in itself. Crazy that they altered your reviews, but also not surprising at the same time. Looks like they're resellers anyway, so I wouldn't even bother being concerned if their reputation exists, most resellers are kind of scummy in the customer service field because they have no real attachment to the product itself other than to make money from it. Not to say all resellers are like this, but a good majority of these guys come and go all the time.


Lethal is great, but they do very little anymore other than keeping it updated for patches, most of the suggestions are ignored for Dayz, and they put most of their development time into R6 and gay pornography in their NSFW section.
08/18/2024 12:36 alexpsp00#221
chudvision should be on the list
08/18/2024 12:41 1337Death's Dance#222
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Originally Posted by alexpsp00 View Post
chudvision should be on the list
amen to that
08/26/2024 21:40 Chiwawa67#223
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Ud since mores than 1 Year. Ready to give you test key, or to one of your friends tester.
Keep me informed. My dm open.
09/04/2024 12:31 fortnitegod_#224
Anyone tried Stern? Is it actually ud?
09/04/2024 23:03 Player1Ready#225
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Originally Posted by fortnitegod_ View Post
Anyone tried Stern? Is it actually ud?
There are a lot of threads about Stern and their reputation. You should be able to find it by simply searching Stern on EPVP.