Januera | 10 DG | Play2Win | Custom FW | Skill Balance | Grand Opening 08.05.2015

05/02/2015 18:51 pokethem#1681
They remove fence, do not add PQ for ch, Warrior unique skill. Rogue can't join too, only as clerik. CH int have the best chance now, cause high damage and they do not need any buff. so 1 warriir 2 wizz 2 nuker 2 bard 1 clerik the best team up now, but ch int sux in pvp so peoples will not gonna build it.
05/02/2015 18:52 Muhab*#1682
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Originally Posted by pokethem View Post
They remove fence, do not add PQ for ch, Warrior unique skill. Rogue can't join too, only as clerik. CH int have the best chance now, cause high damage and they do not need any buff. so 1 warriir 2 wizz 2 nuker 2 bard 1 clerik the best team up now, but ch int sux in pvp so peoples will not gonna build it.
YOU SEE? This is how it works!

The only fact people in silkroad scene has to understand is, every build has it's own ADVANTAGE & DISADVANGE.

Just to finalize everything regarding skill balance. FORGET ABOUT SUGGESTING, this is Januera Online, please welcome! You don't like it? That's alright!
05/02/2015 19:00 OutlawNL#1683
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Originally Posted by A_RandomUser View Post
Interesting, you're welcome to try against an EU pt with 2 warriors, 1 cleric, 1-2 bard(s), 1 warlock and 2-3 wizards. First thing they do is bless, screen up and wipe out the two warriors with absolutes and then target the force sub builds with warlock disables and absolutes (assuming your pt has used bless as well). What's your move?

Based on the changes you just listed, you'd be happy with basically all the characters being immune to debuffing? Debuffing is not part of Silkroad? Who would even make a build that doesn't have immunity? Even 35% holy with 208 effect blocks every debuff that is applied via weapon skills. Axe resistance passive does the same thing. Even charity blocks a lot. Fire shield & force holy combined also block everything.
First of all, take into count the nerfs done on this server. You're saying as if everyone will get screens. Only 2 targets can get ultimate screens.
The CHN party will easily kill the bards, which makes them irrelevant.
Then the focus can turn onto the warlock easily, stunning/knocking it. Why the warlock won't even be able to debuff like that, and inb4 you're like 'cant cuz pt already dead' no the CHN pt wont die during bless and PQ's on ints with snowshield they won't even take damage.
And also don't forget the chn party has 8 attackers comparing to the eu with just 3~ (considering the bards are irrelevant anyway)
5 if u count the warriors.

Edit: Gluts won't able to be used due to insane amount of KB's/KD's trust me lol.

The wizards wont even be able to attack against 6 chn(well maybe 1 wizz will) due to the amounts of KB/KD's or CHN chars.


And no, I don't want to make debuffs impossible. For now, on eu chars it's just impossible to debuff them, maybe that needs a slight nerf. But the CHN holy spell is like 70% of the strength or lower as the EU one as far as I know.

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Originally Posted by Muhab Ashraf View Post
That idea makes sense, actually quite alot, but then big wars like fortress war, job war, BA-Job would be ruined since EVERY single player would be running around with PQ's fighting for hours to kill the opponent group. Also, adding holy spell to CH as well wouldn't be a smart idea cuz then what does force/warlock stand for?

Our way, you will have to stay as cleric all the time to save your party/guild cuz battle's won't last too long, stay close to battle area with your bard/warrior char since surrounding area is lowered (Teamwork/preventing outsidebuffing/multiaccount-botting), overall defences/buffs are lowered so the custom fortress makes sense as construction HP's are highered etc.

This is how we ended up balancing EU/CH, it's all about considering every single situation in short & long term.

How about giving a try first? And yeah, you won't have som+7 100% stats items in Official Server also consider this while testing our skill balance in beta server.

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It's working.
That's incorrect, wars where most players are buffed aren't that super long as you think. Keep in mind FW is a war with 200~300 players.
Focusing is key, and teamplay WILL win you the war.

