[UNOFFICIAL] List Of Legit and Scam Providers List

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Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load snip

Instead of throwing shade at this list which has more effort put into it then ever before why don't you try to rebuild your brand and reputation.

All the complaints have been with the cheat itself, support and downtimes.
Maybe outsource/partner out the actual cheat development and get some new management in place, this way you can focus your full time on the actual platform itself to avoid downtimes.

I might also suggest to stop using AI in these responses.

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Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load I'm sorry to hear that you feel this way, as it was never my intention to drag anyone into this discussion other than the maintainer of this list. I'm glad to see that your ranking reflects your current performance and its great that your operating well (i did not expect anything else). My concern is that my ranking seems to still be based on my performance from July and September, despite significant improvements since then. Like you, we added features gradually while maintaining core functionality, and we now update within 2 hours or fully automatically. The only reason I pointed out issues with other providers was to highlight that similar challenges were handled similarly across the board, yet my ranking doesnt reflect our current state. I hope this clarifies my intention and avoids future misunderstanding.

whole lotta bs,I called you on your bs on epvp - lort joined ur dc to check for himself, while doing so he got messages of other ppl that EC is "unacceptable trash", then u banned him - u made ur bed now u gotta sleep in it, its not the customer's fault - you are the developer you are to blame get that in your head

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Originally Posted by astroware whole lotta bs,I called you on your bs on epvp - lort joined ur dc to check for himself, while doing so he got messages of other ppl that EC is "unacceptable trash", then u banned him - u made ur bed now u gotta sleep in it, its not the customer's fault - you are the developer you are to blame get that in your head

I have yet to see any actual proof to support this claim. According to him, everything he has gathered has already been posted in this thread. However, the information he shared can easily be discredited simply by reviewing the evidence I have provided.

The facts speak for themselves. Im always open to constructive and evidence-based discussions, but baseless accusations dont add value to this.

Have a wonderful day Astro. :*

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Originally Posted by alexpsp00 Instead of throwing shade at this list which has more effort put into it then ever before why don't you try to rebuild your brand and reputation. All the complaints have been with the cheat itself, support and downtimes. Maybe outsource/partner out the actual cheat development and get some new management in place, this way you can focus your full time on the actual platform itself to avoid downtimes. I might also suggest to stop using AI in these responses.

The list is straight up full of people who were banned for not following with the yearly plan or other problems. There is a reason this product has many active users who pay the price monthly. Instead of telling other developers who know INFINITELY more about anti-cheats and development how to manage their cheat, you should work on your own brand, not the other way around like you suggested. Maybe like you suggested, you need a partner who can help you with the actual bypass, you could hire the gif guy to help you so you arent down all year around.

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Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load I have yet to see any actual proof to support this claim. According to him, everything he has gathered has already been posted in this thread. However, the information he shared can easily be discredited simply by reviewing the evidence I have provided. The facts speak for themselves. Im always open to constructive and evidence-based discussions, but baseless accusations dont add value to this. Have a wonderful day Astro. :*

Okay so we have established that your product sucks. Now you sit here and are listing some kind of random BS - "Fairness and Refunds" - lets get into that.



You forced an ex-customer of yours to sign an NDA to give him a partial refund... the very same NDA that prohibits him from "speaking bad" about evilcheats (even if its the truth.....) and or you. Idk any other cheat on the market has to go to such extreme measures to make people stfu.

The way I see it, you give people refunds, not because of you are an amazing human being, but rather as you stated in your discord multiple times, that your stripe/payment processor is going to "ban" you for chargebacks.

Also, Mr Fairness of Refunds, why don't you refund people who bought through crypto? Oh yea... they can't chargeback...

Fact is, EC is the only cheat that I have ever heard of that's forcing people to sign NDA's to give them their money back. :confused:

- I wish you a wonderful day as well my german gambling addict :pimp:

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Originally Posted by astroware Okay so we have established that your product sucks. Now you sit here and are listing some kind of random BS - "Fairness and Refunds" - lets get into that. You forced an ex-customer of yours to sign an NDA to give him a partial refund... the very same NDA that prohibits him from "speaking bad" about evilcheats (even if its the truth.....) and or you. Idk any other cheat on the market has to go to such extreme measures to make people stfu. The way I see it, you give people refunds, not because of you are an amazing human being, but rather as you stated in your discord multiple times, that your stripe/payment processor is going to "ban" you for chargebacks. Also, Mr Fairness of Refunds, why don't you refund people who bought through crypto? Oh yea... they can't chargeback... Fact is, EC is the only cheat that I have ever heard of that's forcing people to sign NDA's to give them their money back. :confused: - I wish you a wonderful day as well my german gambling addict :pimp:

I think saying a product is a straight up scam everywhere because of your experience is not really the same as 'speaking bad even if its the truth.' and it is very much damaging a persons reputation with DISinformation. but you with your 26k messages in the ec discord, lying about your age and at times being despised by the group you played with from EC, can keep taking things out of context as always and say 'Im just joking' to get out of any real confrontation.

