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Monolith is up and running again with 15 more features added to their current build.

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Originally Posted by lort1234 Monolith is up and running again with 15 more features added to their current build.

"Slow updates, can take days" - meanwhile, cheat was down for damn near an entire month

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Originally Posted by fangirl89 "Slow updates, can take days" - meanwhile, cheat was down for damn near an entire month

Usually can take days. No one can predict if a provider will be down for a long duration of time, the heads up is for informing about normal update times. :pimp:

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Originally Posted by lort1234 Usually can take days. No one can predict if a provider will be down for a long duration of time, the heads up is for informing about normal update times. :pimp:

It's been down for weeks far more than it's been down for days

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Originally Posted by fangirl89 It's been down for weeks far more than it's been down for days

Status was also changed to “down” a while back.

Again the note about it taking days to update is in general.

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Originally Posted by lort1234 Status was also changed to “down” a while back. Again the note about it taking days to update is in general.

Yes, and IN GENERAL, it's down for weeks after any update lol, it was down for a week prior to this previous force wipe, and only gets updated after 30 days, the update before that was weeks as well, and the next rust update is going to be the same exact thing

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Originally Posted by fangirl89 Yes, and IN GENERAL, it's down for weeks after any update lol, it was down for a week prior to this previous force wipe, and only gets updated after 30 days, the update before that was weeks as well, and the next rust update is going to be the same exact thing

Not true, have been using monolith my self for months before the encryption update took place, before that the update times could be days but not weeks.

After the encryption update many providers are still updating either the software it self or the backend of it.

If you take a look at other reputed providers you will see most of then don’t have all their features back yet, and monolith first experiences weeks of downtime after the encryption update.

No matter what. I did change the status when another user pointed it out to be down, and i have also placed notes about their usual update times taking long.

As for now it’s updated and working and they even compensated more than what was needed and also gave out free usage of their software when it was a esp only build, I think it’s a good enough customer treatment.

All providers can go down for weeks/months, whenever a big update messes with their cheat or backend, this is known in the cheating scene and is just how it can be, the people behind these products also have a real life to live, and cannot always be expected to update their products in a short amount of time whenever a big update hits.

If you cannot accept that you should not use cheats in general, and at least not use Monolith as it have one of the longest update times in general.

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Originally Posted by lort1234 Not true, have been using monolith my self for months before the encryption update took place, before that the update times could be days but not weeks. After the encryption update many providers are still updating either the software it self or the backend of it. If you take a look at other reputed providers you will see most of then don’t have all their features back yet, and monolith first experiences weeks of downtime after the encryption update. No matter what. I did change the status when another user pointed it out to be down, and i have also placed notes about their usual update times taking long. As for now it’s updated and working and they even compensated more than what was needed and also gave out free usage of their software when it was a esp only build, I think it’s a good enough customer treatment. All providers can go down for weeks/months, whenever a big update messes with their cheat or backend, this is known in the cheating scene and is just how it can be, the people behind these products also have a real life to live, and can cannot always be expected to update their products in a short amount of time whenever a big update hits. If you cannot accept that you should not use cheats in general, and at least not use Monolith as it have one of the longest update times in general.

When did I ever speak on features? I'm specifically talking about the current state of Monolith, not what it was. Your list should reflect that. While still abiding by your prerequisites for a T2 provider, the developer is very clearly not active, updates are painfully slow, going down for weeks and months at a time, and the cheat is in the same state all the other T1, T2, and even T3 providers were only weeks after those updates. You really think a provider should be T2 if it wasn't even up this entire wipe? You yourself say "Providers can go up & down on the list, as the situation on each provider can change anytime.", and yet you don't move them when they are by far the worst option on this list at the moment. Currently, saying that Monolith updates "can take days" is dishonest, while labeling them as a T2 provider is an insult to any provider in T3/T4 who actually gives a shit about their product.

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Originally Posted by fangirl89 When did I ever speak on features? I'm specifically talking about the current state of Monolith, not what it was. Your list should reflect that. While still abiding by your prerequisites for a T2 provider, the developer is very clearly not active, updates are painfully slow, going down for weeks and months at a time, and the cheat is in the same state all the other T1, T2, and even T3 providers were only weeks after those updates. You really think a provider should be T2 if it wasn't even up this entire wipe? You yourself say "Providers can go up & down on the list, as the situation on each provider can change anytime.", and yet you don't move them when they are by far the worst option on this list at the moment. Currently, saying that Monolith updates "can take days" is dishonest, while labeling them as a T2 provider is an insult to any provider in T3/T4 who actually gives a shit about their product.

The reason i mentioned the features is because the encryption update messed up all cheat, some are still making changes to their cheat and/or backend.

The current state of monolith is that it’s updated and undetected, and this list also stated when it was updating and detected, the current status is correct.

Reason it should be in tier 2:
- Only been detected once since release. (Around a year by now)
- User friendly injections and modern ingame menu.
- A lot of features compared to other externals with the same detected rate/history.
- Good customer compensation for downtime.

