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What do YOU want to learn?

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What do YOU want to learn?

Hey guys,

Im just wondering what you guys are wanting to learn about programming.

Im wanting to write a tutorial on something, I just dont know what people are interested in.

Some questions in which I would like you to answer if you are interested are:
  • What language would you like to learn?
  • Are you an adept programmer at the moment?
  • What are you interested in making, or learning?

Feel free to submit any other queries or questions.

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Old 04/07/2008, 04:38   #2
 
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hey i want to learn how to make a jump scatter record bot and that it can reapete it over and over
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Old 05/09/2008, 20:54   #3
 
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Hello,
best language would be German for me, but English is also fine.
I choosed/chose C# , I wanna learn how do my own stuff (not bots,macros,hacks etc).
Just normal little programms that help to make my day like programms to annoy some friends and stuff like that.
Im really intrested in this Stuff, but ive to say that Ive never tried it yet.
So I hope your Tutorial is going to be great .
Have fun & Good luck .
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Old 05/09/2008, 21:57   #4
 
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What language would you like to learn?
This is perhaps not the best question to ask someone who has no knowledge on the subject. It's really dependent on what you want to code. I think you need people to answer question 3 first, then you can advise them on programming languages which are suitable for the task. For example

Hooking/Trainer creation/Memory editing.
Reccomended languages: C, C++, Delphi, ASM.
Capable low level interaction with the OS, can use the Windows API directly and already have available libraries.
Other languages: VB, C#, Python etc. Are capable of calling Windows API functions, but not the best tool for the job.
Avoid: Java.
It's incapable of the above. (Well, can be done, but you'd be off your trolley if you decided it'd be a good idea to try)


Perhaps a good place to start while people decide what they want to learn is to teach concepts that are essential for gamehacking without regard for programming language. The conversion of decimal/hex/binary, integer types, endianness, boolean logic, data structures etc. Although just spilling it out in paragraphs ot text is a tried-and-failed method. Give a practical example in the form of a random/binary file which one can open up in a hex editor, and be asked to describe it's binary structure using a guide you've written. While you're at it, you could have the beginner programmers create an application that will take the same binary file and read it using their language of choice.
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Old 05/09/2008, 22:01   #5
 
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What language would you like to learn?
This is perhaps not the best question to ask someone who has no knowledge on the subject. It's really dependent on what you want to code. I think you need people to answer question 3 first, then you can advise them on programming languages which are suitable for the task.
I totally agree. But as to your second paragraph, I don't think people should start on stuff like C++ because it is difficult. Maybe start with something easier like C# or maybe even AutoIt. The capibility isn't always the whole thing.
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Old 05/09/2008, 22:30   #6
 
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i would want 2 learn everythin xD

just ur pole did not let us choose more than 1 =/

btw, only in grade 10, so im only learnin the basics in IT =/ we only get into the cool stuff later on
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i want to learn editing items into paw print
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i want to learn editing items into paw print
Cant u just use ANIedit by evan? :P

Now, as for learnin part, maybe learn ppl up in moore than 1 prog language?
i know its a lot of work but it would be cool :P
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I think he wants to accually figure out how to do it. He probably got his inspiration from Evan.
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I wanted to ask, where will you release the TuT? In the Conquer section or under Coding?
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Ive always wanted to learn a programming language. But I have always found online tutorials inadequate and frustrating in explaining the functions and nature of programming languages logically.

I don't want to JUST learn how to code, I want to learn how the language works, how the fundamentals work, and what purpose each little thing serves.

No tutorial has given me that so far. Im excited by your prospects though.
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I wanted to ask, where will you release the TuT? In the Conquer section or under Coding?
I think in the Conquer Coding section that may be released sometime soon. Check the Stickys for more details.
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Ive always wanted to learn a programming language. But I have always found online tutorials inadequate and frustrating in explaining the functions and nature of programming languages logically.

I don't want to JUST learn how to code, I want to learn how the language works, how the fundamentals work, and what purpose each little thing serves.

No tutorial has given me that so far. Im excited by your prospects though.
then learn asm
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I totally agree. But as to your second paragraph, I don't think people should start on stuff like C++ because it is difficult. Maybe start with something easier like C# or maybe even AutoIt. The capibility isn't always the whole thing.
I started with C++. Personally i feel that it is best to compliment your programming studies with theories. I do feel that if one wants to move on to do better in future, it's good to take up a powerful(difficulty doesnt matter) language.

For example, i can occasionally help friends with their vb codes even though i have never used it.

I am still a noob, still recapping a lot of the basics and trying to learn more.
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c++
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