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08/29/2012 13:13 godhigh#1681
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Originally Posted by SkySurf View Post
because 250 ip is nothing campered to 10k rp :(
what i mean been 5 days i can't redeem my rewards :(
They just changed the tribunal a bit today ... so they fixing something
I don't see any changes in tribunal. They changed the design long time ago if you mean that. Otherwise I'm kinda blind :P

You're right. If you compare 250 IP to 10k RP it's nothing. But you get at least something. The question is if it's too risky to make refs in general (also level 5).
08/29/2012 13:19 SkySurf#1682
yes it is but as soon as you get rewards use them so if they detect you you don't loose everything maybe they take 1 or 2 champs and 500 ip
08/29/2012 14:24 nhcoohrh#1683
Yeah the thing is you get the awards instant, yes you can still get banned because you are abusing the system. however you get the profit faster.
RP you buy in store, IP not, you must play to get it.

So I think IP somehow more usefull than RP (since i dont care about skins at all).

And if I find a way to reset the ban after then maybe I abuse a second time, but this will only on a smurf account. They can permanban if they don't like it so much.
08/29/2012 18:07 godhigh#1684
I guess I'll wait for some time now to continue. Just hit my five level 10 accounts and clicked on "redeem" rewards. Don't really know when I recieve the IP and rune page since it wasn't transfered to my account instantly. Some users wrote it's delayed up to 48 hours if I'm not wrong.

I agree with you nhcoohrh, that making level 5 accounts makes maybe more sense since its faster. You can do four level 5 accounts in the same time you do one level 10. That gives you 1000 IP. If you set up three VMs you can do atleast 3000 IP per day.
08/29/2012 18:18 SkySurf#1685
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Originally Posted by godhigh View Post
I guess I'll wait for some time now to continue. Just hit my five level 10 accounts and clicked on "redeem" rewards. Don't really know when I recieve the IP and rune page since it wasn't transfered to my account instantly. Some users wrote it's delayed up to 48 hours if I'm not wrong.

I agree with you nhcoohrh, that making level 5 accounts makes maybe more sense since its faster. You can do four level 5 accounts in the same time you do one level 10. That gives you 1000 IP. If you set up three VMs you can do atleast 3000 IP per day.
That's right but you will be banned in the next 15 days HueHueHue
08/29/2012 18:22 godhigh#1686
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Originally Posted by SkySurf View Post
That's right but you will be banned in the next 15 days HueHueHue
Hopefully not :P
08/29/2012 22:22 runehasa#1687
Well I have a question which I am sure has been asked before but I have read through many pages of this forum and havent gotten a solid answer. What is the likely hood that someone would be able to get to 100refs without getting banned or are there people even able to do it anymore. It seems through reading like most are getting caught really early on. Anyhow below is my method and just wanted some input if its bad or good. My goal is the 10k rp at level 100 + skins/etc and stopping

1. Using free version
2. Creating 5 accounts per day and leveling to level 10
3. All accounts created with unique information and seemingly real names
4. All accounts created on a corporate network not tied to one IP address.
08/29/2012 23:02 nhcoohrh#1688
People believe in miracles. And many times from my experience of 3 months doing refs and after 3 ban waves. It's question of luck, there is no 100% method not getting banned like many people dream.

And the reason why? When they ban somebody they don't say we "detected" they say we "suspect".

And this is all, they could do many patterns to find. Yes you can make their life harder , however I already see cases of people with few refs banned .

Plus the riot system is broken always down, prizes cant be redeem. a complete mess.
08/29/2012 23:31 runehasa#1689
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Originally Posted by nhcoohrh View Post
People believe in miracles. And many times from my experience of 3 months doing refs and after 3 ban waves. It's question of luck, there is no 100% method not getting banned like many people dream.

And the reason why? When they ban somebody they don't say we "detected" they say we "suspect".

And this is all, they could do many patterns to find. Yes you can make their life harder , however I already see cases of people with few refs banned .

