Where do you see Silkroad in 2 years?

[elfuria]

graphics don't matter to me i still play super mario 64.

[Qynchou]

Originally Posted by elfuria

graphics don't matter to me i still play super mario 64.

yeah they do, up yo a certain extent

[PortalDark]

Originally Posted by elfuria

graphics don't matter to me i still play super mario 64.

I play RS07
Actual RS has better graphics, but gameplay is ****** up


at some point, many have mistake that good graphics means a awesome game
look at CoD
thye claim to be the best game ever yet others FPS with less graphics have more appeal toward the community
my point is that even without the graphics, if SRO manages to lure more ppl, there is no really a need to have good graphics(ofc, it there were to happen, noone is gonna complain)

[Haze*]

Originally Posted by PortalDark

I play RS07
Actual RS has better graphics, but gameplay is ****** up


at some point, many have mistake that good graphics means a awesome game
look at CoD
thye claim to be the best game ever yet others FPS with less graphics have more appeal toward the community

Now that's a wrong example. CoD has neither of these, amazing graphics or a good gameplay. The graphic engine they use is so **** old and it pretty much looks the same since COD4, only the requirements are changing so people think that they are "advancing".

[elfuria]

WOW and AION are good examples aion went f2p because it thought grinding & good graphics would make people want to play
aion is just another fail beautiful graphics korean grinder with unoriginal gameplay.

[WannaSun]

Ofc iSro will be dead and noone will know Joymax asap this happens.

[PortalDark]

Originally Posted by Haze*

Now that's a wrong example. CoD has neither of these, amazing graphics or a good gameplay. The graphic engine they use is so **** old and it pretty much looks the same since COD4, only the requirements are changing so people think that they are "advancing".

im not saying that they have recent graphics, im saying they claim to be good just because of them
im saying that many now complain that a game that is on low defnition is bad


of course, CoD doesnt have a realllllllllllllllllllllly good graphics, but for some reason the actual graphics is enough to lure players

[paxemuman]

Originally Posted by PortalDark

im not saying that they have recent graphics, im saying they claim to be good just because of them
im saying that many now complain that a game that is on low defnition is bad


of course, CoD doesnt have a realllllllllllllllllllllly good graphics, but for some reason the actual graphics is enough to lure players

Promotion and low expectations thats a reason. For the last 5 or more years there was not many really innovative games. With time peoples started expect less and less from games. Cod is popular only because of promotion not because it is a outstanding game.

[jM3]

More modern games don't really offer much more than SRO does, except a better interface. There was talk of making a custom SRO client that would run on just about any device (surely it could be done fairly easily in WebGL and run inside a browser, too), but there wasn't enough activity in the community to warrant it.

However, there are plenty of things that could be done to keep interest. For starters, a real emulator that's 100% complete and up to date with the latest real servers. Then there's good hosting, not the cheap kind everyone uses and claim it's so expensive they need to sell things in-game to pay for it (really, about 2% of my current salary, which is ~$200 a month, would be able to power a server running with 5000+ people, it's not that expensive, and donations, not sales, from just a few people would more than cover it).

With something like a fully capable emulator and a host that isn't terrible and flaky, you could start a community with events like what makes things like PoE and D2 great. How about ladders? Adjust rates to a reasonable level, kick up a server and give everyone some starting gear, but otherwise it's a race to see who can get to the highest level. How about hardcore servers where dying = permanent? How about private-private servers via the same simple channeling techniques used in modern servers, where you can literally have an entire area for yourself or your party (sans any event mobs and with lower drop rates, perhaps). How about hosting of your own servers and scripting access to invite friends to try out scripted events in a server you don't have to bother hosting? For instance, Tower Defense in SRO? How about a legit server with normal rates with no pay-to-win and randomly dropped silk? How about a PvP-only server?

How about all of this within a single shard and on the latest client so you don't have to download someone's patched client and hope they didn't include malware?

All of that is pretty simple with a real emulator. That's something this community could've had years ago, or could have now if instead of trying to constantly suffocate itself, shared information and stopped trying to make money in an unsustainable way with a crappy, incomplete, outdated project. It's not hard.

