Hey leavemealone, let me start off by thanking you. Also you have alot of patience to deal with some of the moronic questions that ive seen on this topic. I read through this about 5 times to make sure nothing on this was covered, im getting the error at the line 317 when you hit enter to login, which is basically saying some type of value is set to null if im not mistaken, any idea what it could be? Im using the exact client version you said, checked my passes, checked the auth and account typed ive tried every possible combination 0,0 1,1 2,2 1,2 2,1 etc.... tried using the QO client patched with there patch to 4338 same exact error below is a screen shot, if you have any ideas thatd be cool. Thanks