[UNOFFICIAL] List Of Legit and Scam Providers List

11/17/2024 19:34 frostedthebeast#1801
I am currently using a different private and I am wondering if it is worth it to switch to evil. I have heard good things about evil but dont really know the dtc rate. But thr price is much more.
11/17/2024 20:15 lort1234#1802
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Originally Posted by RgBuddy View Post
Quick questions:
1) Are the detection labels still valid?
I want to know what's updated and UD, and I don't consider a detection every few months as UD.

2) Why is Tier-1 comprised of a private cheat and resellers?
How is that top-tier quality compared to something like WRC that's had the same people for a decade.
(A lot of the 'standard' features it doesn't have, are ones that could easily be detected at any point)
Yes detection "labels" are still valid, ofc it's impossible to keep it 100% up to date since detections can take time to validate.

You should take a look at detection dates, all known detection dates will be there, you will then be able to take a more educated choice of provider to use.

It doesn't matter if a cheat it private or not, if it's worth being in tier 1, it will be in tier 1. There is no "resellers" cheats in tier 1, Serotonin and Dopamine is only sold though resellers atm, these resellers are well known and trusted in the cheating community, but the product it self isn't sold as a reseller rebrand.

WR-C was in tier 1, it was decided that it wasn't at the same quality as the other providers in tier 1, just because it's a well known provider with a good bypass doesn't mean it's worth being tier 1.
WR-C is missing key features that the other providers in tier 1 have, and it also have issues with performance on low end systems and in general could need a big overhaul of features added and a menu update to be on pair with the other tier 1 providers.

Having features that "could" be detected isn't a "con" in it self, if a provider should compete with less features and higher system requirements, it should be almost perfect in basic features and menu navigation/usability. (WR-C is honestly lacking when it comes to this)
11/17/2024 20:18 RgBuddy#1803
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Originally Posted by lort1234 View Post
Yes detection "labels" are still valid, ofc it's impossible to keep it 100% up to date since detections can take time to validate.

You should take a look at detection dates, all known detection dates will be there, you will then be able to take a more educated choice of provider to use.

It doesn't matter if a cheat it private or not, if it's worth being in tier 1, it will be in tier 1. There is no "resellers" cheats in tier 1, Serotonin and Dopamine is only sold though resellers atm, these resellers are well known and trusted in the cheating community, but the product it self isn't sold as a reseller rebrand.

WR-C was in tier 1, it was decided that it wasn't at the same quality as the other providers in tier 1, just because it's a well known provider with a good bypass doesn't mean it's worth being tier 1.
WR-C is missing key features that the other providers in tier 1 have, and it also have issues with performance on low end systems and in general could need a big overhaul of features added and a menu update to be on pair with the other tier 1 providers.

Having features that "could" be detected isn't a "con" in it self, if a provider should compete with less features and higher system requirements, it should be almost perfect in basic features and menu navigation/usability. (WR-C is honestly lacking when it comes to this)
With EAC's updates and Rust's internal updates lately, a lot of features have come to question when it comes to security.

Some cheats also don't support Windows 10, when it's end of support date is just in 11 months. Which is concerning.

I'm struggling to find a cheat that I can be confident in when it comes to detection
11/17/2024 20:28 lort1234#1804
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Originally Posted by RgBuddy View Post
With EAC's updates and Rust's internal updates lately, a lot of features have come to question when it comes to security.

Some cheats also don't support Windows 10, when it's end of support date is just in 11 months. Which is concerning.

I'm struggling to find a cheat that I can be confident in when it comes to detection
EAC/Rust isn't known for detecting features them self, they are more known simply patching them instead.

Not including features that "could" have been detected at any point in time the last 5 years, makes no sense. If anything not including these features comes more down to not wanting to maintain them instead..

Some of the cheats that doesn't support windows 11 yet, are some one the ones that have been detected the least the last year or so more.

If you cannot find a provider that you trust from the list, that's your issue. I believe the list makes it very easy to make an educated choice when it comes to picking the right provider for the users need.
11/19/2024 15:45 lort1234#1805
Review of CheatStore Spoofer. (Key was sponsored)
This review is my own experience and opinion about the current state of CheatStore Spoofer.


