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[B]1x 48h Uploaded Code (Treasure) [S] 33 eGold

Also you can send a gift to an email address to create a gift link. Then you get an email with the gift link from steam. Whoever clicks on the link will get the game as a gift in his steam inventory. With this method you can put a gift link (which you have not activated yourself yet) in a treasure and sell it.
Another feature of gifts is, that you do not need steam trade rights to receive or send one.
--> To trade on steam you must have [URL = "https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php*******4020-ALZM-5519&l=german"] steam guard [/ URL] 15 days continuously activated. Only then a trade is possible. This means: With a newly created account you cannot trade until the 15 days have passed away. This countdown starts again, whenever your steam guard is disabled or for example because you have changed your password.


Put away setbacks
Sooner or later everybody will get scammed. It is nearly impossible to prevent this forever. But the risk can be decreased. Probably everyone, including the most experienced users got scammed at least by one time, too. But every one of them have learned their lesson from it and have gone ahead as well as set off the loss with other trades with a little luck.


Therefore, you should save all elitepvers.com private messages. This also should include your outgoing pms. To do so, click here on [URL = "http://www.elitepvpers.com/forum/profile.php?do=editoptions"] settings [/ URL] and under the item " If you send a private message, the forum can make a copy of the message in your sent items folder."


To see how much elite*gold of another user is currently blocked, can be seen by clicking on "The Black Market" on the profile of the user. It is positioned right over the reviews. The red number indicated how much of the elite*gold is currently locked, either by a sold treasure or an actived conflict.


A further, more frequent occurring reason for a mypsc account getting locked is, if too much money was used via your mypsc account during a short period. The limit amount is currently not known, but as soon as you pay more than around 100-150 euros a day on your mypsc account, it will automatically get blocked "for security reasons". In this case you can only try to get your balance payed on your bank account via customer support.


The rules for admissible video evidence are clearly regulated. Special rules like “video proof must include this and that” are not valid. If there is a corresponding video evidence the goods/elite*gold must be returned. Otherwise, the affected user has the right to give a negative rating (--> 4. Ratings).


Mai-Lin speaks in first person plural ("we") by herself. She does this, because in her moderative activities in the support section she always speaks on behalf of the whole elitepvpers.com team.

Mai-Lin is not only a walking rule book, but she is also de facto making rules on her own. If she makes a decision on a case for which there is no rule yet, she creates a precedent case. Should such a case occur again, it is very likely that she will decide like in the first case.



To make it clear: I talked with the relevant head of department at paypal who told me the following: "[I] Do not use paypal for such transactions [/ I] (meant is: selling virtual goods via elitepvpers.com)." Paypal is not intended for this use. If you do not use ebay for this, you have no securities.


How can I find what I am looking for?
It is easiest, if you open a thread titled "Searching XY" and have patience. In some cases, such as pscs, people will sign up quickly. Special games or something like that can take longer until someone replies. In such a case, be patient and push the thread regularly. It is forbidden to create multiple threads on the same topic. So do not do this, even if you are urgently looking for or want to sell something.
Another option is to use the forum search: [url] http://www.elitepvpers.com/forum/search.php [/ url]
Or scroll down in a similar thread and look for the "key words". By doing that, all other threads with the key words you have put in are displayed. [URL = http://epvpimg.com/EH4ce][IMG] http://i.epvpimg.com/EH4ce.png [/ IMG] [/ URL]



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How can I determine whether a user is trustworthy or not?

Basically you should not blindly trust anybody on the internet, which fortunately is not necessary because elitepvpers.com gives you certain facilities to protect you against fraud or make scammers publicly visible. But nevertheless it must be said, that it is always a risk to trade without elite*gold. Therefore, it is particularly important to assess the trade partner before such trades, which is not always so easy, because many grey areas exist..[LIST][*]How valuable is the account of the other user? If the account has many posts, reviews, etc. it is unlikely that this user will put the account on the line. On the other hand, it is easier than some may think to develop 100+ tbms. There are users, who invest 1-2 month of work on an account, just to fraud a number of people. This accounts then will recieve negatitve ratings or get banned, but the scammers have achieved their goal: 1-2 months effort, to earn some money by scamming people.
--> Reviews, posts are not always a "guarantee" that a user can be trusted. This perspective is of course with the number of reviews, posts. Because to develop 400 + reviews, is quite a huge effort.[*]Elite * gold is not a sign of seriousness. If a user is new and has a balance of several thousand elite*gold that is exactly the opposite, namely highly suspicious. The elite*gold can be spent within minutes after a trade by spending the elite*gold on regular trades like buying e.g. dozens of paysafecards. Such a high elite*gold level can be an illusion to give you a false sense of security.[*]Use the [URL = "http://www.elitepvpers.com/forum/search.php"]forum search [/ URL], look in the support area for threads about the user. If there are already some threads in which fraud has been accused of the user, be rather careful.[*]You can demand a passport copy or something similar from the user, but however there would be the question of whether you will receive the genuine or a stolen card and whether in the case of fraud you are willing to take this information to the police.[*]Collect information from the last trade partners of the users. Write them a message and ask, whether the user is legitimate or not. This should especially be done with those users, who traded via request a trade with him, because cheating with elite gold is relatively difficult compared to trading via a trade request.
Look at the users the person has traded with. If he only traded with people with rating of 0/0/0, this could be done by using multi accounts. On the other hand it is also irrelevant if the recent reviews come from people with 400+ reviews, they could have just bought treasures from these people. --> In this case this would be no sign if the user is trusted or not.[*]If you necessarily want to trade with a user who appears untrusted: Use elite*gold or a middleman (3.6. Middleman).[*]Friendships with many team members (moderators, administrators) from elitepvpers.com are not a sign of seriousness. They often accept pretty much every request of friend, even if they do not know the user, because they want to be friendly.[*]Ask yourself from where the user has the knowledge. Someone with 0 reviews, who sells 100 euro pscs is not very serious because, how can it be that he is so well familiar with elitepvpers, if he has 0 reviews? There are some users from this category: Very few reviews/posts but seem to know very much about The Black Market --> Probably a multi account. Such accounts have nothing to lose, possibly just created to scam 1-2 people fast before the account gets banned.[*]Where did the user's money/elite*gold come from? If the user has no shop selling thread etc, it is not understandable how the user makes his money. It may be that the user makes only small simple trades to push his ratings and the elite*gold is there only to fake false security/trust.[/ LIST]

To sum up: It is very difficult to assess an unknown user previously. Reviews are relative. One has 100 tbms pretty quickly. Of course, someone with 400 + tbms has more to lose, but often it happens that users with few tbms make great deals. Be very careful here! If the offer is too good, be suspicious. If the user seems to get tbms from nowhere: The user has no shop or has not done similar trades to this one – caution.

Have no fear to trade on elitepvpers.com. Most users are honest. However, as everywhere, there are people who take advantages of the system and deceive other users. The problem is not necessarily their number, but that these users are the most direct ones, promise wonderful things, peddle with the best prices. And inexperienced user therefore rather fall on them.


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Parcticular importance is attached on practice orientation. (Besonderer Wert wird auf Praxisbezogenheit gelegt )
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Old 05/20/2013, 17:37   #2 Trade Status: Unverified(?)

 
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bräuchte den account für maximal 3 std würde dir 10eGold geben
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Originally Posted by 3HARD~ View Post
bräuchte den account für maximal 3 std würde dir 10eGold geben
Ist leider ein 48 Code, den man nicht aufteilen kann sry.
Vllt hat ja wer noch Interesse.
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