Edit: Yeah the fight is gonna last 5-10 mins more but isn't that fun in the end?
05/02/2015 19:05 pokethem#1684
Just don't know why can't understand how decent ch int on this server, i try to help from the start for you, and you accept about 85-90% from my suggestions, cause you see it later those changes were necessery.

I will go online about 6 h later, and as i said i will beat evry ch int caracter with ch str, i wanna make sure you will check this. I hope after this you will change your mind.
05/02/2015 19:09 OutlawNL#1685
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Originally Posted by pokethem View Post
Just don't know why can't understand how decent ch int on this server, i try to help from the start for you, and you accept about 85-90% from my suggestions, cause you see it later those changes were necessery.

I will go online about 6 h later, and as i said i will beat evry ch int caracter with ch str, i wanna make sure you will check this. I hope after this you will change your mind.
STOP TALKING FROM 1V1 PERSPECTIVE, STR CHARS ARE MADE FOR THE 1V1 INT CHARS ARE MADE FOR BIG AOE DAMAGE IN WARS FFS WHEN WILL U UNDERSTAND
05/02/2015 19:18 pokethem#1686
And. as i see you can't understand, more nuker in pvp, str caracters will use more prot and garm, so they will wear it on your big aoe events too. This can give them more use there too, and after that they can kill each other more easier cause the higher damage vs each other....
This is gonne change the whole protector gear.
I want a really good balance, even if it takes a little more time for you. Sorry about that, but you guys have my trust, and i really happy causr you guys late the server with 1 week. Right now i enjoy this more then the real game :D
05/02/2015 19:20 emrehap#1687
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Originally Posted by pokethem View Post
And. as i see you can't understand, more nuker in pvp, str caracters will use more prot and garm, so they will wear it on your big aoe events too. This can give them more use there too, and after that they can kill each other more easier cause the higher damage vs each other....
This is gonne change the whole protector gear.
what ?
05/02/2015 19:22 WannaSun#1688
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Originally Posted by pokethem View Post
And. as i see you can't understand, more nuker in pvp, str caracters will use more prot and garm, so they will wear it on your big aoe events too. This can give them more use there too, and after that they can kill each other more easier cause the higher damage vs each other....
This is gonne change the whole protector gear.
dafuq ?

If u arenīt wearing Garment as CHN better delete your char.
05/02/2015 19:28 hihi.#1689
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Originally Posted by WannaSun View Post
dafuq ?

If u arenīt wearing Garment as CHN better delete your char.
If you think garment is the way to go on a eu/ch server you're a fucking idiot.
05/02/2015 19:32 pokethem#1690
Why should i wear garm? Only str caracters in pvp, if you don't wanna get beat evry single time in PVP vs some noob rogue or warrior with 1 or 2 crt you should wear armor, cause prot was not even enoght for.
05/02/2015 19:33 .Xen#1691
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Originally Posted by OutlawNL View Post
STOP TALKING FROM 1V1 PERSPECTIVE, STR CHARS ARE MADE FOR THE 1V1 INT CHARS ARE MADE FOR BIG AOE DAMAGE IN WARS FFS WHEN WILL U UNDERSTAND
med?
05/02/2015 19:34 pokethem#1692
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Originally Posted by hihi. View Post
If you think garment is the way to go on a eu/ch server you're a fucking idiot.
You are my guy welcome in the team :D
05/02/2015 19:36 Muhab*#1693
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05/02/2015 19:36 WannaSun#1694
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Originally Posted by hihi. View Post
If you think garment is the way to go on a eu/ch server you're a fucking idiot.
you both never did pvp I guess. Also I donīt give a fuck about what you both wear.

So you donīt need to reply to this.
05/02/2015 19:38 .Xen#1695
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Originally Posted by WannaSun View Post
you both never did pvp I guess.
menz germent suck, oqe? stop telking shiet.