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Review of Unnamed/Classify. (Key was sponsored)
This review is my own experience and opinion about the current state of Unnamed/Classify.

11/19/2024 20:30 astroware#1806
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Originally Posted by frostedthebeast View Post
I am currently using a different private and I am wondering if it is worth it to switch to evil. I have heard good things about evil but dont really know the dtc rate. But thr price is much more.
if you're looking to be scammed and have a barely functional cheat surely a good option, instead go with chudvision you'll be happy. The developer is adding features to this day and is not an ego retard, actually worth your money.
11/19/2024 20:37 lort1234#1807
SMBIOS have been added to the untrusted section, the reason is written there.
11/20/2024 23:05 Professor-#1808
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Hey, we have updated rust recently, appreciate it if you adjust the list:
Name : Vanuri not Vaniru
One and only detection was 2nd may 2023
Also AMD GPUs are supported now.
11/20/2024 23:35 lort1234#1809
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Originally Posted by Professor- View Post
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Hey, we have updated rust recently, appreciate it if you adjust the list:
Name : Vanuri not Vaniru
One and only detection was 2nd may 2023
Also AMD GPUs are supported now.
Sure I will update it, thanks for pointed out the wrong name :)
11/21/2024 17:15 Baron7777#1810
I’m really not sure where you’re getting all this info about EC, but you’re definitely receiving false info.
11/21/2024 17:17 Dr0vk#1811
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Originally Posted by Baron7777 View Post
I’m really not sure where you’re getting all this info about EC, but you’re definitely receiving false info.
At least the info i gave him is straight from their support staff in ticket.
11/21/2024 17:47 lort1234#1812
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Originally Posted by Baron7777 View Post
I’m really not sure where you’re getting all this info about EC, but you’re definitely receiving false info.
The information have been confirmed with Acus, it was another customer that was unsatisfied with the current state of EvilCheats.
11/22/2024 05:50 !nvictus-Load#1813
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Originally Posted by lort1234 View Post
The information have been confirmed with Acus, it was another customer that was unsatisfied with the current state of EvilCheats.
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The information have been confirmed with Acus
This wording implies that you confirmed something with me in reality, I had to approach you to correct the record.

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It was another customer that was unsatisfied with the current state of EvilCheats
The customer in question violated our rules by discussing the cheat with individuals outside of our private community, which is against our most important rule. Furthermore, they spread false information. As a result, their account was banned, and we issued a full refund covering the past two months. After being banned, the customer tried to return to our service, which we have denied.

Since they are no longer an active customer, the claim of "a lot of customer complaints" is simply inaccurate.


For context, our cheat stands out on your list for several reasons:
  • Its the only one that has never been detected.
  • It includes a spoofer.
  • Its priced affordably at €59.95 per month.

Despite these advantages, our cheat is listed as Tier 3, while others (facing similar feature-related challenges and being detected more frequently) remain in Tier 2 and Tier 1.

I have already provided evidence showing that the community is largely satisfied with the cheat, that all customers are fully informed about features and state of the cheat prior to purchase, and that refunds are offered to anyone who is dissatisfied.

This ranking, as it stands, lacks credibility and fairness.
11/22/2024 08:53 lort1234#1814
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Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load View Post
This wording implies that you confirmed something with me in reality, I had to approach you to correct the record.
I never said i reached out you to, i said i have confirmed the information i had gotten with you, which is true. This information was regarding to yet another customer being tired of the issues with features not being in the cheat, and weeks of waiting for compensation.

This is the information i had gotten about a complain from a customer:

"Just ESP and silent aim, brooo
I can't take it anymore
Now he says it'll take until July or something
What kind of crap is this
And for compensation, he’s been saying 'soon soon' for weeks"

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Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load View Post
The customer in question violated our rules by discussing the cheat with individuals outside of our private community, which is against our most important rule. Furthermore, they spread false information. As a result, their account was banned, and we issued a full refund covering the past two months. After being banned, the customer tried to return to our service, which we have denied.

Since they are no longer an active customer, the claim of "a lot of customer complaints" is simply inaccurate.
Just because his no longer an active customer, doesn't mean he wasn't a customer. The fact that you banned him from simply sharing his frustrations about EvilCheats, i believe prove something regarding you ways of behaving to customers, when in fact so many have left and complained in the near past.

