Januera | 10 DG | Play2Win | Custom FW | Skill Balance | Grand Opening 08.05.2015

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Originally Posted by Muhab Ashraf I understand you but please you also understand the fact: If you don't nerf EU, WHATEVER YOU DO with CH race, people will ALWAYS go for EU chars and the server race distribution will be like 80% vs 20%, even more for eu. But this way, less EU and more CH which is our main goal in Januera.

If your main purpose is to make CH more reliable & attractive race, i suggest to add some EU stuff, like PQ instead of those custom skills u added in the first place. Making CH good at pvp isnt enough to motivate ppl to play it as the main char, so might be the best move regardin the time left for the opening.

How exactly did u buff bard attacks?
Damage wise too?
Or just this:

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7- Booming Wave Atack skill | 40% Knock-Back Probability 8- Weird Chort Atack skill | 20% Impotent

btw that added 5 range in bard buffs made me so happy :p

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Originally Posted by Muhab Ashraf I understand you but please you also understand the fact: If you don't nerf EU, WHATEVER YOU DO with CH race, people will ALWAYS go for EU chars and the server race distribution will be like 80% vs 20%, even more for eu. But this way, less EU and more CH which is our main goal in Januera.

The problem is , people don't pick EU because it's stronger , they pick EU because it's needed to lvl up faster and get gold faster , no one ever makes a CH Party , it's just better to be alone as a chinese so you lvl up slowly and you don't get much gold from it .. while EU has it's own PT which is (1Cleric , 2Warriors , 2 Bards , 3 Wizards ) so ye you never see someone saying PT 7/8 need 1 more bower or force or anything that's Chinese .. If you balance the buffs between EU and CH so that parties search for CH players also trust me , the server will have 50% CH players .

Or else , disable parties in the server that would be fair for everyone or disable exp share in parties so that everyone will have to grind and play solo to lvl up

If they strong enought in pvp more people will play if for sure. peoples who play ch caracters wanna pvpp too iam pretty sure about it.

nerf more eu char plz, useless for players who alone w/o friends when they choise asian chars

when you will open server to play with new skill :)?

Instead of fucking up the entire european race you should've just improved the chinese party play.. Add more heals to force, add taunts to bich, nukers are already strong damage dealers..

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Originally Posted by A_RandomUser So, are you willing to bet that CHN pt beats an EU pt because of these changes?

Yes I'm willing to bet a 6 man CHN squad with 2 buffing warriors will destroy an EU Pt. and I mean completely DESTROY them.

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Originally Posted by pokethem Eu still have way better damage then ch, rogue still op with 3 hit combo, warrior can duble crt peoples, and these changes not make them usless. Warriors still the best for events like fw and job, they only have a harder time. Only the pvp the problem cause pvp gonna be full str ch and eu caracter war again, cause ch int not gonna be decent with this buff, so evrybody will go for armor and prot, and when the fw and job comeing wizzards gonna be really pretty op cause the sets. More int caracter in pvp means peoples will use prot and garm set, so str peoples have enoght damage kill each other way faster.

Once again, the only perspective you guys are using is the damn 1v1 pvp, wake up silkroad isn't meant to be a 1v1 game.
Go play 1v1 in LoL or something if you want some true 1v1 action.
This is a teamplay based game.

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Originally Posted by aliwood You are taking extreme situations as exemples, a Wizz can one shot an other wizz with PQ only if he is under LT, so the counter to dat is to hold ur rod & chheild buff urself & glut that SUPER OP wizz, i mean its true wizz wont be immortals now but u still have ur SRO experience, ur skills so adapt instead of flaming. Warriorz got a passive defence, so lowering clerics buff 100 mag def or 50 phy def isnt a big deal since they already have more def than CH. The only thing which affects the EU global balance is the absence of Fences, which, as i said before, can be solved with the PQ+Fence unstackable thing, as we all suggested & Muhab should put some real thoughts into it.

No warriors do get 1 shot by wizards or 2 shot, mostlikely 1 shot why ? PQ damage -> + own damage received they usually die. If not, they'll just get hit by another splash and are already dead.
That's without life btw.

Fences aren't the issue regarding wizards not having fences, it's more of an issue that others in the party can't have it eg; bards,clerics.

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Originally Posted by Shifty* Instead of fucking up the entire european race you should've just improved the chinese party play.. Add more heals to force, add taunts to bich, nukers are already strong damage dealers..