Plus the riot system is broken always down, prizes cant be redeem. a complete mess.
Well I don't believe in miracles I try to bank more on statistics and facts. With that being said I am just curious if it is worth my time to even try for it. Mainly I want to know is it more a matter of being unlucky and not making it or do you have to be one of the lucky ones to make it.

I used to be a avid botter in the World of Warcraft community and only recently found out about the League community for it. I can appreciate the need to be discrete and careful when using such tools and also the potential danger that is always involved. I suppose Im just hoping someone with more knowledge on the bans will tell me either

a. Go for it youll likely get 100 or
b. You can try but will most likely not get 100

Also the other thing I was thinking was maybe not stopping at 10 just letting it run through the day and whatever random level it gets to past 10 let it stay there. That way there isnt 100 level 10 accounts as that does looks suspicious
08/30/2012 00:31 nhcoohrh#1690
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Originally Posted by runehasa View Post
Well I don't believe in miracles I try to bank more on statistics and facts. With that being said I am just curious if it is worth my time to even try for it. Mainly I want to know is it more a matter of being unlucky and not making it or do you have to be one of the lucky ones to make it.

I used to be a avid botter in the World of Warcraft community and only recently found out about the League community for it. I can appreciate the need to be discrete and careful when using such tools and also the potential danger that is always involved. I suppose Im just hoping someone with more knowledge on the bans will tell me either

a. Go for it youll likely get 100 or
b. You can try but will most likely not get 100

Also the other thing I was thinking was maybe not stopping at 10 just letting it run through the day and whatever random level it gets to past 10 let it stay there. That way there isnt 100 level 10 accounts as that does looks suspicious
Riot its not like Blizz, blizz makes tools to detect and active ban people so the game economy could be stable.

On LoL there is no ingame gold, however ref system started to become exploit 5-6 months ago and on last 3 months they decided to make actions.

They didn't waste time making any kind of "wardens" they just do bans based on data analyses, so thats why you could get ban after 1 ban.

Now what they use for their patterns, I usually say i'm not riot employ.

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Read this nice post after the 1st ban wave and see that such thing like X refs and you are safe doesn't exist. That is the dream of many people like I say.

I could say 1/5 of my clients get banned last time, and this is already usefull information. And I take many different methods to make harder to detect, still bans happen.

Nothing to do when the decision is based on data analysis on the server side.
08/30/2012 09:09 SkySurf#1691
Well it's good for some people and bad for others atm.
But when riot creat a bot who automaticly detect referall abuser (this gonna be a hell)

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Originally Posted by runehasa View Post
a. Go for it youll likely get 100 or
b. You can try but will most likely not get 100

Also the other thing I was thinking was maybe not stopping at 10 just letting it run through the day and whatever random level it gets to past 10 let it stay there. That way there isnt 100 level 10 accounts as that does looks suspicious
well i say you have 10% chance to get 100 ref level 10 and escape the ban.
Dude wel always rdy for consequence and we know the risk right now.
Some times riot revokfor you account content prizes weren't even bought with the IP/RP from the raf Just be carefull.
And as we know riot consider smurfing with your referal link as a fraud so don't spam tickets to riot support

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Originally Posted by SkySurf View Post
Greetings Summoner,

Refer-a-Friend reward redemption is currently disabled due to a Store issue. A fix for the issue is expected to be deployed in the first week of September, after which you will be able to properly redeem all of your earned rewards.

Please accept my apologies for any inconvenience this causes you. Don't hesitate to contact me with any other questions or concerns you may have.

Thank you for your patience.

voila a message from riot support ^^
08/30/2012 14:52 nhcoohrh#1692
like i suspect till end of month no RP prizes for nobody, as always we must be patient and we should be since it's free stuff.
08/30/2012 15:09 SkySurf#1693
so people wait till septembre ^^
08/30/2012 18:13 wtfpro#1694
bot in the game is based on and does not move...
this is bug ?
This start after patch...
08/31/2012 07:12 Ozzy1#1695
i have 1 question about referrals:If i do 100 refs and redeem 10k rp and after i get 50 refs can i still able to get 5k rp?