Reason it shouldn’t be tier 1:
- Long update times.
- Sometimes issues with the loader.
- Product haven’t been nearly as long as the other tier 1 providers on the market.

Reasons for it to be on tier 3:
- Detected fairly recently.
- Compared to other tier 3 products, it’s extremely much better at being undetected.
- No bad rumours about the provider/product or anything like that.

When you look at it how it is, I think tier 2 is the right place for monolith to be, you can disagree with me all you want, but they did compensate all their customers with more than enough, they did provide a esp only build while they where working on everything for free use as for all their customers, and they have not exit scammed and is still working on their product.

I will say it again, if you cannot accept downtime for cheat, you probably shouldn’t use cheats to begin with as that’s how it can sometimes be. USUALLY monolith updates within hours/days when a normal rust update happens.

If you read their announcement you would know that they have been working on their backend like so many other providers have, I can name a few that you might wanna consider adding to tier 3 according to you then. Dopamine, Serotonin, Fluent, Matrix, Disconnect, Chudvision.

All of these product have had/have limited features and had/have downtime for WEEKS when the encryption update hit, some had more some had less, but saying a product should be in tier 3 because of update times is out right wrong.

Read tier explanation, tier 4 is only for new providers.

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Originally Posted by lort1234 The reason i mentioned the features is because the encryption update messed up all cheat, some are still making changes to their cheat and/or backend. The current state of monolith is that it’s updated and undetected, and this list also stated when it was updating and detected, the current status is correct. Reason it should be in tier 2: - Only been detected once since release. (Around a year by now) - User friendly injections and modern ingame menu. - A lot of features compared to other externals with the same detected rate/history. - Good customer compensation for downtime. Reason it shouldn’t be tier 1: - Long update times. - Sometimes issues with the loader. - Product haven’t been nearly as long as the other tier 1 providers on the market. Reasons for it to be on tier 3: - Detected fairly recently. - Compared to other tier 3 products, it’s extremely much better at being undetected. - No bad rumours about the provider/product or anything like that. When you look at it how it is, I think tier 2 is the right place for monolith to be, you can disagree with me all you want, but they did compensate all their customers with more than enough, they did provide a esp only build while they where working on everything for free use as for all their customers, and they have not exit scammed and is still working on their product. I will say it again, if you cannot accept downtime for cheat, you probably shouldn’t use cheats to begin with as that’s how it can sometimes be. USUALLY monolith updates within hours/days when a normal rust update happens. If you read their announcement you would know that they have been working on their backend like so many other providers have, I can name a few that you might wanna consider adding to tier 3 according to you then. Dopamine, Serotonin, Fluent, Matrix, Disconnect, Chudvision. All of these product have had/have limited features and had/have downtime for WEEKS when the encryption update hit, some had more some had less, but saying a product should be in tier 3 because of update times is out right wrong. Read tier explanation, tier 4 is only for new providers.

What a grossly disproportionate comparison, talking about providers that have their products up within hours of the game updating, to the same degree as one that has had at best, 15% uptime for the past 3 months. I find it humorous you keep pivoting back to the point that they provided a free visual only build while working on their product as if that build had been up this entire time. The visual only build you speak of, before today, was also down for a month. Before that, it was weeks. You can categorize your list however you want, but if you're trying to provide current news, then your list has bias. "Slow updates, can take days", someone will read that and think that's not so bad when in reality they'll be waiting up to a month to finally get what they paid for.

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Originally Posted by fangirl89 What a grossly disproportionate comparison, talking about providers that have their products up within hours of the game updating, to the same degree as one that has had at best, 15% uptime for the past 3 months. I find it humorous you keep pivoting back to the point that they provided a free visual only build while working on their product as if that build had been up this entire time. The visual only build you speak of, before today, was also down for a month. Before that, it was weeks. You can categorize your list however you want, but if you're trying to provide current news, then your list has bias. "Slow updates, can take days", someone will read that and think that's not so bad when in reality they'll be waiting up to a month to finally get what they paid for.

Read what I wrote again, I’m not gonna explain all of this to you one more time, i also pointed out my reasons for having them on tier 2.

I’m not gonna discuss this anymore, Monolith will be on tier 2 until they prove not worth of being on it, but when compared to any other tier 3 product it’s far superior in all most all ways except update times.

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Originally Posted by lort1234 Read what I wrote again, I’m not gonna explain all of this to you one more time, i also pointed out my reasons for having them on tier 2. I’m not gonna discuss this anymore, Monolith will be on tier 2 until they prove not worth of being on it, but when compared to any other tier 3 product it’s far superior in all most all ways except update times.

Reasons for having them on tier 2: It was once a good cheat :D, another biased list zzzz, far superior in almost all ways except for the fact that you can't use it LOL

Best current DMA provider? I can’t decide between Clutch and Atomic… any other good ones?

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Originally Posted by cmg264 Best current DMA provider? I can’t decide between Clutch and Atomic… any other good ones?

Both got a lot of reputation, going with either one isn’t a bad choice. :pimp: