Best class in ALL ??

[l PrettyBoy l]

Yo,

i was wondering what class is the best in PVE as well in PVP.

Sorc / Zerk / Scion / Swash?

Cheers.

[P!tch]

pve sorc ftw, everyone will agree

now pvp if totally different

mainly a sorc lvl 116+ doing 3K dots on u, scion has ubber def as from 111 too

but well if u wanna advice pvp, all your stuffs count too

i saw lvl 120 zerks 2 shotted, and lvl 100 zerk a pain in the *** to get it down

[raduelvis1]

scion/sumoner hits like a ....... machine gun

[Dagus0323]

I thought scions can still be stunned? (idk but if its true then they suck)

pve ofc sorc

pvp swash or zerk

[benzo11]

scion is uber machine after lv 104 pve + pvp
zerk is good for pve and also for pvp but have less dodge than scion
swash is good for pve and pvp but it have low ele res
sorc is good for pve and pvp but his resist and ele res is bad

so i advice you a scion

[csakizs]

OR

if u want challange, and dont want to be 1 of the hundreds of sorc, zerk, SWASH......




make a M.A.G.E

[Apnean]

Originally Posted by Dagus0323

I thought scions can still be stunned? (idk but if its true then they suck)

pve ofc sorc

pvp swash or zerk

Learn how to drive one properly then smelly bear.

Yes, they can be stunned, like lots of other chars, but they can tank at high levels too. I have been Feared/Frenzied/stunned often, but by toons who were then unable to finish the job before I came to and ate them.

How can the Fastest, potentially the hardest hitting char in the game suck?

You wanna stun me? You gotta catch me first
You wanna de-buff me? You gotta catch me
You wanna catch me? Sorry - you can not

Extreme movement speed is a valid Attack skill

[powerevenge]

go MAGE and pwned all

[wsv]

Originally Posted by Apnean

Extreme movement speed is a valid Attack skill

agree, but they often insult you a coward or runner

what max speed scion can get, more than ranger? i had over 300% on my ranger (only +1 skill up items for buffs, so it can be more)

[Dagus0323]

Originally Posted by Apnean

Learn how to drive one properly then smelly bear.

Yes, they can be stunned, like lots of other chars, but they can tank at high levels too. I have been Feared/Frenzied/stunned often, but by toons who were then unable to finish the job before I came to and ate them.

How can the Fastest, potentially the hardest hitting char in the game suck?

You wanna stun me? You gotta catch me first
You wanna de-buff me? You gotta catch me
You wanna catch me? Sorry - you can not

Extreme movement speed is a valid Attack skill

you're talking about 1v1 pvp
I dont do 1v1 pvp ever.

Its just not realistic.

when me and my group of at least 1 other person kill someone, they typically say "pff, come pvp me alone noob"
I then say "no. res."

the popular concepts of "fair" and "honorable" mean nothing to me =[

so in regard to your running away really fast stratagy, sure you can run from me, but can you run from 5 people all after you at once?
things become much different.

[Apnean]

Originally Posted by Dagus0323

you're talking about 1v1 pvp
I dont do 1v1 pvp ever.

Its just not realistic.

when me and my group of at least 1 other person kill someone, they typically say "pff, come pvp me alone noob"
I then say "no. res."

the popular concepts of "fair" and "honorable" mean nothing to me =[

so in regard to your running away really fast stratagy, sure you can run from me, but can you run from 5 people all after you at once?
things become much different.

Let me tell you a lil story:

Was in Seige one time (at band camp) and had about 7 or 9 dudes from 1 guild all chasing me around the grounds in front of that castle. I ran from 1 end to the other and strung them out like a string of pearls as they all had different running speeds.

I stopped and picked off the first 2 to arrive, took off again and looped aroud so fast that i ended up chasing up behind the slowest of that remaining string of attackers. I picked off 3 more before they realised that I was actually now chasing THEM

Again: in BG I was in a on-going battle with a very good Zerk and a hunter and a Mage. I did the same thing. I did battle a bit and got the feel of how strong they were and took off and waited till the first arived and picked him off, took off and repeat and rinse. Battle finished and won.

I repeated this scenario with those same 3 dudes afterwards, cause they wanted to kill me and the only way was to get near me which is hard if i got space to run. I made sure i fought them in open ground cause thats where i led them.

I can use the speed advantage to make a 3 or more on one into a multiple 1 on 1 and win. It's like any Aikido Master will tell you: Against multiple attackers, you take them on one at a time, and move so they get in each other's way, and You move in such a way so they must attack 1 at a time.

PS: My summoner has been stunned against multiple attackers many times and survived the stun to run and play.

In an enclosed room situation - yes, very different. I still think a good Summoner can Tank at high levels and I look foward to the day a Scion stamps.

BTW - The speed advantage works in reverse as well. I have had dude try to run FROM me once they realise they have no chance. Not gonna happen. 350+ MS is possible for a summoner at high level.

PS: Just checked a spreadsheet I did on the subject, and it seems Summoner can achieve 391 with the right gear/build. Hard though.

[babygirogio1]

whats your summoners name?

[benzo11]

Originally Posted by csakizs

OR

if u want challange, and dont want to be 1 of the hundreds of sorc, zerk, SWASH......




make a M.A.G.E

u mean hunter

[albertknob]

lol, of course you can run away from more than 5 people, My knight often had huge groups trying to catch it but they never did.

[Pélias]

Swash full buff ---> Impossible to kill
Scion make good dommage but tank nothing lol...