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Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load View Post
For context, our cheat stands out on your list for several reasons:
  • Its the only one that has never been detected.
  • It includes a spoofer.
  • Its priced affordably at €59.95 per month.

I have already provided evidence showing that the community is largely satisfied with the cheat, that all customers are fully informed about features and state of the cheat prior to purchase, and that refunds are offered to anyone who is dissatisfied.

This ranking, as it stands, lacks credibility and fairness.
Just because you have a UD product with a good detection rate & history, doesn't mean it doesn't deserve to be in tier 3, there are multiple reasons for your product to be in tier 3, and i have explained these reasons plenty on times in privates before.

You can disagree all you won't with this, but in the end of the day before your product actually improve and your customers satisfactions improves i don't see any good enough reason to move you to another tier, you product EvilCheats, is literally the product on the market with most complains atm, also with most complains that i have to investigate since it's private, i have spent sooo many hours investigating you and your product to come to the conclusion i have come to.

If you want me to make any kind of evaluations of your product and customer satisfaction, you have to NOT kick/ban me from the discord when we disagree on something, otherwise it's really hard to reevaluate a private product & community.

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Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load View Post
Despite these advantages, our cheat is listed as Tier 3, while others (facing similar feature-related challenges and being detected more frequently) remain in Tier 2 and Tier 1.
All other cheats in both tier 1 & tier 2, have magnificent more features at their current state and not users complaining like they do with your product (EvilCheat).

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When all of this is said, i have explained and talked about this in privates with you, i have seen no reason to start a big drama on this thread as it benefits no one.

Btw you are banning your customers because of what you yourself is doing right now. :confused:
11/22/2024 10:44 !nvictus-Load#1815
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Originally Posted by lort1234 View Post
I never said i reached out you to, i said i have confirmed the information i had gotten with you, which is true. This information was regarding to yet another customer being tired of the issues with features not being in the cheat, and weeks of waiting for compensation.

This is the information i had gotten about a complain from a customer:

"Just ESP and silent aim, brooo
I can't take it anymore
Now he says it'll take until July or something
What kind of crap is this
And for compensation, he’s been saying 'soon soon' for weeks"
You stated that you confirmed information with me, but I should point out that the information you brought to me was incomplete and wrong. You are referencing a single customer complaint that included exaggerated frustrations about delays and compensation. Not to mention that I brought his name and reasoning up to you, after which you confirmed that this was the reasoning. While I don't deny that this individual expressed dissatisfaction, the broader context and resolution are being omitted here.
  • The customer violated clear rules by discussing private community matters externally and spreading false claims.
  • They were refunded fully for the past two months despite these violations.
  • After being banned, they attempted to rejoin, demonstrating that they were still interested in using our product despite their grievances.
While this individual was a customer, their behavior and the resolution hardly represent "a lot of customer complaints" or reflect our general customer satisfaction.

The quote you provided about "just ESP and silent aim" and "weeks of waiting" reflects frustrations we addressed transparently within our community. Customers are informed about features before purchase. Compensation topics are communicated clearly, and we have offered refunds to dissatisfied customers proving that we are customer-focused.

While I can confirm these steps for our product I cannot say the same about other providers. Based on community feedback, competitors seem less willing to resolve issues or provide refunds even within subscription periods.

Your translation of this message from German is also worth noting, as it was a copy from what Astro received. When compared to your statements to me, it shows inconsistencies in your "objective" view of the situation.

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Originally Posted by lort1234 View Post
Just because his no longer an active customer, doesn't mean he wasn't a customer. The fact that you banned him from simply sharing his frustrations about EvilCheats, i believe prove something regarding you ways of behaving to customers, when in fact so many have left and complained in the near past.
This is inaccurate. The customer was not banned for "sharing frustrations." They were banned for breaching a key rule of our private community by sharing private information externally and spreading falsehoods. This behavior warranted a ban to maintain the integrity of our community.

Yes, they were a customer, but their dissatisfaction and subsequent ban represent an isolated incident, not a widespread trend. Your claim that "many have left and complained" lacks substantiation, especially given the overall satisfaction and retention we see in our community.



