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03/04/2021 15:52 wojtek1002#136
when registration will be open? What time exactly do you open the server tomorrow

Registration only open on "Saturday 12:00 - 23:00" ??? :O
03/04/2021 16:48 norhan50#137
GL and waiting server

Ign : Pukky
03/04/2021 17:01 dj_h0se#138
IG Snake^^
03/04/2021 17:31 Gannicus*#139
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Originally Posted by hyjdla12 View Post
I understand what you're saying, however even that has its issues. Shields are not worthless, as you said, and everyone knows that. However, what I took into account is that you have to double farm for the cards to even get it, so you are already spending double the time to get your weapon, when two-hander users spend only 1 time that (let's assume it takes 25 runs to get the cards, shield users run it 50 times), then you have to pay double to get the shield upgraded. At this point, if you ran a 100% PvP for your build, you'd be better off going blade and scrapping the idea of shield nukers, and getting the shield as your first weapon, because you'd wanna be as annoying as possible, and the 1 additional block from Seal upgrade is huge for that. If you're wanting to deal more damage, you sacrifice your shield physical defense, which is also a downside.

So basically, a shield has pros and cons, the pros are additional block and magic defense, but cons are double farming time, double price, double upgrading (plus, % stats and blue), farming for the materials to upgrade your shield. That basically 1 pro and 4 cons (or 2 pros and 6 cons if you want to count everything separately), so why not just go a glaive build with cold and fire and have a ton of HP and quite fancy defense instead?

I've always loved shields because DA DEFENSE!, but I really rarely went with a shield build in a coin or Forgotten World system because it was just extremely unfair for shield users and I can have nearly the same performance with a glaive/spear build, I just trade a little defense for offense but still have Snow Shield if I'm a nuker.

Hope this server will make it better than it currently is. Unless the developers promise they'll change it, I'm not going to play a shield build probably at all, because I don't wanna spend double/triple the time to get on the level of a non-shield user. Hope the server will be a blast anyway.
I totally do understand where you're coming from, you're making sense and I can agree with you on almost everything you've said. The problem here is, there'd be another issue raised if we were to make obtaining shield easier, yes; you will get it easier as a Bicheon, but that means the other builds will also get it around the same time as you. If it's harder to obtain, nobody will bother to get it other than people who really need it. So, yes; going for a build that has dual wielding comes with its pros and cons, you need to spend more effort and time, but in the end you have the advantage and you get to reap what you sow. However, that doesn't mean your point is invalid, but it's just a matter of thinking about which option would be healthier for the server, rather than personal preferences, because we wouldn't really want to see the whole server with overpowered shields when it's not even included in their primary build.

Moreover, I would like to sincerely thank you for voicing your concerns, people like you are considered very healthy for the community and we'd be more than happy to have you on board!

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Originally Posted by wojtek1002 View Post
when registration will be open? What time exactly do you open the server tomorrow

Registration only open on "Saturday 12:00 - 23:00" ??? :O
Registration is going to be open shortly, wait for an announcement please.
The server will also launch on Friday at 20:00 (8:00 PM) GMT+2.
03/04/2021 18:48 hyjdla12#140
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Originally Posted by Gannicus* View Post
I totally do understand where you're coming from, you're making sense and I can agree with you on almost everything you've said. The problem here is, there'd be another issue raised if we were to make obtaining shield easier, yes; you will get it easier as a Bicheon, but that means the other builds will also get it around the same time as you. If it's harder to obtain, nobody will bother to get it other than people who really need it. So, yes; going for a build that has dual wielding comes with its pros and cons, you need to spend more effort and time, but in the end you have the advantage and you get to reap what you sow. However, that doesn't mean your point is invalid, but it's just a matter of thinking about which option would be healthier for the server, rather than personal preferences, because we wouldn't really want to see the whole server with overpowered shields when it's not even included in their primary build.