Give someone who can actually make that happen the information necessary and perhaps a community that rivals SRO circa the level 60 cap might be a possibility (what's that, a 60 cap server with chinese only, just for nostalgia?).

[Qynchou]

Originally Posted by jM3

More modern games don't really offer much more than SRO does, except a better interface. There was talk of making a custom SRO client that would run on just about any device (surely it could be done fairly easily in WebGL and run inside a browser, too), but there wasn't enough activity in the community to warrant it.

However, there are plenty of things that could be done to keep interest. For starters, a real emulator that's 100% complete and up to date with the latest real servers. Then there's good hosting, not the cheap kind everyone uses and claim it's so expensive they need to sell things in-game to pay for it (really, about 2% of my current salary, which is ~$200 a month, would be able to power a server running with 5000+ people, it's not that expensive, and donations, not sales, from just a few people would more than cover it).

With something like a fully capable emulator and a host that isn't terrible and flaky, you could start a community with events like what makes things like PoE and D2 great. How about ladders? Adjust rates to a reasonable level, kick up a server and give everyone some starting gear, but otherwise it's a race to see who can get to the highest level. How about hardcore servers where dying = permanent? How about private-private servers via the same simple channeling techniques used in modern servers, where you can literally have an entire area for yourself or your party (sans any event mobs and with lower drop rates, perhaps). How about hosting of your own servers and scripting access to invite friends to try out scripted events in a server you don't have to bother hosting? For instance, Tower Defense in SRO? How about a legit server with normal rates with no pay-to-win and randomly dropped silk? How about a PvP-only server?

How about all of this within a single shard and on the latest client so you don't have to download someone's patched client and hope they didn't include malware?

All of that is pretty simple with a real emulator. That's something this community could've had years ago, or could have now if instead of trying to constantly suffocate itself, shared information and stopped trying to make money in an unsustainable way with a crappy, incomplete, outdated project. It's not hard.

Give someone who can actually make that happen the information necessary and perhaps a community that rivals SRO circa the level 60 cap might be a possibility (what's that, a 60 cap server with chinese only, just for nostalgia?).

Most of the stuff you named doesnt need an emulator. And by the way, Venture is well on its way lol.

[jM3]

Originally Posted by Qynchou

Most of the stuff you named doesnt need an emulator. And by the way, Venture is well on its way lol.

Yes. Yes most of it would require an emulator.

And at this point, I don't think anyone is really going to get excited about yet another closed source emulator. Every single one has failed.

[Qynchou]

How about hardcore servers where dying = permanent?
How about hosting of your own servers and scripting access to invite friends to try out scripted events in a server you don't have to bother hosting? For instance, Tower Defense in SRO?

Not sure about those 2 but everything else is possible. The area thing without an emulator would be incredibly inefficient though

[jM3]

Originally Posted by Qynchou

Not sure about those 2 but everything else is possible. The area thing without an emulator would be incredibly inefficient though

Channeling can't be done without an emulator. We're talking about a server within a server, an instant and seamless channeling. No logging out, no starting a new server, etc.

The rest is implicitly on a latest-version unmodified client, which unless Joymax is selling the community latest releases or stopped making changes that aren't reflected only in the PK2 files, isn't possible without an emulator.

Anything done without an emulator would also be incredibly awkward because it wouldn't be seamlessly integrated with an administration front-end.

[JuliaRocks]

In my Recycle Bin

[paxemuman]

Originally Posted by jM3

Channeling can't be done without an emulator. We're talking about a server within a server, an instant and seamless channeling. No logging out, no starting a new server, etc.

The rest is implicitly on a latest-version unmodified client, which unless Joymax is selling the community latest releases or stopped making changes that aren't reflected only in the PK2 files, isn't possible without an emulator.

Anything done without an emulator would also be incredibly awkward because it wouldn't be seamlessly integrated with an administration front-end.

Instead of talking take your hands and start work on your own emulator, also share it completly open source not under agpl, or keep it closed source. If you dont have time to code stop spread **** on every other project(for example npcdomm one). Your expectations from home developers are unreal. Just make something which will work oke? more than character select screen if you want peoples to take you serious. Make one from things you talking about.