I agree with this, and give that weird PQ skill to CHN.
Leave EU uneditted (besides the black ress maybe that shit is bullshit) and focus on helping CHN, give them the holy spell thing from sro-r, give them healing orbit/mana orbit like on sro-r.
Give them the PQ & give them some taunts (preferably on bicheon ) and give bow skills aggro increase.
Also the phy/mag def buff from sro-r. And just buff the CHN race with 15% more damage and 5% more def. That should've sealed the deal.

Rather than gutting 1 race, to make the other race better.

So anyone knows when we can test the game again ? im bored lel

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Originally Posted by OutlawNL I agree with this, and give that weird PQ skill to CHN. Leave EU uneditted (besides the black ress maybe that shit is bullshit) and focus on helping CHN, give them the holy spell thing from sro-r, give them healing orbit/mana orbit like on sro-r. Give them the PQ & give them some taunts (preferably on bicheon ) and give bow skills aggro increase. Also the phy/mag def buff from sro-r. And just buff the CHN race with 15% more damage and 5% more def. That should've sealed the deal. Rather than gutting 1 race, to make the other race better.

+1
I suggested the same thing beofre, BEST option to balance CH & EU & especially make CH reliable in Partyz or teamplay in every ways is to give CH sro-r skills + some custom skills :
Force : holy spell, healing/mana orbit, phy/mag deff buff, party heal, party rez, stun debuff
Bicheon : Taunts + PQ
Heuksal : PQ + Taunts
Pacheon : PQ + Aggro

The CH global attack/def is kinda balanced imo. Rather focus on group & teamplay skills.

Update:

The server (Januera/Beta) will be back online in 2 hous (-/+1)

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Originally Posted by OutlawNL Yes I'm willing to bet a 6 man CHN squad with 2 buffing warriors will destroy an EU Pt. and I mean completely DESTROY them. I agree with this, and give that weird PQ skill to CHN. Leave EU uneditted (besides the black ress maybe that shit is bullshit) and focus on helping CHN, give them the holy spell thing from sro-r, give them healing orbit/mana orbit like on sro-r. Give them the PQ & give them some taunts (preferably on bicheon ) and give bow skills aggro increase. Also the phy/mag def buff from sro-r. And just buff the CHN race with 15% more damage and 5% more def. That should've sealed the deal. Rather than gutting 1 race, to make the other race better.

Interesting, you're welcome to try against an EU pt with 2 warriors, 1 cleric, 1-2 bard(s), 1 warlock and 2-3 wizards. First thing they do is bless, screen up and wipe out the two warriors with absolutes and then target the force sub builds with warlock disables and absolutes (assuming your pt has used bless as well). What's your move?

Based on the changes you just listed, you'd be happy with basically all the characters being immune to debuffing? Debuffing is not part of Silkroad? Who would even make a build that doesn't have immunity? Even 35% holy with 208 effect blocks every debuff that is applied via weapon skills. Axe resistance passive does the same thing. Even charity blocks a lot. Fire shield & force holy combined also block everything.

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Originally Posted by aliwood +1 I suggested the same thing beofre, BEST option to balance CH & EU & especially make CH reliable in Partyz or teamplay in every ways is to give CH sro-r skills + some custom skills : Force : healing/mana orbit, phy/mag deff buff, party heal, party rez, stun debuff Bicheon : Taunts + PQ Heuksal : PQ + Taunts Pacheon : PQ + Aggro The CH global attack/def is kinda balanced imo. Rather focus on group & teamplay skills.

That idea makes sense, actually quite alot, but then big wars like fortress war, job war, BA-Job would be ruined since EVERY single player would be running around with PQ's fighting for hours to kill the opponent group. Also, adding holy spell to CH as well wouldn't be a smart idea cuz then what does force/warlock stand for?

Our way, you will have to stay as cleric all the time to save your party/guild cuz battle's won't last too long, stay close to battle area with your bard/warrior char since surrounding area is lowered (Teamwork/preventing outsidebuffing/multiaccount-botting), overall defences/buffs are lowered so the custom fortress makes sense as construction HP's are highered etc.

This is how we ended up balancing EU/CH, it's all about considering every single situation in short & long term.

How about giving a try first? And yeah, you won't have som+7 100% stats items in Official Server also consider this while testing our skill balance in beta server.

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Originally Posted by NoMoreFun how i can download januera -.- wepsite notworking

It's working.

aha , working now