[REQUEST]vsro server files ^^

08/28/2011 01:01 Getzabelz#151
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Originally Posted by Colb View Post
I understand. It's the risk you take.


However, the issue with Joymax is not posession of the files. In the United States, I could walk up to Joymax office in California, and tell them I have server files. They couldn't sue me or arrest me. I'm a free man. I didn't hack Joymax.

If I open a server for private use that does not allow "donations" or Silk to be purchased, then Joymax COULD file charges against me for using their copyrighted material. However, if I had the time and money for a lawyer, it would get thrown out of court since:

A.) I did not perform any illegal actions in obtaining the files.
B.) I did not use the files for a profit.
C.) Silkroad is technically a free game, so the revenue loss is a guess AT BEST.

No lawyer could prove that I was a result in lost profit from Joymax, UNLESS I SELL SILK. That's where private servers are going wrong. If you host a COMPLETELY free private server (free silk, etc) then you should be okay. If Joymax DOES sue you, then you must fight it in court. You also have to remember, private servers are most likely against the ToS set by Joymax. But if I do not accept the ToS, then they have nothing that will uphold in court.

There are a LOT of grey areas in American law, and some of it also depends on the judge. Most business cases such as this come down to statistics, copyrights, revenue loss and damages, etc.
Glad to see I am not the only one here with brain, you are absolutely right, also adding that if you do not use any image or reference to silkroad or SRO all the sue to goldsold.pl would be done. They just could sue for copyright stuff which you can easily avoid by making clear you are not a silkroad official server and so and for theft or trade of illegal content
08/28/2011 01:02 Colb#152
Again, what's at stake is not the files. Joymax would get nothing from me if I had the files. But if I CHARGE people, then I will get sued.

This is why I want to get the server files. I live in the United States of America. I have rights as a citizen. Some other countries do not have the same rights. We have a judicial court system here that allows us a fair trial. I know my rights, and I know the law.

I already have a good job. I'm a manager. I don't need money from a game. I want to host a completely free SRO private server (free silk, free account) on our hosting hardware in Dallas. I used to use it for Counter-Strike, but nobody plays anymore, so I want to use it for SRO :)
08/28/2011 01:07 3lyka#153
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Originally Posted by Colb View Post
Again, what's at stake is not the files. Joymax would get nothing from me if I had the files. But if I CHARGE people, then I will get sued.

This is why I want to get the server files. I live in the United States of America. I have rights as a citizen. Some other countries do not have the same rights. We have a judicial court system here that allows us a fair trial. I know my rights, and I know the law.

I already have a good job. I'm a manager. I don't need money from a game. I want to host a completely free SRO private server (free silk, free account) on our hosting hardware in Dallas. I used to use it for Counter-Strike, but nobody plays anymore, so I want to use it for SRO :)
And maybe come day then you will start think .. Why I can't make money like zszc, esro..don't you think?
08/28/2011 01:09 Getzabelz#154
That's actually not a good idea, making a server of sro in USA is like being a little suicide
08/28/2011 01:14 [H2K] ^ LordyK#155
Quote:
Originally Posted by Colb View Post
I understand. It's the risk you take.


However, the issue with Joymax is not posession of the files. In the United States, I could walk up to Joymax office in California, and tell them I have server files. They couldn't sue me or arrest me. I'm a free man. I didn't hack Joymax.

If I open a server for private use that does not allow "donations" or Silk to be purchased, then Joymax COULD file charges against me for using their copyrighted material. However, if I had the time and money for a lawyer, it would get thrown out of court since:

A.) I did not perform any illegal actions in obtaining the files.
B.) I did not use the files for a profit.
C.) Silkroad is technically a free game, so the revenue loss is a guess AT BEST.

No lawyer could prove that I was a result in lost profit from Joymax, UNLESS I SELL SILK. That's where private servers are going wrong. If you host a COMPLETELY free private server (free silk, etc) then you should be okay. If Joymax DOES sue you, then you must fight it in court. You also have to remember, private servers are most likely against the ToS set by Joymax. But if I do not accept the ToS, then they have nothing that will uphold in court.

There are a LOT of grey areas in American law, and some of it also depends on the judge. Most business cases such as this come down to statistics, copyrights, revenue loss and damages, etc.
someone with brain here and is not like another fags who think they are god with these files -_- , I lol'd hardly how they think can make bilions with some files

get real , I know you guys feel better on internet , but don't forget you have school , you need to work for something in this life , choose an option and live for it , stop dreaming on bilions of dollars
08/28/2011 01:15 rushcrush#156
iam here in egypt i can do what ever i want lol
even if i opend sro server lol
no one can do anything
also like colb said make sro for fun(free silk.etc)
that's what i want too
my dedi server rdy anyway xD
sro will be bro of my jade dynasty server ^^
08/28/2011 01:19 Colb#157
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Originally Posted by 3lyka View Post
And maybe come day then you will start think .. Why I can't make money like zszc, esro..don't you think?
No. I make very good money at my manager position for a US mobile provider. I have a house completely paid off, etc. Money is not an issue for me. I'm not a teenager.

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Originally Posted by Getzabelz View Post
That's actually not a good idea, making a server of sro in USA is like being a little suicide
That doesn't even make sense. How is it suicidal? I know my rights and I know the law. I could not be prosecuted for hosting a completely free game, if done right.
08/28/2011 01:30 rushcrush#158
the true here is
they wont release them or give to someone cuz they will lose alot of money if they did
also if you just worry about jail.etc
give me the files and i will open it in egypt
iam not going to jail(joymax cant do any shit with me)
iam going make everyone dream
(iam sure you wont give me but atleast i tried)
08/28/2011 02:23 Kape7#159
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Originally Posted by rushcrush View Post
the true here is
they wont release them or give to someone cuz they will lose alot of money if they did
also if you just worry about jail.etc
give me the files and i will open it in egypt
iam not going to jail(joymax cant do any shit with me)
iam going make everyone dream
(iam sure you wont give me but atleast i tried)
Your text convinced me, I attach the serverfiles, please make my dream real!
08/28/2011 02:28 R0bbY LoLz#160
another Synx7 joke
08/28/2011 02:54 rushcrush#161
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Your text convinced me, I attach the serverfiles, please make my dream real!
nice joke
08/28/2011 06:14 Chernobyl*#162
Yes, King Li, and Getzabelz got the files, and it's a fact.
08/28/2011 07:36 megaman963#163
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Originally Posted by Chernobyl* View Post
Yes, King Li, and Getzabelz got the files, and it's a fact.
So what it is the next step after all these post ? ..

Of course there is no chance to release them ... So ... You wanna start opening another private server ... ? Or release them ?

In my opinion ... I dont care ... :) , I just want to play server with very high rates ... :D

Having nice day ...

:p Cheer
08/28/2011 08:39 KimYooShin#164
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Originally Posted by LegendM View Post
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