Moreover, I would like to sincerely thank you for voicing your concerns, people like you are considered very healthy for the community and we'd be more than happy to have you on board!
I personally think builds that don't need it shouldn't be a concern. I do understand the issue with it in certain situations, but that's mostly (or rather only) for PvP. The only issue with that would be when the non-shield player would be at low HP and needed some more defense or when they're knocked up, but you could as well add a function that prevents two-hander to shield swapping during PvP or full weapon swap block when knocked up. I only suggest that because it's some sort of cheating at this point, not literally cheating but more like cheesing. It's up to you, though, because I'm not a part of your team, but I'm pretty sure plenty of people would appreciate such change, where you can not swap weapons while stunned/knocked up, because it's extremely easy to cheese out the fight and even win.

Also, it's worth to mention that Silkroad is mostly a PvE game, and PvP is basically a niche mechanic, and you don't use shields to protect yourself from the monster, you just run away or cast a defensive skill right away, because there's always room for that (unless you're swarmed by a ton of monsters that each attack you with a different timer). Moreover, swapping to a shield doesn't make the strongest player on the server kill the unique faster :P

I believe there's always a way of optimizing a game, unless it's tight in the theme department and the game is heavily theme-dependent. SRO is not, and the ideas I provided (in this message) don't really interfere in any way with theme of the game and how the game feels. Some players, in fact, would appreciate blocking weapon swap in certain CC situations.

There are also ways to make PvP fair and balanced for literally everyone, introducing PvP gear that has certain stat values and having the full set enables PvP. This would mostly change PvP to be more skill-based rather than luck-based or whatever. You can also look at some servers that have players who love to PvP, but once the strongest player comes into the PvP area and opens their PvP, many people just quit and either afk in safe zones, go somewhere else or go do anything that is not PvP, because they know their gear is trash compared to the +12 all sun set guy (not saying this'll be the same on this server, but it might be somewhat similar at some point).

Anyway, I'm just barraging you with what I dislike in servers in general and what makes me quit quite often. Up to you if you think it's an issue or not. Still gonna join, unless there'll be an issue where you're using something that doesn't run on Linux and hence I'll be unable to join - plenty of servers that are Turkish use some sort of third party program (hack shield?) that "doesn't run on virtual machines" as the message says, so the game doesn't open (idk if this server is also Turkish or not, not even assuming anything because I don't really care as long as the server runs). Cheers.
03/04/2021 19:53 polmix93#141
okay maybe my english is not the best.
but can someone explain why we are talking about a shield ?

the br is 1 ? or what do they mean.

i mean i want to play a S/S nuker so its important for me to know thanks guys
03/04/2021 21:07 funkygrape#142
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Originally Posted by polmix93 View Post
okay maybe my english is not the best.
but can someone explain why we are talking about a shield ?

the br is 1 ? or what do they mean.

i mean i want to play a S/S nuker so its important for me to know thanks guys
The block rate is not 1, the block rate is normal.
The discussion had nothing to do with block-rate, so don't worry, you can play your S/S nuker in peace.
If you have any more questions? Feel free to ask, it will be my pleasure to provide you with answers.
03/04/2021 21:56 cebus1#143
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03/04/2021 22:34 JekaBlue#144
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03/04/2021 22:36 unbreakkk#145
Sig event, IGN: GOMBAO33
03/04/2021 22:48 Gannicus*#146
[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

Greetings, everyone!

Registration is now enabled and you can register for your Grand-Opening account now! We have come a long way together, but the story has just begun, we still have many moments to write together, so tell me; are you ready to play beyond?

MAKE SURE TO USE A DIFFERENT PASSWORD THAN ANY PREVIOUS SERVER TO AVOID THEFT!

Sincerely,
Pyrite Staff
03/04/2021 22:50 funkygrape#147
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Originally Posted by Gannicus* View Post

MAKE SURE TO USE A DIFFERENT PASSWORD THAN ANY PREVIOUS SERVER TO AVOID THEFT!
^this
03/04/2021 23:00 Gannicus*#148
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03/05/2021 01:48 abohegab120#149
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03/05/2021 01:50 rudolf1507#150
When does it open ? Servertime?