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Originally Posted by lort1234 View Post
Just because you have a UD product with a good detection rate & history, doesn't mean it doesn't deserve to be in tier 3, there are multiple reasons for your product to be in tier 3, and i have explained these reasons plenty on times in privates before.
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Originally Posted by lort1234 View Post
You can disagree all you won't with this, but in the end of the day before your product actually improve and your customers satisfactions improves i don't see any good enough reason to move you to another tier
Heres where we differ:
  • Our undetected (UD) status, combined with a strong detection history, is a significant advantage over competitors in Tiers 1 and 2.
  • Our cheat includes a spoofer and remains affordable, which many competitors at higher tiers do not offer.
  • We’ve demonstrated our commitment to transparency, refunds, and resolving customer issues promptly.

Your evaluation criteria appear inconsistent when competitors with frequent detections and fewer resolutions are ranked higher.


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Originally Posted by lort1234 View Post
you product EvilCheats, is literally the product on the market with most complains atm, also with most complains that i have to investigate since it's private, i have spent sooo many hours investigating you and your product to come to the conclusion i have come to.

If you want me to make any kind of evaluations of your product and customer satisfaction, you have to NOT kick/ban me from the discord when we disagree on something, otherwise it's really hard to reevaluate a private product & community.
You state that EvilCheats has "the most complaints" and that you have spent "sooo many hours investigating" us. However, this generalization lacks verifiable evidence, especially compared to competitors with documented detection issues and dissatisfaction. It’s easy to cite volume without addressing the content of complaints or how they are resolved.

Additionally, you claim we have banned you for disagreements. This is a misrepresentation. Bans are only issued for rule violations or disruptive behavior, and we expect mutual respect in professional discussions. You were removed for subscription inactivity, as is standard for all users, not for disagreement. The fact that we granted you access to investigate our private community demonstrates transparency.

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Originally Posted by lort1234 View Post
All other cheats in both tier 1 & tier 2, have magnificent more features at their current state and not users complaining like they do with your product (EvilCheat).
While features are important:
  • Features are irrelevant if a product is frequently detected or lacks stability.
  • Our community remains loyal because of our detection history and stability, and we have proven this with positive feedback and customer retention.
Its also worth noting that any product will face complaints. Its part of being in this space. What matters is how issues are addressed, and we have demonstrated a consistent willingness to engage, resolve, and refund.


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Originally Posted by lort1234 View Post
When all of this is said, i have explained and talked about this in privates with you, i have seen no reason to start a big drama on this thread as it benefits no one.

Btw you are banning your customers because of what you yourself is doing right now. :confused:
Let me address this in two parts:

1. Private Conversations
In our private discussion, we talked about key points that are misrepresented here:
  • As I mentioned privately, For most of the users that are banned from our community, there is usually a deliberate attempt to exaggerate negative experiences or take things out of context out of frustration.
  • I highlighted how, prior to their ban, users like Astro irrefutably talked positively about the product as can be seen in his 26 thousand messages in our Discord, even noting its superior performance in limited states. This is often the case with other customers and their public negativity doesn't always align with their actual experience.
  • While opinions change over time, consistency and context matter, especially when complaints come immediately after bans for rule violations. These incidents reflect individual problems, not a widespread issue within our community.
You agreed that promoting opinions in an "organized" way to harm a product is not the right approach, yet you contradict yourself and use these isolated and misleading examples without adequately investigating their context or result.
2. Customer Bans and Drama
The claim that we are "banning customers because of what i am doing right now" is a outrageous distorted statement. Bans are enforced for clear violations of community rules, not for sharing frustrations constructively. We actively promote users sharing their actual frustrations regarding the product.

As we discussed privately, even you agreed that the actions of banned individuals (like organizing public stunts and spreading misinformation) are not the appropriate way to handle dissatisfaction. However, these bans are rare and come with full transparency, including refunds when warranted.

To imply that we handle such situations poorly ignores the broader satisfaction and loyalty of the majority of our community. Isolated incidents should not define a product's overall quality or the integrity of its providers.



You mentioned avoiding drama, which I agree with. However, your evaluation of EvilCheats still feels biased and inconsistent. I respect the effort you have put into investigating, but I urge you to apply your criteria consistently across all products.