Let’s be honest, there’s not much to criticize about the cheat itself because it’s one of the most undetected and best performing cheats out there. Sure, it might be missing a few features, but those are literally being added as we speak. Your issue seems to be with the developer, but we’re here to buy and use the product, not to build a friendship.

You messed up and got kicked out, and now you’re upset, trying to make EC look bad, but deep down, you know the truth. :)

Is no one going to talk about the fact that he decided to start working on another cheat bypass for EFT while his current cheat was barely functional—and then went on holiday not long after?

On top of that, a few months ago, he tried to appease users with a giveaway instead of proper compensation, which was already a ridiculous move. It came off as extremely money-hungry, which, fair enough, is a business choice. But as far as I know, that giveaway still hasn’t happened, months after he promised it.

He also seems completely unbothered about offering minimal features for months, justifying it by saying he doesn’t “promote” the features. But come on—anyone looking at a cheat evaluates it based on two things: the features and the bypass/uptime. Sure, recent buyers probably should’ve known better, but what about the loyal members who’ve stuck around? They’re understandably frustrated because of the constant lies—claiming things will improve, promising this or that—and never following through.

The compensation system is an absolute joke, too. It’s clear he has no respect for the community and only cares about himself.

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Originally Posted by Anon91912 Is no one going to talk about the fact that he decided to start working on another cheat bypass for EFT while his current cheat was barely functional—and then went on holiday not long after? On top of that, a few months ago, he tried to appease users with a giveaway instead of proper compensation, which was already a ridiculous move. It came off as extremely money-hungry, which, fair enough, is a business choice. But as far as I know, that giveaway still hasn’t happened, months after he promised it. He also seems completely unbothered about offering minimal features for months, justifying it by saying he doesn’t “promote” the features. But come on—anyone looking at a cheat evaluates it based on two things: the features and the bypass/uptime. Sure, recent buyers probably should’ve known better, but what about the loyal members who’ve stuck around? They’re understandably frustrated because of the constant lies—claiming things will improve, promising this or that—and never following through. The compensation system is an absolute joke, too. It’s clear he has no respect for the community and only cares about himself.

man's gotta pay for his debt somehow

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Originally Posted by Anon91912 Is no one going to talk about the fact that he decided to start working on another cheat bypass for EFT while his current cheat was barely functional—and then went on holiday not long after? On top of that, a few months ago, he tried to appease users with a giveaway instead of proper compensation, which was already a ridiculous move. It came off as extremely money-hungry, which, fair enough, is a business choice. But as far as I know, that giveaway still hasn’t happened, months after he promised it. He also seems completely unbothered about offering minimal features for months, justifying it by saying he doesn’t “promote” the features. But come on—anyone looking at a cheat evaluates it based on two things: the features and the bypass/uptime. Sure, recent buyers probably should’ve known better, but what about the loyal members who’ve stuck around? They’re understandably frustrated because of the constant lies—claiming things will improve, promising this or that—and never following through. The compensation system is an absolute joke, too. It’s clear he has no respect for the community and only cares about himself.

Please get your facts straight, as your story doesn’t align with reality. It was clearly communicated in both this thread and our Discord that the cheat stopped working while I was on holiday. This is now being used as an argument against me, but the fact remains that the cheat was functioning perfectly fine until the hashing/encryption of IL2CPP metadata caused isssues.

As for the giveaway and compensation, giving users the option to either participate in a giveaway or receive compensation doesnt contradict any promises. It simply offers users a choice, empowering them to decide what they prefer. There is nothing "money-hungry" about providing options. It is a way to engage the community fairly.

Regarding features, we have focused on core functionality while building a new SDK to support future updates. This has been communicated within the community. Customers have been informed about our priorities and the reasons behind them.

Lastly, the compensation system is undergoing a complete overhaul to make it simpler and more efficient moving forward. This, also has been adressed openly within our community.

Constructive feedback is always welcome, but baseless accusations and misrepresentations only harm the discussion. :)

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Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load Lifetime users? We’ve never offered lifetime subscriptions to the public. Admittedly, we got a bit lax with updating the cheat's status in 2022 after the first few banwaves. However, we refunded anyone who requested it and made the ban statistics available on the website, displayed directly beneath the status, as well as in the Discord, where they were updated every 30 minutes by a bot. After detection issues in 2022, things started going downhill, so we shut down the public offering either late 2022 or early 2023, transitioning exclusively to a private provider. If money was my primary motivation, I’d still be selling a public cheat today. Instead, I prioritized creating a safer experience for users, even at the cost of significantly reduced revenue for myself.

What is the point of arguing with someone who dances around the truth like a fucking ballerina? You had dozens of lifetime users who did not get to continue using your “new” cheat with their existing subscription. How those lifetime users came to be is irrelevant, but I can tell you right now, they didn’t get it for free - That is fact, and if you want to claim otherwise, I’m sure a lot of them are willing to come forward to write about it. There is a reason most providers don’t sell lifetime (whether it be privately, or publicly), and that’s because if someone buys it and you decide to make a new project, which you did, and deprive them of what they paid for, they will call you an exit scammer, which you are a textbook example of. If what I’m saying is untrue, why wouldn’t you have just said “There were no lifetime users who didn’t maintain their lifetime subscriptions when EvilCheats changed bypasses” as a response to my first message? It’s because it would be the most blatant lie in this conversation so far.

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Originally Posted by jon5820 What is the point of arguing with someone who dances around the truth like a fucking ballerina? You had dozens of lifetime users who did not get to continue using your “new” cheat with their existing subscription. How those lifetime users came to be is irrelevant, but I can tell you right now, they didn’t get it for free - That is fact, and if you want to claim otherwise, I’m sure a lot of them are willing to come forward to write about it. There is a reason most providers don’t sell lifetime (whether it be privately, or publicly), and that’s because if someone buys it and you decide to make a new project, which you did, and deprive them of what they paid for, they will call you an exit scammer, which you are a textbook example of. If what I’m saying is untrue, why wouldn’t you have just said “There were no lifetime users who didn’t maintain their lifetime subscriptions when EvilCheats changed bypasses” as a response to my first message? It’s because it would be the most blatant lie in this conversation so far.

You might actually be onto something here. Maybe, finally, someone will provide some clear evidence and proof. Im genuinely waiting for you to bring forward every single member who bought lifetime that I didnt move from the old private to the new one (i assume this is about private since the public is discontinued and I would have no chance to move them to anything). Feel free to have them DM me or post here directly. Just make sure they come with actual proof that they had lifetime access. I will be waiting. 😊

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Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load Please get your facts straight, as your story doesn’t align with reality. It was clearly communicated in both this thread and our Discord that the cheat stopped working while I was on holiday. This is now being used as an argument against me, but the fact remains that the cheat was functioning perfectly fine until the hashing/encryption of IL2CPP metadata caused isssues. As for the giveaway and compensation, giving users the option to either participate in a giveaway or receive compensation doesnt contradict any promises. It simply offers users a choice, empowering them to decide what they prefer. There is nothing "money-hungry" about providing options. It is a way to engage the community fairly. Regarding features, we have focused on core functionality while building a new SDK to support future updates. This has been communicated within the community. Customers have been informed about our priorities and the reasons behind them. Lastly, the compensation system is undergoing a complete overhaul to make it simpler and more efficient moving forward. This, also has been adressed openly within our community. Constructive feedback is always welcome, but baseless accusations and misrepresentations only harm the discussion. :)

Thats not completely true... when it first broke yeah i agree you was either already away or had it planned but you went on a holiday alone once even when the people had little to no features/ a single rust update broke the cheat and considerring that you still decide to go f0r a holiday i think it was to austria? i cant completely remember... Honestly i think you have done great over the years but these past few months imo is unacceptable. You are making people pay full price for a limited cheat. And people are stuck with a cheat for a year and they can not say anything without you offering a ban including a refund or they have to stick to a limited cheat. the only reason most people go silent is because safety wise you are by far the best product. But you never ever try satisfy your customers in anyway you have done little to no progress over the past few months. But yeah as i said you have people hostage in a contract which little people wanna break but its unfair as its a limited cheat.

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Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load You might actually be onto something here. Maybe, finally, someone will provide some clear evidence and proof. Im genuinely waiting for you to bring forward every single member who bought lifetime that I didnt move from the old private to the new one (i assume this is about private since the public is discontinued and I would have no chance to move them to anything). Feel free to have them DM me or post here directly. Just make sure they come with actual proof that they had lifetime access. I will be waiting. ��

You would love for me to have a list of every person you exit scammed 2 years ago, wouldn’t you? I could name 2, but unfortunately, like fools, they paid you again, and I’d hate for them to be banned out of anger. It’s crazy how you scammed nobody, and yet when you broke the news that you were beginning a new project and their lifetime subscriptions weren’t transferring over, you were instantly barraged in numerous discords for it. Truly a shame I didn’t document all of that.

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Originally Posted by jon5820 You would love for me to have a list of every person you exit scammed 2 years ago, wouldn’t you? I could name 2, but unfortunately, like fools, they paid you again, and I’d hate for them to be banned out of anger. It’s crazy how you scammed nobody, and yet when you broke the news that you were beginning a new project and their lifetime subscriptions weren’t transferring over, you were instantly barraged in numerous discords for it. Truly a shame I didn’t document all of that.

nah mane how dare you? Its all a big conspiracy clearly - all of us hate on ec and acus cus of the UDness it provides... :kappa: